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Why Do Some People Hate The Idea of Ebooks So Much?

But you know what is worse than readers who hate e-books? The publishers who are trying all they can to make it very hard to get the darned things. First there is DRM. Then you have publishers who say that they will not release e-versions of books until months after the hardcover is out. And then you have publishers who will only contract to release their books in only one format so that people who don't have a specific reader are SOL. All of this is supposedly to combat piracy and protect hardcover sales. I say all it will do is encourage piracy and make consumers mad so they won't buy the book out of spite. It baffles me that they don't seem to get it. Not only are they alienating sales of people who probably wouldn't buy hardcover anyway, they are losing impulse buys.
I just think people shouldn't knock something until they try it. I always thought I'd hate audiobooks, but I don't. I really enjoy them. They offer a type of reading experience that you can't get from a book you have to hold and look at. With the best audio books you get a vocal performance and you can listen while you clean the house or exercise.
And I agree 100% that my e-reader had revitalized my reading incredibly. Part of it has to do with free promotions. I have discovered at least six new authors that I'd never read before and probably would have never paid attention to, but now I actively purchase their stuff. And it all has to do with free "try me out" digital offers that proliferate.
But the other part has to do with the incredible ease of actually receiving the content. If I am reading a book and it is very good and I finish it at 1 am. If I want to start right then and there to read the sequel, I can. And believe me, this has happened to me!
I am not one of those people who "need to hold a paper book in my hand". I am one of those people who want to read a good book.

The goal, though, is to get the kindle DX, eventually. In fact, after I've pared down the physical tbr, I want to switch completely to reading books digitally and only having the physical books of those stories I absolutely loved. It'll certainly get rid of a lot of the clutter in my library and my husband can finally breath a sigh of relief once I return his fair share of the shelves. lol
I think people should use whatever medium that's more convenient for their needs or lifestyles. I'm glad e-books are here to stay. If you really love to read having many different access to books can't be a bad thing, and I agree that it's a great promotion tool for new authors to get their names out there.
I love printed books. I like to have a book in my hand.
I don't own a e-reader and I don't want to own one, unless something change years from now.
I don't have anything against ebooks. I just rather have my book in my hand. Plus, I buy my books from the library or if I go to a garage sale, but 99.9% I buy my books from the library.
I know that you can read some ebooks on your computer.
I don't read erotic books and to my knowledge a lot of BWWM ebooks are erotic books.
I know that some authors write non-erotic books. Those are the books I would check out, but through the library, if they can get it. My library has it to where we can check out ebooks.
I don't own a e-reader and I don't want to own one, unless something change years from now.
I don't have anything against ebooks. I just rather have my book in my hand. Plus, I buy my books from the library or if I go to a garage sale, but 99.9% I buy my books from the library.
I know that you can read some ebooks on your computer.
I don't read erotic books and to my knowledge a lot of BWWM ebooks are erotic books.
I know that some authors write non-erotic books. Those are the books I would check out, but through the library, if they can get it. My library has it to where we can check out ebooks.
It's a great question, Stacy-Deanne. I wouldn't say I hate ebooks. I just prefer physical books, because they fit my lifestyle better (as Davina said). I plan to get a Kindle DX probably in the next couple of weeks, but this will not replace my print books, this is just an additional method of reading. I guess I'm too possessive. I like the ability to own a book that I love! It's not the same having an ecopy. It's not tangible like a physical book. So I don't get the same joy out of owning an ebook. I recently splurged and bought Shara Azod's Anchors Aweigh series in print, despite having ecopies. I wanted to be able to pull the book off the shelf and thumb through and reread it. Throw it in my purse and be on the go. Also I do worry about the technical issues associated with ebooks. What if my computer crashes? That's a lot of money down the drain. Yes, I know my house could catch on fire (knock on wood), but I feel more secure with the physical copies.
On the other side, I like the fact that I can read new authors that the publishers won't take a chance on. I like that genres are more fluid in the ebook market. I have distinct tastes, such as books that fit into the weird fiction/neo-classic genres. Those books may not make it to print or the bookstore, so reading them in ebook is a way to get a hold of them. Also, there are more interracial books in the emarket. I do have to agree with Arch that I have gotten burned trying to buy a large variety of IR ebooks, and they are seriously erotic. But I haven't given up on ebooks. I just carefully research which ones are in my taste range.
I like ebooks. I think they're great, but I'm never going to switch completely to ebooks. If they stop printing books, at least I have a large library of print books to fall back on, in addition to ebooks that catch my interest.
On the other side, I like the fact that I can read new authors that the publishers won't take a chance on. I like that genres are more fluid in the ebook market. I have distinct tastes, such as books that fit into the weird fiction/neo-classic genres. Those books may not make it to print or the bookstore, so reading them in ebook is a way to get a hold of them. Also, there are more interracial books in the emarket. I do have to agree with Arch that I have gotten burned trying to buy a large variety of IR ebooks, and they are seriously erotic. But I haven't given up on ebooks. I just carefully research which ones are in my taste range.
I like ebooks. I think they're great, but I'm never going to switch completely to ebooks. If they stop printing books, at least I have a large library of print books to fall back on, in addition to ebooks that catch my interest.

I am really looking forward to the first real world useage reports on the B&N Nook. That's my choice for an ebook reader. If the first wave of consumer reports is really bad, then I think I'll go with the Sony ereader. Besides, the first release of new hardware always has bugs that need to be shaken out. I'm waiting until they perfect the Nook and then I'll chance buying one. Reading ebooks in bed will be a lot more comfortable with an ereader.

The only real problem I have is that a lot of IR paperbacks tend to be a lot more expensive for less book than mainstream romances. So I may get the $5 e-book on occasion rather than spend $15(depending on the story length and difficulty in locating in paperback).
Plus a lot of e-books are trending to short stories. Sometimes too short and not worth the price. Some are only a couple of bucks, but I've seen some that charge the same price for a 40 page story that another publisher will charge for a 200 page story.
So for me...e-books definitely have their pros & cons.

There seems to be from the ones I've downloaded. I've found way more IR short stories (less than 100 pages) than full length novels....though there are plenty of them out there.
Loni wrote: "There seems to be from the ones I've downloaded. I've found way more IR short stories (less than 100 pages) than full length novels....though there are plenty of them out there."
I wish that more IR book comes out in print. More pages.
I wish that more IR book comes out in print. More pages.
Looking at it from the other angle, I'm noticing a lot more IR shorts are selling more than the longer works. Not sure if it's a case of the readers interested in shorter works due to time constraints or maybe they're testing out the waters of new authors but checking out the short works but there it is. I often wonder if readers are still interested in longer works. I love a good long story myself but often it takes longer because I'm so busy. That's why I've been grabbing a lot of anthologies and short stories lately.
I don't mind ebooks or print myself. Depending on the novel and type of story I'm good to go either way. Throw in some audio books so I can listen while working and I'm good! :-D
I don't mind ebooks or print myself. Depending on the novel and type of story I'm good to go either way. Throw in some audio books so I can listen while working and I'm good! :-D
I write long stories, but I can't read long, long stories. Unless it's a good story. A catcher. It will take me a while to finish the book.
I don't know how much ebooks cost, but I will use an example. I can't see myself paying $10.00 for a 40 pages book.
I can't even get everything that I want to say about my story in 40 pages.
I don't know how much ebooks cost, but I will use an example. I can't see myself paying $10.00 for a 40 pages book.
I can't even get everything that I want to say about my story in 40 pages.

Sometimes you can tell what may be really short if the price is only $1.99. At least you will likely not be caught by surprise on the length. I just don't like when a publisher adds paperback novel prices for a short e-book story no longer than a high school essay.
Wow! A 500 page ebook. I can see the justification for 8 bucks then.
I agree with, Arch. Something like 10 bucks for 40 pages is nuts. I usually don't like to pay more than 5 or 6 dollars for an ebook. When it goes into paperback prices that's when it's a bit steep for me.
I agree with, Arch. Something like 10 bucks for 40 pages is nuts. I usually don't like to pay more than 5 or 6 dollars for an ebook. When it goes into paperback prices that's when it's a bit steep for me.

I've been an avid readers since my youth and have amassed a very large collection of printed books. But I also enjoy reading e-books. I haven't invested in a e-reader yet, but I plan to. However also continue to keep reading and buying print books as well.

I very,very,very rarely buy hardcover. I used to and frankly there are not a lot of books that I can really say were worth the 25 to 30 dollars a hardcover costs. They take up more space, you can;t cart them around in your purse etc. These days it will take an exceptional book to get me to pony up in hardcover.
If the ebook version of one of my autobuy books comes out at the 9.99 price point I will most likely buy it. But for the most part I have never had to spend more than 5.00 on any ebook. I just don't think with the lack of paper, shipping, distribution etc. that the 7.99/8.99 price I see for a mass market paper back book is necessary when you cut out some of those things. Right now most ebooks I have been getting have been more around 3-4.00 and these are major names, mass market books.
I will never buy an ebook for more than they are selling mass market. If I absolutely can't get an ebook for the price point I want and I really want the book I'll buy the paper book for the lower price.
If it is an author I've never read before and the ebook price is $3 or less I'd buy the book to give it a try. If the ebook price is the same or higher than the paperback, I won't spend that much on an untried author. I'd try to get it from the library. It may seem that a 3-4 difference is not a lot, but when you buy and read as much as I do it adds up. I have a couple of boxes of books of authors I've tried but didn't like.
I will never, ever buy graphic novels in e format. There are some types of books you really need the pages, the color and the feel.
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Rae wrote: "Looking at it from the other angle, I'm noticing a lot more IR shorts are selling more than the longer works. Not sure if it's a case of the readers interested in shorter works due to time constrai..."
Rae, I admit I love short story anthologies, especially in the horror/spec fiction/fantasy genre. It's a nice little bite and then I can put the volume down and come back to when I'm ready.
Rae, I admit I love short story anthologies, especially in the horror/spec fiction/fantasy genre. It's a nice little bite and then I can put the volume down and come back to when I'm ready.

I very,very,very rarely buy hardcover. I used to and frankly there are not a lot of books that I can really say w..."
I agree Tina. I've bought less than 10 hardcover books in 20 years. I usually hold out for the paperback version or hunt down the hardcover from the library.
Eugenia,
I agree that most e-book prices are in line with the size. I've found some publishers are more reasonable than others. But there are a few that overcharge on occasion in relevance to book size. And like Tina says...that can add up if you're a frequent buyer.
I like the site allromanceebooks.com. I've found some really good e-books and new authors to read. Plus they're always offering freebie e-books from known authors when you make a purchase.
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I agree with you about graphic novels in ebook format. I don't see how that's worth it, IMHO. You lose part of the artistic appeal.
I am a huge fan of used books. Most of the books I buy are actually used. I often will wait for a recently release to hit the used bookstore. I admit I will spend a little more for my small print classic horror/weird fiction/speculative fiction books and a lot of IR novels that I want in print form that I buy on Amazon, and that's because that's the best way to get them. But I also check the used bookstore for them to come there. I admit I get frustrated about the high price of IR. I will need to go back and buy all of Marie Rochelle and Rae and some of the other IR authors in paperback at some point.
I am definitely a book huntress when it comes to buying books. I always try to get the best price, whether it's a used book, B&N membership card, coupons in the email from Barnes and Noble/Borders, Amazon buy 3, get one free, you name it.
I am a huge fan of used books. Most of the books I buy are actually used. I often will wait for a recently release to hit the used bookstore. I admit I will spend a little more for my small print classic horror/weird fiction/speculative fiction books and a lot of IR novels that I want in print form that I buy on Amazon, and that's because that's the best way to get them. But I also check the used bookstore for them to come there. I admit I get frustrated about the high price of IR. I will need to go back and buy all of Marie Rochelle and Rae and some of the other IR authors in paperback at some point.
I am definitely a book huntress when it comes to buying books. I always try to get the best price, whether it's a used book, B&N membership card, coupons in the email from Barnes and Noble/Borders, Amazon buy 3, get one free, you name it.

I am a huge fan of used books. Most of the books I buy are act..."
I like Amazon. It's my research arm for new books. Plus I can usually find books that I cannot locate in the big stores like Borders or B&N.

The problem people have with ebooks is (this is from discussions I've seen) that they come from smaller epublishers. You have the readers who think that the smaller epubs put out poor work product as far as bad writing, bad grammar. Then you have the authors who believe that epubbed writers aren't that good whereas they've been accepted into print. All this came to a head last year at the romance writers convention when they didn't want to accept e-pubbed writers into the Golden Heart / RITA or something like that. It made a bunch of epubbed writers angry because they felt the RWA were being snobby. So yes, a lot of people get bent out of shape about it.
I'm like this, I still read print when I can find my glasses. If I really like a story, I really don't get into being a grammar nazi as long as it isn't blatant or annoying. I'm pretty careful about what I buy and I have bought a few e-pubbed stories that I wanted to stab a pen through my computer screen they were so awful. But there are some I really love and I've read more from the same author. I love e-books. I can also read them at work when I have downtime and people think I'm working. Ha ha.
I don't have any print e-pubbed books because most of the smaller e-pubs get their books from LuLu and Lightening Source, which is the reason for the high price. That's the only way they and the author can make any kind of money. My friend had a book published from winning a contest but the epub only released it in print and the book was like $18. I was annoyed because it was outrageous. The book wasn't that many page either. I don't understand why they didn't release in e-book format. This is one of the complaints I have about a lot of smaller e-presses is they are author mills where they will pretty much accept any author although they claim they have criteria for accepting an author. But they don't and I have a few ebooks of theirs to prove the poor writing and grammer. This is what gives e-book authors a bad name, even if they're a good writer. That's another reason why I'm choosing to self-publish.
I am not even a published writer and don't care to be one. I wouldn't come down hard on another writer for errors in their books. Writing is my talent, but it doesn't exempt me from having errors. I'm sure if a lot of people read my story Courage or any of my other stories, they would think I am a horrible writer. Oh well!
A lot of authors can't help it that they only way they can get their story published is by going the ebook route.
Writing is not easy. Writing takes guts and not just for writing, but for sharing as well.
A lot of authors can't help it that they only way they can get their story published is by going the ebook route.
Writing is not easy. Writing takes guts and not just for writing, but for sharing as well.

I guess I'm just resistant to change in this area. For me there's just something about going to the bookstore. Or, I can throw a book in bag, drop it or whatever, and not worry about it breaking/ cracking. Not to mention all the places people may read, like while in the bathtub for example. However, I have noticed that there a lot of books/ authors that I'd like to read that are only available in an ebook format right now. My question is for those of you that are using Kindles and such, how long does it take for your book to download to the kindle or other ebook reader?
I still buy CDs, but I often burn the songs I like onto the computer and make mix cds to listen to in my car and at work. I take cds to work to listen to, as well.
Michelle wrote: "I guess I'm just resistant to change in this area. For me there's just something about going to the bookstore. Or, I can throw a book in bag, drop it or whatever, and not worry about it breaking/ ..."
Michelle, I'm with you about books. They are much more portable and durable, IMHO.
Michelle, I'm with you about books. They are much more portable and durable, IMHO.

@Eugenia-I am moving my CD tower to the basement. I used to be a member of a CD club (you know buy 13 for a penny) so I have a ton. However, you are right, since my iPod, I haven't purchased another CD. I can just get the one or two songs off of the CD that I like and not have to buy the whole thing.
Another consideration ladies, and I guess I think about this because I have kids and I am in healthcare. One of the new concerns for kids is back problems. The books they carry (especially High School and College) in their backpacks are starting to give them problems. They are actually testing ereaders in college with text books to see how they can make it more textbook friendly. I would love to see my high schooler not have to haul all of those books because they can no longer have the bags that roll.
Sorry about the length, just took my Adderall (smile).

If I buy the book elsewhere then I download it to my computer and then transfer it via USB cable to my Kindle.
Ebooks are relatively small files. They range from 200 - 500k. So the time it takes for a download or a transfer is ridiculously quick.
I don't think the issue of ebook v. paper has to be an either or thing. Ebooks are, imo, an added value. I haven't abandoned paper books because there are still some books I simply can't get in eformat. And there are some books that I love to read in paper still.
I am one of those psychos who really gets very nervous if I don't have reading material on hand at all times. In the past that meant carrying a book and a spare (just in case...). Now I have about 150 spares. To me this value is incalculable.
Tina wrote: "@ Michelle - I have a Kindle and if I buy the book from Amazon, it takes only about a minute or less for the book to download.
If I buy the book elsewhere then I download it to my computer and t..."
--I'm the same way, Tina. I go into freakout mode if I don't have a book to read. That's why I usually throw two-three books in my bag on the way out.
If I buy the book elsewhere then I download it to my computer and t..."
--I'm the same way, Tina. I go into freakout mode if I don't have a book to read. That's why I usually throw two-three books in my bag on the way out.

That's a good idea. I need to do that just in case of my laptop crashing or something.

Eugenia wrote: "About a second, that's it. It's fast, I don't worry about anything breaking or cracking because I have a cover on it. I like carrying around books but it's hard to carry a lot. Right now I have abo..."
Tina wrote: "@ Michelle - I have a Kindle and if I buy the book from Amazon, it takes only about a minute or less for the book to download.
If I buy the book elsewhere then I download it to my computer and t..."
You're right, I have no idea why I've been limiting myself, and waiting for certain books to be released in a pb version. I'm going to really take some time this week to look into getting an some kind of electronic reader.
Tina wrote: "@ Michelle - I have a Kindle and if I buy the book from Amazon, it takes only about a minute or less for the book to download.
If I buy the book elsewhere then I download it to my computer and t..."
You're right, I have no idea why I've been limiting myself, and waiting for certain books to be released in a pb version. I'm going to really take some time this week to look into getting an some kind of electronic reader.
Thank you guys for answering my questions. I can only imagination the satisfaction of getting newly purchased books in a minute or less!


We won't even mention my "fake" book. Many of the classics are free so when people want to see my Kindle, and they ALWAYS want to see my Kindle, I have "Alice in Wonderland" for them to see, instead of "Mistress and the Beast" or some other vampire or erotica trashiness I may be on (hehehehe).

Yeah, the free content is so seductive. On the one hand, I have discovered so many new authors. and yes, Cythia Eden's Midnight series is one where the first book was free, I read it and bought the other two lickety split. On the other hand... my pocketbook. *sob*.
@Loni. All the e-readers have pros and cons. I love my Kindle, but the biggest con with the Kindle is that you can't read secured Adobe eformat on it which is what you need to read Library electronic books. And my library has a kick butt digital catalog. Sigh.
The Nook looks really nice and can read adobe. But I would not adopt any first version of any technology. The Nook right now is kinda buggy, (so I've heard) so I'd wait until they either fixed up their firmware or went to a Nook 2.0. I am a technophile and waited until 3rd Generation to get mu first IPOD. But if B&N gets it's act together I might just get a Nook as my second e-reader.
saninbham wrote: "@Michelle-just be careful. I have found that I have purchased so many books because of the convenience of downloading. I just go from one book to the next without thought sometimes. Also, with th..."
I know what you mean. I love buying, selling, reading, trading, and talking about books. I know getting a Kindle would definitely feed my addiction. Especially with the occasional free book offers. After looking at the number of books that I'd like to read that are only available in ebook format, purchasing a Kindle is looking better and better.
I know what you mean. I love buying, selling, reading, trading, and talking about books. I know getting a Kindle would definitely feed my addiction. Especially with the occasional free book offers. After looking at the number of books that I'd like to read that are only available in ebook format, purchasing a Kindle is looking better and better.
Eugenia wrote: "saninbham wrote: "@Michelle-just be careful. I have found that I have purchased so many books because of the convenience of downloading. I just go from one book to the next without thought sometim..."
Getting the classics for free is amazing! I'd load up too, lol!
Getting the classics for free is amazing! I'd load up too, lol!

When I heard Midnight series I immediately thought of the Lisa Marie Rice series of the same name. I LOVED that series. If anyone hasn't tried it, you should! I'll have to look into the Cynthia Eden series. What is it all about? IR?

You know, I initially had reservations about the screen size and reading ebooks on my Blackberry, but I find that it is not hard on my eyes at all. The small screen, with its short text lines, don't tire my eyes out. I also seem to read faster with an ebook, but particularly with ebooks on my Blackerry.
You can also download a lot of books from Project Gutenberg. It's a website. I've found quite a few rather obscure classic horror books on there.
Loni, the Kindle DX is about the size of a 8.5 x 11 page. That's one of the reasons I'm buying one. Also it has a native PDF reader. That's a big selling point to me since I have a tremendous backlog of ebooks on my computer right now.

I think this is something publishers have realized works. I used to scoff at some authors who put free samples or free previews on their sites. But now I see why! It really helps gain an audience and it expands an audience for authors already out there. I used to think, "Well if they read it free, they won't check out your other book." But I was wrong. I know I'm not the only one to get hooked on reading an author's free sample and then end up having that person because one of your new favorite authors, LOL.
I love how you can explore different genres too. For example, I even read a paranormal book the other day! I don't usually read that genre and if I hadn't my ereader, I wouldn't have tried it. Ebooks have helped me to "test the waters" and be more daring about things I wouldn't normally read. It has forced me to give new authors a chance, authors who might be good but don't have the luxury of being on a bookstore shelf. I'm not a person who reads a lot of best selling books. I know some folks shop by the NY Times list. That's not me. I don't care how much a book has sold. I only care about how it's written and if it interests me. Plus, all the best selling books I've read, most of them I didn't like half as much as books from newer authors or some of the authors coming up in the ebook world now.
This might sound weird, but I feel like reading ebooks has made me a better person. I used to be so prejudiced and shallow about what I would read and wouldn't read. Then ebooks showed me a whole new world. I became more inclined to try books from folks I never would have touched if I was browsing in the bookstore. In the bookstores, I knew what I wanted and knew what I liked. I only went to my favorite sections and got books from my favorite authors and that was it. I didn't travel out of my little "mind frame" enough to try other people. Reading ebooks showed me how short sighted I was being.
I used to shun all self-published books because of the stigma. We know there are a lot of them are terrible and not edited. But we shouldn't judge them all by the reputation. I'm reading a self-published book now that is pretty decent. The editing is fine and the author has a great voice. I wouldn't have ever known about this guy if I wasn't into ebooks. I no longer automatically close my eyes on SP books. The best thing about ebooks is you can sample a book before downloading and buying it. So you can read a few pages to see if you like the style.
I still love print books and I respect those who do. But for me, ebooks have been very liberating. I can now support all authors no matter how they are published. I also felt bad for being so snooty in the past. I used to turn my nose up at ebooks and SP books and I shouldn't have done that. I'm an author myself and should support them all. But I am big enough to admit, I was wrong. In some of those cases, I shouldn't have been so quick to judge the book by its cover. LOL.
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It's less of a gamble to buy an ebook for $1-5, than paying for a paperback or trade paperback. And you can always buy the book in paperback later.

Oh goodness I hope this doesn't start a war, LOL! Some people who are against ebooks have been very hateful towards the idea. Let me say this. Up until December, I didn't read ebooks. I didn't like the idea of them either. But I got a Sony Reader for Christmas and now I LOVE ebooks! I am reading more than I was, faster and I find entire world opened up to more possibilities. What I really like is how I am able to read and enjoy a lot of e-authors who are not published in print. There are A LOT of talented ebook writers out there and it's been a great experience vasting in their talent.
I was never a book snob, but I was close-minded. I wanted to pretend that ebooks didn't have their place. I was wrong. I can admit that. I was also forgetting that a lot of new writers are only writing for e-publishers and if I really wanted to support fellow writers, I should be reading them! LOL!
It amazes me how heated this subject gets. All I know is that I think ebooks are going to stay around. I think that's something we have to accept. I don't think they will replace physical books and lovers of physical books should realize that people can like both. It doesn't have to be "one or the other". It's just a method. Some prefer one method over the other. Some read both.
I know one thing, I've fallen in love with some new e-novelists that I wouldn't have known of if I hadn't given ereading a chance.
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