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message 4401: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 17, 2010 08:23AM) (new)

Jeannette wrote: "I'm going to make you a Super-Mom cape, Christine! You have to advocate for your kids. How can putting a child on drugs help him to understand the directions? If he's finishing the assignment, t..."

How about one that says, "THAT Super Mom", haha! You said the same thing that I did! If it was attending to the task then he wouldn't have completed it (and neatly, thank you very much), he just did something different than was asked. All it would have taken is someone to give him an example and he would have been fine. It's grammar that he's done before, and he has done well before. I do not want him back on meds. He just becomes a zombie (without an appetite)...so a very skinny sickly zombie.


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Brenda wrote: "Christine it sounds like you are being a mom, not "that mom." Getting the support you need from the principal and others involved seems to be reasonable and hopefully will be beneficial as well.
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Thanks, Brenda. I did send out a few messages this morning (and I copied his case manager on everything), and if I don't hear back then I'll start calling voicemail. The biggest issue is that this is one of his main special ed teachers. I wouldn't have been as surprised if it was one of the regular ed teachers who didn't know his needs as well.

Okay, I'm done venting. Thanks for listening. I'm going to clean the shoe closet.


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Look out, shoes! I have another bathroom to deep-clean! And we need to set up the guest bed.


message 4404: by Brenda (new)

Brenda | 286 comments Since joining this wonderful little group, I've decided to get off my duff and got my weeding done. Now how I got mushrooms in the grass is beyond me. Next to tackle is to start walking.


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Jeannette wrote: "Look out, shoes!"

Haha! They do look nervous. They are shaking in their...errr...shoes.


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Brenda wrote: "Since joining this wonderful little group, I've decided to get off my duff and got my weeding done. Now how I got mushrooms in the grass is beyond me. Next to tackle is to start walking."

Go for it Brenda! Mushrooms just pop up, like mushrooms. :)


message 4407: by [deleted user] (new)

Christine wrote: "Jeannette wrote: "Look out, shoes!"

Haha! They do look nervous. They are shaking in their...errr...shoes."


Shaking in the boots..... :P


message 4408: by [deleted user] (new)

Jeannette wrote:Go for it Brenda! Mushrooms just pop up, like mushrooms. :)"

Nobody can match our quick wit today, eh Jeannette?


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Christine wrote: "Jeannette wrote:Go for it Brenda! Mushrooms just pop up, like mushrooms. :)"

Nobody can match our quick wit today, eh Jeannette?"


Yea-yuh! Unmatchable!


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You two are making me chuckle out loud - and I'm supposed to be working.


message 4411: by [deleted user] (new)

Shelley wrote: "You two are making me chuckle out loud - and I'm supposed to be working."

We are cleaning the house right now, can't you tell? :D


message 4412: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Christine wrote: "I went to Back to School night at the middle school last night. It's a parent thing only, and the purpose is to meet the teachers and get a feel for the curriculum. Some things went really well, b..."

The only way to combat an unenlightened person like this (I refuse to call her a teacher) is to just make her life miserable by being constantly in her face and, if need be, even getting professionals etc. involved. I obviously do not want her to lose her job, but if she will not make changes for your son she should be facing official scrutiny and censure (unfortunately, that might also cause her to take her frustration etc. out on your son, so it's best to be careful). This makes me so mad, teachers like that should not be teaching.


message 4413: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Christine wrote: "Brenda wrote: "Christine it sounds like you are being a mom, not "that mom." Getting the support you need from the principal and others involved seems to be reasonable and hopefully will be benefi..."

This is a special education teacher???? I could maybe understand it for a main stream teacher (to a certain extent), but if this is a special education teacher, wow!!


message 4414: by [deleted user] (new)

That's exactly how I feel, Gundula. This person teaches 3 of his classes because he is in the autism program.


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Jeannette wrote: "Shelley wrote: "You two are making me chuckle out loud - and I'm supposed to be working."

We are cleaning the house right now, can't you tell? :D"


My shoe closet is sparkling clean now. I'm off to hit another closet before I pick up my kids.


message 4416: by [deleted user] (new)

show-off *mumble, grumble* I was very productive today: I ate lunch. :)


message 4417: by [deleted user] (new)

Jeannette wrote: "show-off *mumble, grumble* I was very productive today: I ate lunch. :)"

Lol! That was about my speed today, Jeannette. also the grocery shopping.


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Hayes wrote: "Jeannette wrote: "show-off *mumble, grumble* I was very productive today: I ate lunch. :)"

Lol! That was about my speed today, Jeannette. also the grocery shopping."


Thanks, Hayes! :)


message 4419: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments I only have time to write a quick post. Christine, you be "that" mom and make sure the teacher knows you are "that" mom who won't back down and won't let her kid down. Hayes, nice glasses.


message 4420: by [deleted user] (new)

Jeannette wrote: "show-off *mumble, grumble* I was very productive today: I ate lunch. :)"

You are so funny! Don't mumble grumble....I was working off my rage. I'll be nice and unproductive tomorrow. :)


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Kathy wrote: "I only have time to write a quick post. Christine, you be "that" mom and make sure the teacher knows you are "that" mom who won't back down and won't let her kid down. Hayes, nice glasses."

Thanks, Kathy. The responses I am getting today are obviously "cover my butt" emails from everyone involved. I think everyone is worried about putting things into writing, and they apparently panic if a parent suggests that they aren't following the IEP. Well, this teacher will have me attached to her like glue for the year now.


message 4422: by [deleted user] (new)

I'll be working on your cape and crown soon!! :) You go, mom!


message 4423: by Lee, Mod Mama (new)

Lee (leekat) | 3959 comments Mod
Go Christine! I was so mad when I read about your experience this morning that I couldn't think of anything positive to post. All I can say is kick some butt.


message 4424: by Ronyell (new)

Ronyell (rabbitearsblog) | 174 comments Brenda wrote: "Christine it sounds like you are being a mom, not "that mom." Getting the support you need from the principal and others involved seems to be reasonable and hopefully will be beneficial as well.
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Thanks Brenda!!!


message 4425: by Ronyell (new)

Ronyell (rabbitearsblog) | 174 comments Jeannette wrote: "I just got an email from one of the Japanese exchange students that we will be hosting this week. It's kind of exciting to be doing this -- I've never hosted any students before. I hope they like..."

That sounds really exciting Jeannette!!


message 4426: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Christine, I scrolled up, to message 4494. Ugh. Benjamin is lucky to have you for a mother. Some kids' parents wouldn't even get involved or advocate for their kids. Ugh. Sorry you're going through having to deal with this. I'd like to think schools have some creative staff members but of course many don't care enough about individual kids. It's enough to make one sick.


message 4427: by [deleted user] (new)

Morning everyone!

Christine, how are you doing this morning? A little calmer? I know everyone has said it already, but I can't believe that woman!

Easy for me to say, but try to keep the intensity, but not the anger and I think you'll be far more effective.

A lot of people don't deal well with anger, and when they see an angry mother they tend to brush her off: they hear the anger, but not the sense of the words behind it.

I know this from personal experience; I have a very hard time containing my anger in situations like this! Like when everyone in my son's 5th grade class, teachers included, were trying to convince me that all the trouble in the class was caused by my son. Right...

Big hug, dear.


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Hayes wrote: "Morning everyone!

Christine, how are you doing this morning? A little calmer? I know everyone has said it already, but I can't believe that woman!

Easy for me to say, but try to keep the intensi..."


Thanks, Hayes. I don't act like an "angry" mom, it's not in my personality. I do, however, let them know that I am upset. I used to work for the schools as a speech therapist (not these schools...just the school system in general) and I know what to say to push their panic buttons.
I made sure that my messages were not ranting or angry, but I did mention his IEP. Any time you put into writing that the school isn't following the IEP they react because of the legal stuff.

One interesting piece of feeback I got yesterday was that Benjamin is not showing an inability to attend in any other classes. This is good. At least the issue is isolated to this teacher and others aren't pushing for meds.

Thank you for the hugs.


message 4429: by Kristi (new)

Kristi (kristicasey) Christine, I think there's nothing wrong with being "that" mom. There are just times in life when it's required of us to stand up for our child/children. We are their voice in the adult world.

Some adults don't respect children as the people they are, and it's up to us to say "Hey, my kid deserves better than that." Especially for our kids with "different" needs. If we don't, who will.

I think as long as you're doing it respectfully, or at least with courtesy and manners it's all good. There are lots of really polite ways to say you're a complete nimrod. :O

Here in the South, I've learned they say "Bless Your Heart". It can go both ways, just listen to the context of the rest of the sentence.

Best of luck.


message 4430: by [deleted user] (new)

Kristi wrote: There are lots of really polite ways to say you're a complete nimrod. :O
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Hahaha!!! I love that!


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Lisa wrote: "Christine, I scrolled up, to message 4494. Ugh. Benjamin is lucky to have you for a mother. Some kids' parents wouldn't even get involved or advocate for their kids. Ugh. Sorry you're going through..."

Thanks, Lisa. Luckily I really think his case manager is one of those creative staff members. I copy her on everything I communicate. I know she has to be careful what she says to me, but she's on it.


message 4432: by [deleted user] (new)

I love "Bless Your Heart", Kristi! It can convey the speaker's feeling that they believe you to be a total dimwit, in a sweet and caring way! lol


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Pretty impressive! The Spartan's place holder passes for the winning touchdown in overtime.....


message 4434: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments I've lived all my life hearing and saying "bless your/her/his heart." However, I must say that although it can be used to hide a more critical comment one might be thinking, it has been my experience to use it and hear it used as an expression of sympathy or concern. I agree that context is important. I am guilty of using it from time to time when I'm just trying to keep my mouth shut from saying as Jeannette puts it, "what a total dimwit," but more often it is just a polite nod of sympathy.


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Kathy wrote: "I've lived all my life hearing and saying "bless your/her/his heart." However, I must say that although it can be used to hide a more critical comment one might be thinking, it has been my experie..."

I am sure when you say it, Kathy, it is very polite! It's just one of those neat phrases that appear so slight and can cover a whole range of meanings. :)


message 4436: by Lee, Mod Mama (new)

Lee (leekat) | 3959 comments Mod
Morning Kathy, morning Jeannette, and good morning to all you lovely, comfey reader lurkers!


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Argh! Ahoy Comfies! Are you all talking like pirates today?

Christine: I don't act like an "angry" mom, it's not in my personality. I wish it weren't in mine! I just can't seem to hold it in sometimes, especially in the face of true dimwittedness. *sigh* I have to send my husband when the situation calls for diplomacy.

Lovely beginning of fall day today. Hot in the sunshine and cool in the shade... downpour in the afternoon. I've got the machine baking bread and the house smells yummy! Have a great day everyone.


message 4438: by Lee, Mod Mama (new)

Lee (leekat) | 3959 comments Mod
Mmmm, what kind of bread are you baking?


message 4439: by [deleted user] (new)

Are pancakes very piratey? Can we pretend we just had hardtack for lunch? arrrgh!

Okay, I feel better now. It is cold here and rainy. *yuck*


message 4440: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 19, 2010 11:16AM) (new)

Lee wrote: "Mmmm, what kind of bread are you baking?"

Whole wheat/Rye mix with caraway seeds. Just finished baking, cant hardly wait til it cools!


message 4441: by Paula (new)

Paula | 184 comments Hi there! Hope everyone had a great weekend! Thanks for the earlier sympathy with the dog-SIL issue - she's off visiting family tonight so my puppy is curled up on the bed next to me - where he belongs! :)

Lisa - those videos are awesome!! I just spent the weekend doing even more wedding planning stuff, but can say for certain that won't come up at our reception :) The bride certainly looked like she enjoyed it :)

Jeanette - Yay for your daughter, and for her teacher! ;) You both are awesome!!!! And I hope you have fun with your visitors!

Christine - I agree with what everyone else has already said. Be the mom!!


message 4442: by Lee, Mod Mama (new)

Lee (leekat) | 3959 comments Mod
Hey Paula, it looks like it was a quiet day here on the chat thread. I'm glad you have your dog curled up cozily by your side. Wasn't that wedding video amazing!

Hayes, your bread sounds fantastic. I'm getting inspired to make bread by hand. I'll let you know if I give it a go!


message 4443: by Ronyell (new)

Ronyell (rabbitearsblog) | 174 comments Hayes wrote: "Lee wrote: "Mmmm, what kind of bread are you baking?"

Whole wheat/Rye mix with caraway seeds. Just finished baking, cant hardly wait til it cools!"


Mmm...that bread sounds really good Hayes!! Let us know how it tastes! :)


message 4444: by [deleted user] (new)

Morning all!

The bread was yummy. Only problem is that we all tend to eat too much of it. I was all out of the good flour, unfortunately, but it's good anyway.

Next time we go up to the MIL's house in the country we will stop by the flour mill to get fresh flour. They call it white flour, but really it's a semi whole wheat, as they don't process it completely and some of the bran is left in. Very tasty and cheap too.


message 4445: by Ronyell (new)

Ronyell (rabbitearsblog) | 174 comments Hayes wrote: "Morning all!

The bread was yummy. Only problem is that we all tend to eat too much of it. I was all out of the good flour, unfortunately, but it's good anyway.

Next time we go up to the MIL's ho..."


That sure does sound tasty Hayes! I'm so glad that you enjoyed the bread!


message 4446: by Kristi (new)

Kristi (kristicasey) Jeannette wrote: "I love "Bless Your Heart", Kristi! It can convey the speaker's feeling that they believe you to be a total dimwit, in a sweet and caring way! lol"

Very true. But it was difficult when I first moved down here to know if I should slap someone or hug them. Makes for some weird social situations, you know?


message 4447: by Kristi (new)

Kristi (kristicasey) Kathy wrote: "I've lived all my life hearing and saying "bless your/her/his heart." However, I must say that although it can be used to hide a more critical comment one might be thinking, it has been my experie..."

Yes, Kathy I hear it as a good thing too. It's also become more common for it to be positive. But I had quite a few neighbors, who are Southern Ladies, warn me about it.

I learned quickly to decipher the context.

And I don't mean to insult Southerners. I live down here and will forever stay here, so I guess eventually (a few generations from now) my family will be Southerners. I love my neighbors and this area.


message 4448: by Brenda (new)

Brenda | 286 comments I used to work with someone from Australia and whenever I apologized for something he always said "no worries." I've loved that expression since then. Always put me at ease.


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Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Kristi wrote: "Kathy wrote: "I've lived all my life hearing and saying "bless your/her/his heart." However, I must say that although it can be used to hide a more critical comment one might be thinking, it has b..."

Oh, I didn't think you were being insulting, sweetie (now did I really mean "sweetie"--LOL!). I was thinking about this matter yesterday, and I realized that the South is famous for its sweet sarcasm, and you really do have to listen carefully for its intent. I think of all the insults disguised in syrupy comments and the unsuspecting victims, and I have to laugh at the intricacies of the whole thing. I hope I didn't sound offended, Kristi. I definitely wasn't. I think Southern women are experts at putting somebody in their place with a smile. I'm in that middle ground of being considered a Southern, but I do appreciate the sweetness and the not-so-sweetness of the Southern tongue. You're a smart lady, Kristi, to know there can be a difference.


message 4450: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Hayes, your bread sounds delicious! At the Farmer's Market on Saturday morning, I bought an applesauce cake with raisins and caramel icing. Can you say yummmmmmmmmmm! I gave most of it to my daughter and her husband who stopped by to pick up their pug Saturday night. I knew I wouldn't be able to resist it, but I did keep a little bit for myself. This coming weekend is the Pumpkin Festival here, and one of my favorite bakers is going to be there. I've already ordered zucchini bread from her to pick up on Friday. Just when I want to lose weight, I discover more great goodies. Gee!

I was glad to see mention of pirates, Jeannette. I do think pirates would eat pancakes. LOL! My son went to a pirate party on Saturday night. He came in from college especially for it. Some of his friends always come in from their various locations now that they scattered about and celebrate Pirates' Day. It's so funny. He dressed up in black with a bandanna and an eyepatch and looked very much the pirate, as he has dark hair and mustache. I wish I could have been a fly on the wall (well it was outdoors) and seen others who costumed up for it.

Last night I celebrated a friend's birthday with another friend and went out to dinner. We had so much fun. The waiter looked like Brad Pitt and his name was, well, of course, Brad. He was very entertaining. One of the gifts I gave my friend was a loaf of bread from the Farmer's Market, as well as a framed print with leopard sunglasses on a book entitled, "Wild Thing." At 61, she still is.

Brenda, did your co-worker say, "G-day," too? Love that one.


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