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I was thinking of this scene when telling you "you will all know" when you found the right guy :)
How is everything working out with her?
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I was thinking of this scene when telling you "you will all know" when you found the right guy :)
How is everything working out with her?"
She's doing great. She's feeling very comfortable now... next step is working on training :-)
I was thinking of this scene when telling you "you will all know" when you found the right guy :)
How is everything working out with her?"
She's doing great. She's feeling very comfortable now... next step is working on training :-)
Loofahcat2 wrote: "I love when Dean includes dogs in his novels. :)
Vicky"
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And a teleporting dog is even more fun! :-)
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Vicky"
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And a teleporting dog is even more fun! :-)
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"I endured one of my lost-and-alone dreams. Sometimes it is set in a deserted department store, sometimes in a vacant amusement park or in a train terminal where no trains depart and none arrive." - Relentless, Chapter 4
Vacant amusement park = reference to Hideaway?
Vacant amusement park = reference to Hideaway?
"...I sat in an armchair in my study, reading 'A Good Man is Hard to Find' by Flannery O'Connor, a short story that I much admired.
One of the most disturbing pieces of fiction ever written, it remains as affecting on the tenth pass as on the first. This might have been my twentieth reading, but Miss O'Connor inspired in me a greater dread than ever before." - Relentless, Chapter 6
I've never read anything by Flannery O'Connor, but Dean must really like her. She was also mentioned in Brother Odd which I re-read just previous to re-reading Relentless.
One of the most disturbing pieces of fiction ever written, it remains as affecting on the tenth pass as on the first. This might have been my twentieth reading, but Miss O'Connor inspired in me a greater dread than ever before." - Relentless, Chapter 6
I've never read anything by Flannery O'Connor, but Dean must really like her. She was also mentioned in Brother Odd which I re-read just previous to re-reading Relentless.


if you're interested in the genre, check it out.

Vicky

You should be focusing your time on Winter Moon, not something you've already read, despite it being a very good book!!! X-( ;-)
I currently have the audiobook CD of Relentless which helps me get through a book faster. I have the audiobook for Watchers and Winter Moon coming from my library soon :-)

Okay, fair enough.

Good.
I think Dean based the Shearman Waxx character on a real book critic that was stalking him. Holy Hell! I think I just saw Shearman Waxx go down my hallway! I've gotta go! "Get out of my house, you book critic freak!"

Maybe it was your mother-in-law. :-)
All about Shearman Waxx:
From an online encyclopedia as quoted in Relentless:
"Shearman Waxx is an enema"
"Shearman Thorndike Waxx, award-winning critic and author of three enormously successful college textbooks on creative writing, is something of an enema."
"Waxx declines honorary doctorates and other awards requiring his attendance at any pubic event."
"He was born in 1868."
This is how Cubby describes Shearman Waxx:
"...stumpy, bow-tied, elbow-patched, Hush-Puppied, horn-rimmed-glasses-wearing, white-wine-sipping, pretentious, thick-necked, wide-assed intellectual fraud..." - Relentless, Chapter 19
From an online encyclopedia as quoted in Relentless:
"Shearman Waxx is an enema"
"Shearman Thorndike Waxx, award-winning critic and author of three enormously successful college textbooks on creative writing, is something of an enema."
"Waxx declines honorary doctorates and other awards requiring his attendance at any pubic event."
"He was born in 1868."
This is how Cubby describes Shearman Waxx:
"...stumpy, bow-tied, elbow-patched, Hush-Puppied, horn-rimmed-glasses-wearing, white-wine-sipping, pretentious, thick-necked, wide-assed intellectual fraud..." - Relentless, Chapter 19

From an online encyclopedia as quoted in Relentless:
"Shearman Waxx is an enema"..."
How can anyone not love this book?
I highly recommend Relentless. Anyone who hasn't read this yet - this is the one to read :-) It's lots of fun!
In 1933, G.K. Chesterton wrote, "The disintegration of rational society started in the drift from hearth and family; the solution must be a drift back."
-Relentless, Chapter 19
Chesterton is another author that Dean quotes a lot and another that I have never read (except short quotes in Koontz books of course). Dean also seems to be stuck in the 1930's - lots of references to the 1930's in The Good Guy and other books.
-Relentless, Chapter 19
Chesterton is another author that Dean quotes a lot and another that I have never read (except short quotes in Koontz books of course). Dean also seems to be stuck in the 1930's - lots of references to the 1930's in The Good Guy and other books.
Another title mentioned in Relentless and Brother Odd is The Tale of Despereaux, by Kate DiCamillo. I actually plan to read this book in the near future :-) All I know is there's a mouse and a princess.

The Hawaiian shirt appears....
His bass voice lent an operatic quality to Grim's greeting: "Children! What a delightful surprise. Welcome to our stronghold."
As Usual, he wore a vibrant Hawaiian shirt, khaki pants, and sneakers. The shirt presented an acre of lush palm trees silhouetted against a sunset; and one of his shoes could have carried the baby Moses down the river more safely than an ark of bulrushes.
-Relentless, Chapter 37
His bass voice lent an operatic quality to Grim's greeting: "Children! What a delightful surprise. Welcome to our stronghold."
As Usual, he wore a vibrant Hawaiian shirt, khaki pants, and sneakers. The shirt presented an acre of lush palm trees silhouetted against a sunset; and one of his shoes could have carried the baby Moses down the river more safely than an ark of bulrushes.
-Relentless, Chapter 37
"Always, the eye sees more than the mind can comprehend, and we go through life self-blinded to much that lies before us. We want a simple world, but we live in a magnificently complex one, and rather than open ourselves to it, we perceive the world through filters that make it less daunting."
-Relentless, Chapter 26
-Relentless, Chapter 26
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Jason :-), just wondering what you thought of this conversation in Relentless:
"You've gone off meat!" Clo declared. "Oh, girl, you've become a grazer!"
"No, Mom. I could never do that."
"Vegetarianism kills," Clo warned. "Your vital organs shrivel, your brain dims. Look in a mirror at your teeth. You have central incisors, lateral incisors, canines - all for the purpose of chewing meat. Vegetarianism is unnatural, it's not right, it's creepy."
"I eat plenty of meat," Penny assured her. "I eat it every chance I get. I live for meat."
"Eating it often isn't enough if you're eating small portions," Clo said....
-Relentless, Chapter 37
"You've gone off meat!" Clo declared. "Oh, girl, you've become a grazer!"
"No, Mom. I could never do that."
"Vegetarianism kills," Clo warned. "Your vital organs shrivel, your brain dims. Look in a mirror at your teeth. You have central incisors, lateral incisors, canines - all for the purpose of chewing meat. Vegetarianism is unnatural, it's not right, it's creepy."
"I eat plenty of meat," Penny assured her. "I eat it every chance I get. I live for meat."
"Eating it often isn't enough if you're eating small portions," Clo said....
-Relentless, Chapter 37

"You've gone off meat!" Clo declared. "Oh, girl, you've become a grazer!"
"No, Mom. I could never do that."
"Vegetari..."
It amused me. However, the arguments do nothing to convince me, as many of them are outright false, whereas others are easily countered. :-P

His bass voice lent an operatic quality to Grim's greeting: "Children! What a delightful surprise. Welcome to our stronghold."
As Usual, he wore a vibrant Hawaiian s..."
I noticed this when I read it also. :-)

Vicky

Good for the two of you, Vicky! Veggie power!!! :-)
Well, I think Bob the Tomato is pretty cool. Although the cucumber is cool too. :-) Is Larry the Cucumber? Actually, I don't watch the show (anymore :-) but I still have the soundtrack.

I have never seen anything associated with Veggie Tales, though I have known of its existence for a while. I figured it was just another innocuous entertainment franchise for children. Imagine my surprise when I discovered from a friend here in grad school (who remains a big fan of it) that it is actually a ploy to inculcate children with Christian doctrine. :-/
Your friend was right - which is probably why I haven't watched any Veggie Tales for quite a while :-) It's pretty clever/funny and the tunes are rather catchy :-)
Relentless will be released in paperback on April 27th, 2010. Check out the cover - do you think Dean & his publishers are putting too many dogs on the bookcovers? Do pictures of dogs on the covers help sell books?


No and yes.


You might not like having dogs on the cover, so I get your answer to his first question, but you must admit that, as a general rule, books with dogs on the cover will tend to sell better, at least in Western cultures.
:-) Here's another question - What would you pick for the cover on relentless? A book critic wearing a bowtie? A boy genius working on science gadgets? Maybe a hunchback type character?
The original Hardcover just had the Word "Relentless" in shades of red, white background with water droplets.
Another cover (which I don't think actually got printed at least not in the US) had a bird/tree on the cover (I don't know why).
I guess Dean Koontz's book covers warrants it's own discussion :-) I might just start one.
The original Hardcover just had the Word "Relentless" in shades of red, white background with water droplets.

Another cover (which I don't think actually got printed at least not in the US) had a bird/tree on the cover (I don't know why).

I guess Dean Koontz's book covers warrants it's own discussion :-) I might just start one.
I actually like that bird soaring over the woods. I know the original title for Relentless was "The Other Side of The Woods"
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Here's the link to the book covers discussion - I might be the only one crazy enough to comment :-) but if anyone else wants to comment, please feel free.
Here's the link to the book covers discussion - I might be the only one crazy enough to comment :-) but if anyone else wants to comment, please feel free.

You might not like having dogs on the cover, so I get your answer to his first question, but you must admit that, as a general rule, books with dogs on the cover will tend to sell better, at least in Western cultures. ."
Is there any data to prove that ? I've never heard about such theory.
Personally, I wouldn't buy a book marketed as thriller or horror with a smiling dog on the cover - much too abstract for me.
Dustin wrote: "Another cover (which I don't think actually got printed at least not in the US) had a bird/tree on the cover (I don't know why)."
That one is pretty good.
I think so too. I mean at first I started making fun of it, saying why does this have a bird blah blah blah - then I actually looked at the covers, and the bird soaring is better :-) out of the 3, I'd like to see this one.
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If you love dogs - you're sure to love Relentless :-) here's an early passage:
On his third birthday, Milo declared, "We're gonna rescue a doggy.".....
En route, he said, "We're almost to the doggy." Half a block later, he pointed to a sign - ANIMAL SHELTER.....
Scores of forlorn dogs occupied cages, but Milo walked directly to the middle of the center row in the kennel and said, "This one."
She was a fifty-pound two-year-old Australian shepherd mix with a shaggy black-and-white coat, one eye blue and the other gray. She had no collie in her, but Milo named her Lassie.