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Layer Wood +other NL locations
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Layer Wood Map
Thank you Sylvia - I am now off to do some searching. Cup of tea, bread and grease and I'm set !
Just had a thought- would it be useful for us to search one or a few books each , so as not to overlap/miss things? I have just got the Suffolk Trilogy out, ( Knights Acre, Homecoming, Lonely Furrow) so I am doing them at the present. I thought I'd do Madselin too, unless anyone else is or wants to .
The doctors of the world will be uniting against our encouragement of "greasy bread"! I also had to LOL (would you believe I had to find out what that meant?) when you mentioned a Texan believing that Texas is bigger than Australia! They think they are bigger than Alaska, too! Right, Rita? Isn't there another Texan in this group?I am a little bit concerned about several readers searching the same book, only because this site might get too long to handle. Maybe if everyone would state here at the beginning which book they are searching, others could start working on another one. If we then cover all the titles involved in the Layer Wood area, then any other readers could pick one for double checking and only post those that seem to be discrepancies. How does that sound?
So for now we have The Town House, The House at Old Vine, The House at Sunset, Knight's Acre, The Homecoming, and The Lonely Furrow covered. Why don't I offer Afternoon of an Autocrat and you offer Madselin to other readers and see if anyone claims them for the study? Bless This House should be done, too. Can anyone think of other must do titles? I guess whoever names one first can claim it if they want it.
I don't think we necessarily have to put every house and stable on this map, but only the important sites that figure in with the main plots and family trees.
I hope this will be fun and none of us ends up in Bedlam! Thanks Barbara, and all you other cartography researchers!
Hi Sylvia, Yes, that what I meant, each person searching a different book, - sorry I put it confusingly.What about Wayside Tavern - I can't remember if that has location detail but it is the earliest setting isn't it ? So if it has any it might be useful.
I think it is the earliest, but I haven'[t read many of the books for so long, I couldn't name which ones are involved in our area of interest. If nobody volunteers to study Wayside Tavern, maybe we can look on its thread and see who was most into it.Another thing we should attempt to do is cover every location mentioned in Mary's poem like Ockley, Nettleton, etc. if the locations are detailed enough.
I am trying to remember whether it was Layer Wood in Jassy, that Dilys went into, I can't remember. I can either do Jassy (if Layer is there) or Bless This House.
What do you think? Let me know.
Susan
In one book, and I cannot remember which, Layer is described as being akin to a hand, with a parish/village/hamlet or whatever lying at the end of each of the five fingers .The Knight's Acre Trilogy mentions many places - Cressacre, Moyidan, Bywater, Baildon, and of course Intake, which is where Knights Acre is, being origially intake land from Layer Wood. I'm noting them all , plus anything that talks of how long and in what direction it takes to get to and from them.
I can't remember if the wood in Jassy is Layer , but prob it is ( actually, I can't say that I really looked to see if the the wood in Knight's was Layer , goodness, I msut check!
I think it would be be good if you did either or both Jassy and Bless This House, Susan, and yes, lets take Sylvia's suggestion that at we make sure to cover Mary's poem places.
I was thinking too, that we prob will find that NL wasn't perfect in her geography or consistent every time, after all they were novels!
You've probably already done this, but I started skimming Jassy and Bless This House, and both mention Layer Wood early on. I've also pulled out about 10 other titles to skim which may be in the area. I'll report what I find.Knight's Acre is definitely bordering on Layer Wood, and I believe its other border is the Wren River. I have the idea that it is fairly close to Bywater where possibly the river empties out. The 5 finger description sounds very familiar to me, too. Is "Intake" the name of the Knight's acreage or are all properties that border on the woods called intake if trees were cleared out?
Personally, I was picturing this project as a months long endeavor, so I hope none of you are feeling pressured to hurry and finish your research. With that "tiny print and yellowed pages" it will probably take me a month to finish the House Trilogy.
Goodo about Layer and Knights - there is a chapter where Sir Godfrey is making his will and he says that Knights Acres fields and Intake are not quite the same thing, though both are owned by him. I have noted the Wren river ref.too, and the distance to Bywater etc.Yep, no way this will all be done in a month - certainly no probs to me , it's a labour of love, tiny font and yellowed pages notwithstanding . ( I do love the word 'notwithstanding' , so silly yet and so useful. I like texting the word 'indeed ' too, isn't it nice how litle things amuse one as one ages ..)
Hi Peggy Some of us remember that ref to the hand/glove ( or something like it) , see a couple of posts above . Can't remember provenance tho , dammit
Great , thank you, I will. I think between us all we will be able to give Sylvia enough to make a great map don't you? Such a good idea.
Peggy's find in Nethergate is very fortunate. The description is on page 13 in my copy (pb). I will probably resketch this map a hundred times before we are finished with it, but I went ahead and drew six fingers for the shape of Layer Wood. Until we find out where Intake is (a little village of 8 cottages by Knight's Acre I believe), I am positioning it between the river and a hollowed out area of woods in the "wrist" area. Later we may decide that it is between two of the fingers. Do any of you remember if the three Minshams mentioned in Nethergate were churches? (St. Mary's, St. Faith's, and All Saints) or were they also villages? Either way, most likely they are spread out from each other.
Although I don't remember any details on the published map, I picture it as oblong and spread across the two pages of the inside front cover.
Great work, NL devotees!
Intake lay 'shaped like a dish, embraced on one side by river Wren and on three by Layer wood" (p. 7-8) And it "lies at the end of a lane that led nowhere" (P 159). Knight's Acre at Intake is described as a place that was "was well away from the river, a space between the edge of the village common and the fringe of the wood" (P8)
The site for the KA house is "almost in the centre of the site, Layer Wood's last outpost" ( p9)
When Walter brings Sybilla and the children from Beauclaire to KA , he takes a road that eventually leads to Moyidan and the port of Bywater ( [p27)
Sir Simon Randall rides from Bury St Edmunds to Baildon (p147) It doesn't say how long that takes, but he stays overnight at Baildon and is at KA by midday the next day. He is young and strong and a very experienced horseman, so if he set out at say 7am and got there 5 hours later , Baildon must be, say, 40 miles or more away from Intake ?
Colchester must be somewhere near because the marauders who came to KA, did so on the mistaken idea that the lane was a short cut to Colchester (p159)
More soon
OK, I will do Jassy and Bless This House, but it will take a while, as we all have said. I will have to look for Mary's poem. I know I read it, and thought I put it in my NL folder, but can't find it!
Better go and get on with answering my mail! We will catch up on here from our various locations!
Take care of yourselves ladies!
I absolutely remember seeing the map published on the inside of one of her books - but which one!! I don't have it in any of mine but I'll keep looking.
Just found this on the web. A bit more information about NL and places etc. (mentions Layer Wood!)http://www.funtrivia.com/en/Literatur...
How fun, Susan! The modern day looks more like a mitten than a 6 fingered glove, though. The location is not too far off from Norfolk/Suffolk.
Susan, I found Mary's poem at the end of the very first thread I read, and you had written there, too. If I find which one, I'll let you know. Or I can type it out here, or I can give you all the locations she mentions.Sallie, I'm so glad you saw the map, too! Do you think you had checked the book out of a library? Maybe I can write to the first publisher of the Town House books and ask if they have a copy of the map.
Barbara - Wow! You've really got it together. I have great hopes that eventually, with all the hints from the different stories, the distances and positions will come clear. The Knight's Acre house, being the "last outpost" and surrounded by the woods on three sides and the river on the other makes me picture it on the far end of Layer Wood, but because it seemed to be near the port of Bywater, I then see it as the farthest on the other end! Being a saucer shaped site, maybe it was deep into one of the fingers and nobody had started a trail through the woods. Where do you picture it? And wasn't the village of maybe 8 rental cottagews within site of the big house, and wasn't it called Intake?
Sorry to be a whiner, but occasionally my good leg sets up with a stabbing pain I call my "hot poker pain" and I will have it for one or two days. It is on me now, so I might not be on here for a while. I always think about the NL people who suffer with gout.
Susan, I found Mary's poem at the other site dated 1-9-09, but it is no longer posted. I had copied her message so I could type it out on pretty paper. Now I'm wondering if I have the right to reproduce it here for you? Mary, are you there, and would you write out your poem here for Susan, or give me permission to do it? We want to be sure and include every place on the map that you included in your poem. You did say you got it copyrighted, didn't you?By the way, going through all the old messages over there, we've lost a lot of people!
I am fairly new and I don't know about your poem, Mary. Sylvia, I hope your leg pain is relieved soon. I may have seen the Layer map in a library book but I have tried to collect all of NL's work. There is a missing box of NL books that has yet to be unpacked - well, GEE, we've only been here 5 years! so maybe it is there. I tried not to lend her books out ever since someone borrowed my signed copy of Little Wax Doll years ago and never returned it. A sad lesson learned.
Mary posts ( or used to ) on a site called Allreaders. I do too, and so does Susan .The discussion is very good but it is a clunky, difficult-to-use site compared to ths one. A couple of us begged Mary to come here but she preferred not to , so if you want to talk to her, it will have to be Allreaders I fear.I wonder who "Agony"is, who posts the excellent NL quizzes mentioned before. Could it be one of us , I wonder, or Mary ........
I missed a bit in my earlier post"Intake was rather less than 5 miles from the family manor at Moyidan (p7)...it was snatched from ...the forest.Intake now consisted of 8 small enclosed farms"(p8)
NL talks in the next few sentences of a village, and a village common/green, but I can't quite work our how these relate to the aformentioned farms. Maybe the farm labourer's little houses and a cobbler and such and the church and the priest's house and church make it up?
These latter are the subject of later doings so I;ll wait till I get there to see if there are more location details
I am in agony, but I am not the Agony of the quizzes. Somebody else - 'fess up! I guess I will break down and visit that other place again just to say Hi to Mary.Sallie, that is agony, too, not getting your autographed copy back. I only lend out duplicates now.
Sylvia LOL to your 'agony' posts.... but not the real stabby agony of course, to which I wholly relate ( Pratt's hands in Nethergate are mine....)
PS I secretly suspect Mary
A person has to have the constitution of Superman / Woman to survive the pains of the senior years! Are the questions you're talking about from Agony on the Neverending Quiz? If so, then Mary did come over to this forum, right?I hope your hands don't keep you up. NL is great company through the long nights.
Is Agony on the Neverending quiz too? I hadn;t realised, I thought she was just on the quiz link I put in earlier . Most of the NL qus' on Neverending are me, ( though I'm not Agony) or Canary Alice also of these boards.
Painkillers OK at present for hands and feet and I seeing a rheumatologist next month (for the first time, . Probably should have done it earlier I guess. Ah well)
I hope your agony has abated a bit. Wasn't some child prodigy supposed to have said, when asked about an accident or illness , "Thank you Madam, the agony is abating somewhat"
I will wait and see if Mary's poem comes up. I thought I had saved it, but Senior Moments come thick and fast! I do hope that your good leg feels better soon Sylvia, and you too Barbara with your pains. I know what you mean about getting older! I have osteo arthritis and osteophorosis, but keep going, 'cos we have to! I started on Bless This House last night, and I had hardly got to the 2nd page and I was writing things down! It is mind boggling! But we will do it between.
So ladies, keep warm and look after your aches and pains and at least we have NL and her wonderful writings to take our minds off it all!
Thank you Susan.. Mind you, I am one person who doesn't need to have to try to keep warm, it is pretty much 38 and 39 C every day just lately. And humid , which is rare for Adelaide.
So you girls keep warm, meanwhile I sit here in singlet and shorts ( not a pretty sight)
Just trying to picture you in singlet and shorts! (I don't wear shorts these days! I do wear singlets though, summer and winter, because I get really bad hot flushes (flashes in US?) My husband is on blood thinners, so he is freezing and I am often outside when it is snowing so I can get cool! (I am sure the neighbours think I am mad - well actually, they know I am!)
You folks just keep me laughing and keep the agonies away! Leg is better, but I honestly think I have a touch of pneumonia. But am not complaining. I just read Mary's post on that other site and she is up to her shoulders in snow! What is a singlet? A tee shirt maybe? Here's another food question? What is a kidney pudding? I get the impression that pudding in England is a gravy. Kidney pudding was mentioned in Day of the Butterfly. Just finished it - my first reading of it. Now on to my Town House research.Some of you mentioned how your old books, especially PBs, are falling apart. If they're not too far gone, I've bound mine in opaque Contac plastic. It really holds the cover on well, but of course the pages may still all fall out! It is important that after you cut out the plastic about an inch beyond front side and back side, that you get one cover smoothed out and then turn the book up while you seal in any creases on the spine before smoothing out the other cover (folding the excess inches inside the covers).
Susan, I suggested to Mary that she post her poem in the Miscellaneous section. She also mentioned that someone from Wheeling arranged for a newsletter to come to her from Goodreads. Anybody know who might be from Wheeling? I grew up just 20 miles from there. Anyway, it is good to have Mary on board here.
Sylvia, Barbara, anyone else who asked me to post this poem here, thank you! I'm touched that someone would want to see it again.The lights are out in Baildon. Every street
From Saltgate to the Abbey ruins lies
Empty and dark. No tread of moving feet
Is heard in Market Square, no words, no cries
From children at the Grammar School, no voice.
The lanes are still about the countryside.
Fennels at Ockley, Hattons at Mortiboys
Are gone, and brambles choke the Lady’s Ride.
The books are closed in Turnbull’s law chamber.
Cobwebs hang thick upon the shuttered door
Of th’ Hawk in Hand, and down at Bywater
The ships lie beached along the silting shore.
The bell has tolled its last for Martin Reed
At Flaxham Church. The last Tom Thoroughgood
Has bred at Nettleton his last gold steed.
Silence has fallen over Layer Wood.
copyrght 2009, Mary Crawford Clawsey
Thanks Mary, for writing out your poem again. I believe it was Susan who lives in Scotland, who asked for it most lately. As I read it again just now, I experienced a kind of parallel vision, of all those places that have meant so much to all of us, and at the same time, a vision of my own life struggles and how Norah Lofts kept me company and allowed me to escape into her incredible world. I have thanked the Lord many times for leading me there when I was 12, and now I am thanking him often for leading me to all of you.
Sylvia , here is a link to a picture of a singlet. It is not me wearing it, in the unlikely event that anyone thought it might be..........http://img.alibaba.com/photo/27461514...
In the UK I would have called it a vest, but here in Oz it is called a singlet, and a vest would be what I call a waistcoat so I have got used to the Austalian version.
Kidney pudding , or more usually steak and kidney pudding is a savoury dish, traditionally long cooked in a covered bowl, using suet crust pastry.Inside is beef and kidny and onions and spices. It is very tasty and full of rich gravy and probably very bad for us .
Mary thanks so much for the poem again. Such a touching elegy.............
Hello everyone! greetings from Bonnie Scotland! Thanks for the picture, and yes, that is what I wear, and we call them either T shirts, or can be tank tops! (every different names all over the world!)Oh Mary, thank you for putting your poem on here, it is great and evokes sadness also, because I can see it all happening in my mind's eye! I too love to write poetry and stories and have had some published, also I read my Christmas and Easter stories and poems to our Women's Guild group, and also in our Church.
I, like you Sylvia have thanked the Lord for leading me to dear Norah Lofts! I had a bad breakdown back in the 70s after I had my daughter and many gyneological problems, and had to go into hospital, and when I was very low, I could not concentrate and was trying hard to get back to normal (whatever that is!) :-) and I found NLs wonderful books, and they have kept me going through bad times and good over the years.
I think it is great that we have all met up on here, and have such a lot in common, apart from our love of our dear NLs books.
Just think! We can link up all over the world! Whatever did we do before computers??
(My husband loves steak and kidney pudding, but I am a veggie so that to me is a no, no!
I hope that you get some relief soon Sylvia, and keep your chin up!
(My copy of Bless This House, is now full of scribblings and notes about our map, so hopefully, with all of us working on it, we should succeed.
I have drawn compass points and have made a little headway. Merravay faces South, and Layer Wood is just beyond the garden ( Also Merravay is between Slipwell and Nettleton - but which side of Merravay does each one lay?)
Just want all of you to know that I am writing down every description as you find them in your research and already have a fairly extensive map going, though still all guesswork. Eventually we will run across some solid info that will give us our bearings. I keep picturing us laboring away until 2012 and then the real map will turn up! But I sure hope so. It will be great fun to see how accurate we were.Personally, I love hearing all about you, your own struggles, your families and homes, health, your interests. Our mutual love for NL makes us a unique group, I think. I wonder how many other authors have devotees like us? Maybe for Tolkien, Stephen King, and Shakespeare!
P.S. Thanks for posting that picture of a singlet. In the U.S. we call those tank tops. Also thanks for the info on the kidney (and steak) pudding. So that pudding is a gravy. Are the chocolate and butterscotch etc. desserts also called puddings? I had to get out the dictionary to look up suet. "Fat on the kidneys" was one def. and it is from an "Anglo-Norman Middle English word"! Kidney meat doesn't sound very tasty to this hamburger habituee, but then, oh my, what people eat here - brains, pig's feet, etc! The great comedian, Bill Cosby, says he goes all over the world, and people put before him stuff like brains and "sweet breads" (isn't that male parts?) rolling around on the plate, and he tells them "just bring me a pancake"!
I think "sweetbreads" are pancreases. What you're thinking of, Sylvia, are called "mountain oysters." Yes, I think there are times when it's best to be a vegetarian for the moment!
Mountain oysters!! LOL ! Gravy to me is the liquid part Sylvia, like a thin brown sauce. Do you say "a gravy' meaning a particular type of dish?
I think suet is pretty much a thing of the past- what do you all think ?
I used to eat kidney and things when I was young and didn't really think about where they came from, I think most of us did when times were harder than they are now, especially in post WW2 UK and Europe.
Coudln't handle any of it now, in fact if I think about it too hard I can't eat meat at all!
I was just thinking about posts on Goodreads and I remembered one from Mary which commented that The Devil in Clevely ( Afternoon of An Autocrat )had location descriptions in it.So below is the result of my researches this afternoon . Sorry if I;ve doubled up, I forgot who was doing what and I got a bit caried away! I think the Roman Rd refs might be really useful
Sir Charles is at his manor gates, looking down the road.
The Shelmadine manor , stands “at the lowest point of the village ( of Cleveley) just where the main rd and ...Lower Rd and the river ran together, ahead the land sloped upwards...to the common pasture..two common fields and ...Layer Wood, which stretched all the way to Nettleton. To the left ...the main rd which ran straight up the slope , past the church and the Rectory and the inn and the main part of the village until it turned at the Stone Bridge and disappeared over the Waste “ (p10)
Sir Charles rides left through the village, past the Rectory, the church and churchyard, then the inn, then the forge. The forge is “at the corner where Berry Lane led to Flocky Hall Farm” (p10) Fuller’s (110 acres) farm is also on this lane, before Flocky Hall. Flocky Hall is 305 acres, all fenced. Other contiguous(?) farms are Bridge Farm, 210 acres, and Wood Farm, 320 acres.
At the other side of the Stone Bridge is the Dower House. Just past it, “the highway made a boundary between Cleveley and the neighbouring parish of Minsham all Saints...On the right hand side (of the highway) lay Cleveley Waste..a vast open space of common land..(with)little patches of garden and orchard..and hovels on the edge nearest the highway “ ( p18)
“The Waste ended in ...The Dyke, ruler-straight between the river bank and the ride which ran through Layer Wood. The Rector ..believed it to be part of the Roman Rd which ran direct between Colchester and the sea ” (p27)
Between the end of The Dyke and the opening of the ride into Layer Wood Sir Charles looked out over two open fields , the one nearest Layer Wood was called Layer Field and the other , slightly larger, was called Old Tom .
Barbara, you found some great information, some order to the locations. I need to redraw my first map, and need bigger paper! I have this vague picture in my mind of that original map and don't remember bridges and churches, though they may have been there, but I am picturing a light green ink sketch with fluffy green tree outlines through Layer Wood. Even if the orig. map turns up, we may have a lot of extra locations to add to it for our own copies! Did you all catch Werner's message on Misc.? He may be able to track down a map copy, but needs to know what editions everybody has of the Layer Wood area books so he won't have to list those. But if you can tell that your book is rebound, a map may have been removed. I am working on a list of Layer Wood titles if you want to wait until I get those listed on the map thread. But I will need for you to check it and see if I missed any. I know I will. I still have quite a few NLs I don't believe I've ever read.
People eat pancreases? I can't think about it either or eat anything that looks like what it is. The only fish I eat is highly breaded from Long John Silver's! I have a hunch that if we had to kill and dress our own meat, a lot more of us would be vegetarians. Have you ever thought about the Genesis account of the patriarchal age when men lived to almost a thousand? (the age of the women is not mentioned) When Noah came off of the ark, the fear of man was put into the animals and they were then used for food. When people began to eat meat, their lifetimes were drastically reduced! I think Noah lived to about 500, then Abraham lived to 120, and by the New Testament, the average age was 70!
Goodo, glad it was useful Sylvia - though I do take your point that it has given you even more work to do, I would offer to help but I am seriously spatially challenged. Much better I do the research!Yes I saw Werner's messge, how splendid, that may lead us to the original -tho I suspect yours/ours will actually be more comprensive actually!
For the record I have no NL editon with a map in, mine are mostly Corgi Paperbacks. Some with the most frightful covers.
PS you know I always thought sweetbreads were the thyroid ( thymus? ) gland . Eeeeww. I am with you when you say if we had to kill and dress it ourselves we would all be vegetarian
ALERT! Did you all catch Werner's latest comment that he now does not think he needs a list of the editions of your Layer Wood books. Just so you don't do extra work. Barbara, maybe those "sweet breads" describe any of those organs. Funny, the pancreas is what goes bad on a diabetic - it can't process sugars, but I doubt they knew that when the term came into use.
I forgot to answer your question about gravy over here. It is a meat sauce here, too, sometimes thick, sometimes thin, usually made from meat drippings and thickened basically with flour. Probably the same as yours.
Anybody seen Cassie anywhere on here or the other? I remarked once that she seemed to be the youngest that we knew of - I hope that didn't discourage her. Please Cassie - speak up! We need your opinions, too.
Well, that confirms my eeeew re sweetbreads, no matter what organ they are! Yes, where are you Cassie?
I looked in my copy of The Lute Player, and mine doesn't have a map, but it is a pb (paperback).
The next post will be my list of NL books that are centered in the Layer Wood - Baildon area. I came up with 18 titles, but am certain I have missed a few. After removing all of her biographical fiction and non-fiction, I scanned every book for the familiar terms and places she uses in all the areas of this map. It seemed to me that a few towns may have been used in these books as well as other areas (such as London or Bury) but if the central story wasn't in the Layer Wood area, I didn't include it.Please list any books not included there that are central to our map area on this thread ASAP so that Werner will have a complete list for his library research.
WERNER, please let me know if I can do anything else to help you look into these titles. The pub. dates given seem to be the first edition, which I assume would more likely be a hardbound edition. We might have to make a revised list if our researchers come up with some changes. Thanks a trillion (inflation) from all of us! Next post: the list.
LAYER WOOD/BAILDON BOOKS:AFTERNOON OF AN AUTOCRAT 1956
BLESS THIS HOUSE 1954
BRITTLE GLASS, THE 1942
GAD'S HALL 1977
HAUNTING OF GAD'S HALL, THE 1978
HOMECOMING, THE 1975
HOUSE AT OLD VINE, THE 1961
HOUSE AT SUNSET, THE 1962
JASSY 1944
KNIGHT'S ACRE 1975
LETTY 1949
LONELY FURROW, THE 1977
MADSELIN 1969
MAUDE REED TALE, THE 1971
MICHAEL AND ALL ANGELS 1943
NETHERGATE 1973
OLD PRIORY, THE 1981
PARGETERS 1986
RUPERT hATTON'S TALE 1972
TO SEE A FINE LADY 1946
TOWNHOUSE, THE 1959
WAYSIDE TAVERN, A 1980
Duplicate titles of some of the above are: THE DEADLY GIFT, THE DEVIL IN CLEVELY, THE GOLDEN FLEECE, HAUNTED HOUSE, THE HOUSE TRILOGY, QUEEN'S HOUSE, SUFFOLK TRILOGY
I think I missed one myself, a child's book, which I don't have and don't have the pub. date for it: THE RUPERT HATTON TALE. Anybody have it for the date?
Does anyone know what Muchanger was (house, village, etc.) and how close it was to Ockley Manor?
Distances between, or which property is next to which other property will be extremely helpful. I will be scouring the Town House Trilogy books and Afternoon of an Autocrat next, so don't list any locales in those 4 books right now.
Everyone is welcome to use the information to come up with your own map as well. Maybe we'll end up with several maps to post, and you can choose your favorite to display or keep for reference.
I am hoping to make mine into a tapestry or wall hanging, maybe just using a tan weaver's cloth and color permanent markers. My embroidery days are over.
Reminder - a published map already exists out there somewhere. I saw it on the inside front cover of a NL book about 40 years ago. It was probably a library edition, and would not be in a paperback.
Thanks everybody, and special thanks to Barbara for suggesting a separate thread for this topic.