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message 1751: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (chibilee02) Oh that sucks Heather. Fortunately my shows have been good w/that. Some of my shows do that 2 hour season premiere so no chance of any cliffies.


message 1752: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Yes, I don't understand the reasoning behind cliff-hangers for the premier. I don't mind one thrown in somewhere in the season, but not right off the bat. I mean, we've been waiting all summer... now we have to wait again? Nah.


message 1753: by Sonya (last edited Sep 27, 2013 08:07AM) (new)

Sonya Heaney Melissa wrote: "There's been so much going on around here my reading time has been seriously impacted. I have a bunch of books stacked up that all look really good but I just can't seem to find the time for them..."

I know what you mean. This month - I didn’t know a person could have this much drama outside of a soap opera! In my family we’ve had death, intensive care, police dramas (edit: as in, I had to report a corrupt officer - no more police officer romances for me for ages!)… I keep picking up books and then thinking, “This probably isn’t an appropriate time to read…”

Phew. I swear, starting on the first of October, I’m going to read and read and read… Surely nothing else can go wrong this year. :(


message 1754: by Sonya (new)

Sonya Heaney Lisa Kay wrote: "I haven't been reading as much lately, either. I've been watching T.V. I found this series entitled Bunheads that I really enjoyed. Unfortunately, the series has been cancelled; however, the fir..."

Oh, I'd love to see that, but I bet it doesn't ever make it to Australia. I grew up in a professional ballet school, with a family who worked in the theatre. It sounds like my kind of show!


message 1755: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Good Gravy Beans, Sonya! What a month.


message 1756: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Wow Sonya, here is hoping October is much better!


message 1757: by B (last edited Oct 01, 2013 02:39PM) (new)

B (bhkreads) Hi everyone,

I am a Master's student in book publishing at NYU. I am in my final class and I am writing a business plan for a romance community website. If you could fill out this survey on what people would want to get out of this hypothetical website, then that would be great. The only requirement is that you have to be between the ages of 18-34.

[I got enough responses so I closed the survey. I'll keep you updated on my progress. Thanks for your help!]


message 1758: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Welcome to HEAC, Bintal! Liked your survey. Good Luck!


message 1759: by Melissa (new)

Melissa I am outside the age group for the survey. Interesting idea though.


message 1760: by B (new)

B (bhkreads) After sending out the survey, I think I need to change the age range of the target market I'm going for. I wanted to target a younger audience and get them interested in romance, but the biggest romance book buying segment is 30-54. So hmmmm...


message 1761: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) | 2010 comments I'm 41 and a romance reader and writer. AND I love surveys! So if you ever change your target audience, let me know.

I didn't know Bunheads was canceled! I loved that show! Sutton Foster is an amazing actress, and I love that they got dancers to act for the girls in the class instead of actors who dance. *sigh* Well, I watch too much TV anyway, right?

Sonya, October is almost over. How did it go?


message 1762: by Sonya (new)

Sonya Heaney Wow - I don't seem to have come back to this thread since my complaining a few weeks ago! Thanks for the sympathy! We still have to go up in court against the corrupt police officer, but I'm not thinking about that until I have to...

I just got back from a trip to the Gold Coast, and we're in the process of planning a month in Spain, so things are looking up! :)


message 1763: by Sonya (last edited Oct 28, 2013 02:36AM) (new)

Sonya Heaney Bintal wrote: "After sending out the survey, I think I need to change the age range of the target market I'm going for. I wanted to target a younger audience and get them interested in romance, but the biggest ro..."

I do think things are changing. No matter how little I think of certain recent blockbuster Young Adult and New Adult books, they have drawn a much younger readership to the romance genre.
I've been seeing teens and people in their early twenties recommending regular romance books as 'New Adult', so I think they're starting to branch out into other subgenres.

(Edited to add that it annoys me so much that *everything* is suddenly being classed as 'New Adult'... I've seen books with thirty-somethings being classed in the genre. So stupid!)


message 1764: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments I love Spain! I was stationed there while in the Navy and it is a beautiful country with beautiful people!


message 1765: by Sonya (new)

Sonya Heaney Not a bad place to be stationed. :) Very good food, too.
I spent quite a lot of time there in 2007. I declared I was going to rent an apartment in Seville and stay there for weeks and weeks and weeks and weeks, and as soon as I finished up a work contract, that's exactly what I did!


message 1766: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments How fun! Seville is wonderful.


message 1767: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) | 2010 comments That sounds really nice.


message 1768: by Heather L (new)

Heather L  (wordtrix) Sonya Heaney wrote: "Edited to add that it annoys me so much that *everything* is suddenly being classed as 'New Adult'... I've seen books with thirty-somethings being classed in the genre. So stupid!)"

Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't get this "new" classification. :-\


message 1769: by Sonya (new)

Sonya Heaney Heather L wrote: "Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't get this "new" classification. :-\"

I can see why people who wanted to make money started marketing this 'brand new' genre. But I'm being offered review copies of 'New Adult' books about career women in their mid to late twenties, and it's just ridiculous. Careers and marriage and babies - that's not YA or even NA (which is supposed to focus on university-age characters)!

I'm also seeing historical romance - pretty much all of it - being listed as 'New Adult'. What nonsense.

I hope it's just a fad, because I want it gone!


message 1770: by Rachel Annie (new)

Rachel Annie (snapdragoness) The New Adult genre and its obligatory angst doesn't appeal to me... I'm not a YA fan either.

I'm difficult, I suppose!


message 1771: by Giulia (new)

Giulia | 1756 comments Isn't NA supposed to appeal to women 18-30 something-ish? Maybe that's why the characters are older. Personally, for me doesn't fit the criteria of NA, but might be some author's reasoning. Or perhaps the publisher's,depending.


message 1772: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) | 2010 comments My editor says for her and NA, the angstier the better. I'm not really find of angst.


message 1773: by Giulia (new)

Giulia | 1756 comments It has to be purposeful. It has to fit the story, the situation. You can't just add in angst for the sake of angst. Readers will know the difference.

Abigail, that's directed at your editor, who I'm sure is very nice, and not you :)


message 1774: by Sonya (new)

Sonya Heaney Bitten Jewels wrote: "Isn't NA supposed to appeal to women 18-30 something-ish? Maybe that's why the characters are older. Personally, for me doesn't fit the criteria of NA, but might be some author's reasoning. Or perh..."

New Adult is supposed to be the 'bridging' genre between high school and adulthood. It's supposed to focus on university-age people.

Most romance heroines are in their twenties and thirties, and suddenly the NA genre has claimed 98% of romance as NA. It's ridiculous. And - as a woman in my early thirties - I'm incredibly insulted to be lumped in with a bunch of children! I have friends with kids in who have gone through puberty! I'm no teenager.

I simply don't see the purpose of the genre. Once upon a time, after you outgrew YA, you moved on and read adult fiction. What's with this delayed adolescence that now apparently takes you almost to your forties...


message 1775: by Sonya (new)

Sonya Heaney I lifted this New Adult description from the Harlequin website:

It is a genre that fills the gap between YA and contemporary romance. NA stories revolve around college-age characters.


message 1776: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) | 2010 comments Hehheh - delayed adolescence. This should be targeted toward men. *grin*


message 1777: by Giulia (new)

Giulia | 1756 comments I get the purpose of the genre, but no, the characters should not be in their 30s. I read YA and I'm in my 30s. I read romance too. So the classification doesn't bug me so much, though I see what you are saying. I guess the thing is, the characters should be 18-23ish and no older. And band wagon jumping is never cool--if it's not NA, don't call it that.


message 1778: by Heather L (new)

Heather L  (wordtrix) Sonya Heaney wrote: "I lifted this New Adult description from the Harlequin website:

It is a genre that fills the gap between YA and contemporary romance. NA stories revolve around college-age characters."


Well. People do go back to college in their 50s or even later... :D


message 1779: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments caught a bug. Not feeling up to being here. I hope to feel better soon. See you all tomorrow hopefully.


message 1780: by Heather L (new)

Heather L  (wordtrix) Aw, drink some OJ, get some rest and hopefully you'll feel better tomorrow!


Lisa - (Aussie Girl) | 13013 comments Take it easy Pamela and feel better soon.


message 1782: by Rachel Annie (new)

Rachel Annie (snapdragoness) Pamela(AllHoney) wrote: "caught a bug. Not feeling up to being here. I hope to feel better soon. See you all tomorrow hopefully."

Feel better, Pamela!


message 1783: by Giulia (new)

Giulia | 1756 comments Feel better Pam!


message 1784: by Abigail (new)

Abigail Sharpe (abigailsharpe) | 2010 comments Sending chicken soup thoughts your way.


message 1785: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments Thanks all. Fever broke last night and I'm confident I'll be good as new soon.


message 1786: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Glad you're back with us, Pamela! Poor baby.


message 1787: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments well, I think that was premature. Still fighting this thing. Ran fever over 100, cough, headache, chills, etc. Probably that virus my daughter had :( But I'm going to be okay.


message 1788: by Leslie (new)

Leslie (chibilee02) Hope you recover soon Pamela. Being sick just sucks!


message 1789: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Ugh.


message 1790: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments Feeling good in the mornings but in the afternoon I feel sick again. :( But I WILL beat this thing.


message 1791: by Melissa (new)

Melissa Pamela be sure to take a few days to rest, even if you do feel good in the morning.


message 1792: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments I think that is a sign you need an afternoon nap!


message 1793: by Giulia (new)

Giulia | 1756 comments Feel better Pam! I was sick a couple of weeks again and it was awful! The good thing is, you will feel like a human being again very soon.


message 1794: by Sophia (new)

Sophia Renny (sophiarenny) | 12 comments All About Romance has released their Top 100 Romances of All Time list. What do you think?
http://www.likesbooks.com/top1002013r...


message 1795: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments going to check it out. Thanks, Sophia!


message 1796: by UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish, Naughty Co-Mod (new)

UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish | 1922 comments I always enjoy perusing that list. Thanks, Sophia!


message 1797: by Pamela(AllHoney), Fairy Godmother (new)

Pamela(AllHoney) (pamelap) | 14528 comments Actually a bit disappointed in the list. There were many of my favorites but also a few that just didn't work for me. But people have different taste so I guess the majority that voted felt those books worthy so...


message 1798: by UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish, Naughty Co-Mod (new)

UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish | 1922 comments Off to check...


message 1799: by UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish, Naughty Co-Mod (new)

UniquelyMoi ~ BlithelyBookish | 1922 comments Interesting. Of the ones I've read, I enjoyed. Many are there that I want to read soon.glad Flowers from the Storm was in the top 10.


message 1800: by Lisa Kay, Tinker Bell (new)

Lisa Kay (lisakayalicemaria) | 21897 comments Very interesting! Thanks, Sophia!


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