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message 5051: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Lee wrote: "I think we'll be done for if I ever show her that movie. I'll never hear or see anything else again. :-)"

Now, what was your address again, Lee? (No, no, I'm not thinking of sending your daughter a movie.)


message 5052: by [deleted user] (new)

Don't worry Lee. You will watch it until it permeates every cell of your brain -- and then she'll find something new and forget all about it! We watched CATS every day for about six months going; we even saw it in London when she was five. She can't remember being there. lol


message 5053: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Susanna wrote: "Gundula wrote: "Jeannette wrote: "Wow, Gundula! I checked out Prism on iTunes and I am not surprised that I do no remember them! :p"

I cannot believe I actually used to listen to this, but hey, I..."


I did not like Jazz when I was younger, but I really love it now, and I also love "early music" and English country dancing music (like John Playford, I like anything by The Baltimore Consort or The Toronto Consort).


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 529 comments Same here. I also like to play strategy games set in the period and use my own music of the period rather than their soundtracks. Very immersive.


message 5055: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Lee wrote: "I think we'll be done for if I ever show her that movie. I'll never hear or see anything else again. :-)"

Lee, That's hilarious.


message 5056: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Susanna wrote: "Same here. I also like to play strategy games set in the period and use my own music of the period rather than their soundtracks. Very immersive."

That sounds fun ...


message 5057: by Lee, Mod Mama (new)

Lee (leekat) | 3959 comments Mod
Jeannette wrote: "Don't worry Lee. You will watch it until it permeates every cell of your brain -- and then she'll find something new and forget all about it! We watched CATS every day for about six months going;..."

Whew! I had forgotten how intensely kids can get into something for a period of time and then when they're done, they're done. I must remember not to worry, it's normal!


message 5058: by [deleted user] (new)

Lee wrote: Whew! I had forgotten how intensely kids can get into something for a period of time and then when they're done, they're done. I must remember not to worry, it's normal!
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Errrr.....I shouldn't mention my neice who has been obsessed with the Jonas Brothers for 3 years and going strong (and she's in high school....shouldn't this be done by now?). But pretend I didn't say that. I'm sure that is an exception. I won't bring up the fact that Emma hangs onto stuff for years and years...right, I won't mention that. Don't worry, Lee.


message 5059: by [deleted user] (new)

I won't speak those words aloud in my house! *shudder* And Bieber-boy, either.

Lea still reads one or two favorite books over-and-over, but she went through lots of long-running jags: months of Garfield, months of Calvin & Hobbes, re-reading all the Harry Potter books over-and-over. Now, with anime and manga being so diverse she turns them over pretty quickly! She has two currents faves, no make that three.... *hmmmm*


message 5060: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Jeannette wrote: "I won't speak those words aloud in my house! *shudder* And Bieber-boy, either.

Lea still reads one or two favorite books over-and-over, but she went through lots of long-running jags: months of G..."


We all do things like that, at least I know I do. I am rather obsessive about rereading my L.M. Montgomery books and LOTR (and, every time I rewatch Sense and Sensibility, I lust after Alan Rickman). I don't generally get obsessive about objects, but books, definitely.


message 5061: by [deleted user] (new)

Young children have a special way of being obsessed with books or movies, that outlasts an adult's tolerance levels. When we got the LotR videos, my daughter and I watched every one of the extra features on all 3 bonus discs and she looked for all of the Easter eggs, too. It was fun, but I passed on doing it a second time.

I re-read LotR once a year, such great books!


message 5062: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments So, I went out to eat with a couple of friends last night at Cheddar's. One of my friends ordered the shepherd's pie, and since she was talking about how good it was, I decided to give it a try. Well, I got choked on a onion straw that was topping the dish. I'm talking about choked, couldn't breathe or talk. One of my friends yelled out, "Does anyone know the Heimlich?" While 4 or 5 waiters/waitresses stood watching, a fellow diner came to my aid. I was finally able to cough up and pull out the food. Only after I was seated again did the floor manager come to see if I was okay. When I asked him why no restaurant personnel helped me, he informed me that the corporate policy was to be hands off, as a lawsuit might ensue if one of their employees hurt me during an aid attempt. I told him that there probably would have been a lawsuit if I'd died. What has our world come to? I did get a free meal (to take home, much too shaken to eat then) and got the gentleman's meal free that had helped me, both at my insistence, not their offer. I am now on a mission to inquire at any restaurant I eat at what their policy is on a patron choking. It was one scary experience!


message 5063: by [deleted user] (new)

I am glad you are okay, Kathy! I had to do the same for my mother, when she was choking on a piece of steak in a restaurant.

With everybody suing everybody these days, no one wants to come forward to help any more, do they? I'm glad that man in the restaurant was able to help you.


message 5064: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Jeannette wrote: "I am glad you are okay, Kathy! I had to do the same for my mother, when she was choking on a piece of steak in a restaurant.

With everybody suing everybody these days, no one wants to come forwar..."


Yes, I was very grateful for that man, as I'm sure your mother was for you. I guess we are just such a sue-happy society anymore that people are afraid to help their fellow man/woman. I just hate that we've come to that point.


message 5065: by [deleted user] (new)

Me, too, but I can see their point. If they had broken a rib or something, trying to aid you, you could sue for that! I mean, somebody sued because the coffee was hot at MacDonalds! And we all carry liability insurance in case somebody trips over our porch step. It is a sad way to live.

Still, I am very glad that you are all right. I would have helped you, too. Did you know that you can self-administer the Heimlich maneuver? You should learn how to do this.

http://www.heimlichinstitute.org/page...


message 5066: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Jeannette wrote: "Me, too, but I can see their point. If they had broken a rib or something, trying to aid you, you could sue for that! I mean, somebody sued because the coffee was hot at MacDonalds! And we all c..."

Wow, Kathy, I'm glad you ended up being alright. And, I cannot believe that the restaurant did nothing, the least they could have done was call 911 or ask if anyone in the restaurant was a doctor or knew the Heimlich Maneuver. But like Jeannette, I can sort of understand their reluctance, people seem very willing to sue for anything nowadays. I think there really needs to be some rules instated that prevent people from suing if, for instance, someone broke your ribs administering the Heimlich Maneuver (that is actually really common).


message 5067: by [deleted user] (new)

But then you would have to sign a release form every time you went to a restaurant. *sigh*

We just added the ability to view movies from Netflix through our Wii game console to the television. In the "Terms and Conditions" there is a section stating that I agree to release Nintendo from any responsibility for damages stemming from injury caused by watching a movie through the game console. Beats me how any one can get hurt watching my television, but there it is. I have agreed not to sue Nintendo.


message 5068: by [deleted user] (new)

Kathy wrote: "So, I went out to eat with a couple of friends last night at Cheddar's. One of my friends ordered the shepherd's pie, and since she was talking about how good it was, I decided to give it a try. ..."

Oh my!! And that policy is horrible! I am so glad that you are okay.


message 5069: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Jeannette wrote: "But then you would have to sign a release form every time you went to a restaurant. *sigh*

We just added the ability to view movies from Netflix through our Wii game console to the television. I..."


Gosh, maybe they think that you might try to hit the screen if the movie gets you angry and you'll sue for a damaged hand. But, I think Nintendo is just trying to cover their bases, I know that people have tried to sue them for epileptic seizures suffered during gaming sessions, so I guess I can understand them being careful.


message 5070: by [deleted user] (new)

Yes, the seizures warning comes up every time you start the box. Plus, there is a safety strap, because you do tend to fling the controller when you are in a heated tennis match. You should have seen the scolding my husband got when he ski-jumped on the balance board and hit is head on the ceiling fan! That was a funny moment! lol (He and the fan were both okay)


message 5071: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Jeannette wrote: "Yes, the seizures warning comes up every time you start the box. Plus, there is a safety strap, because you do tend to fling the controller when you are in a heated tennis match. You should have ..."

You don't have any pictures of that, do you?? That would have been funny to see. But, I'm glad that there was no damage.


message 5072: by [deleted user] (new)

A video would have been great We are all glad that he didn't damage the board. It is really hard to jump and keep your feet on the board. You really do want to go airborne.


message 5073: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Okay everybody, Help! I'll check for an Oprah thread but I don't remember one. I think it was in this thread.

I know we were talking about how Oprah was going to have the entire cast of The Sound of Music on her show, and I'd heard it was the 29th, this Friday. I just got an email saying it's tomorrow, the 28th, Thursday. So, I want to let everyone know. I know one person to pm but I want to alert all interested. I'd have been extremely disappointed to have missed that!!!


message 5074: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (last edited Oct 27, 2010 11:21AM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 529 comments Yeah, I know seizures have been a problem with some people and 3D sets in particular.


message 5075: by Maude (new)

Maude | 479 comments Kathy, I am shocked that the restaurant had mode no provisions for helping a patron who was choking. I believe that all restaurants should have to teach the Heimlich maneuver to all employees. To stand by and watch someone who could or would have died without assistance, is being an accessory to murder. BTW, if it ever happens again and you are alone, try and fall against something - but make sure it is no too sharp as you then have another problem. Better yet, take a class with your husband and don't go out to eat without him!


message 5076: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Maude wrote: "Kathy, I am shocked that the restaurant had mode no provisions for helping a patron who was choking. I believe that all restaurants should have to teach the Heimlich maneuver to all employees. To..."

Several other friends have reminded me about doing the Heimlich myself over the back of a chair. Somewhere in my mind I knew that, but I just wasn't thinking clearly. I just thought that OSHA or somebody like that would require personnel to be trained in life-saving techniques. Maybe they are only allowed to save each other. I don't think I could stand by and see someone in a life or death situation and not do something. But, as others have stated, it is the society in which we live. Oh, my mother-in-law told me that she has heimliched herself a couple of times when she was by herself. Now, that would be even scarier, to be by yourself and get choked.


message 5077: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Jeannette wrote: "Me, too, but I can see their point. If they had broken a rib or something, trying to aid you, you could sue for that! I mean, somebody sued because the coffee was hot at MacDonalds! And we all c..."

Yeah, I think we all owe a disgruntled growl to the McDonald's coffee person. I am going to pass on the link you've listed to my friends that I go to dinner with. LOL! But, seriously, I am going to pass it on. Thanks, Jeannette.


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (susannag) | 529 comments This is why states need Good Samaritan laws to allow this kind of assistance without people running the risk of getting sued.


message 5079: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Susanna wrote: "This is why states need Good Samaritan laws to allow this kind of assistance without people running the risk of getting sued."

Good idea, I think many European countries have these.


message 5080: by Maude (new)

Maude | 479 comments Kathy, I just reread your post and really wonder what this world is coming too. Why are people so scared of being sued that they could stand by and see someone potentially die. Send your employees to a class and teach them how to do it. There is no way I would stand by and see someone choking without trying to help - but then again, I am a retired RN which is probably why this makes me so mad. Every single person should be taught first aid and what to do in the above situation.


message 5081: by Maude (new)

Maude | 479 comments Kathy, I just reread your post and really wonder what this world is coming too. Why are people so scared of being sued that they could stand by and see someone potentially die. Send your employees to a class and teach them how to do it. There is no way I would stand by and see someone choking without trying to help - but then again, I am a retired RN which is probably why this makes me so mad. Every single person should be taught first aid and what to do in the above situation.


message 5082: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) I have a license that requires me to try to help but even before then I would. Many kids know how to handle such a situation. I agree that everyone 18 + up and preferably 14 + up should be trained to do first aid and CPR. Certainly employers should teach ALL restaurant employees how to handle choking incidents. They're not that rare.


message 5083: by [deleted user] (new)

You know, Kathy, why don't you write to corporate headquarters about your experience in this restaurant. If this is company policy, than they are the ones that you should complain to! If it isn't corporate policy, then someone should tell them how that manager handled the situation. Maybe it will wake somebody up to what a misguided policy this is.


message 5084: by Kathy (last edited Oct 28, 2010 07:49AM) (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Jeannette wrote: "You know, Kathy, why don't you write to corporate headquarters about your experience in this restaurant. If this is company policy, than they are the ones that you should complain to! If it isn't..."

Good idea, Jeannette. I will do that. I'll let you all know if I ever receive an answer.


message 5085: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Kathy, I hope they are properly contrite and offer sincere apologies, etc. Jeannette, that is a good idea.


message 5086: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments On a brighter note today, I had my new flooring installed yesterday in my dining room and love it. I went with laminate and think it's going to be wonderful. It completely changes the look of the room. Goodbye old yucky carpet that was down there! Of course, now I look at my other rooms and see how badly they need something done. LOL! I will have to wait until my husband knows something definite about his work situation before we do more. I substitute teach, but it's very part-time. Right now, we're not sure if he's staying in the Army or not. I'm not too worried, as he has several options, but it would be better if the Army job continues for at least a few more months.

Everyone have a great day today! I'm on a "be positive" mission today. LOL!


message 5087: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks In Germany and in Switzerland, you actually have to take a first aid course in order to get your drivers' license, because by law, if you come upon an accident, you are required to give assistance.


message 5088: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Gundula, What a wonderful idea. I wish that the U.S. and Canada had that law.


message 5089: by Kathy (new)

Kathy  (readr4ever) | 1853 comments Gundula wrote: "In Germany and in Switzerland, you actually have to take a first aid course in order to get your drivers' license, because by law, if you come upon an accident, you are required to give assistance."

Sounds like a great requirement!


message 5090: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Lisa wrote: "Gundula, What a wonderful idea. I wish that the U.S. and Canada had that law."

I like the idea, but in Europe, it is also not as easy to sue. One of the problems in Canada and the US is that people are so eager to sue, so a person giving first aid, or attempting to give first aid might be in danger of being sued by the victim or the victim's family if things go wrong. If Canada and the US were to implement such a law, there would have to be some sort of protection from most forms of liability, in my opinion. But, I do think that it would be a good idea to mandate that everyone attempting his/her license also passes a standard first aid course (I should take one, I took one years ago and remember nothing).


message 5091: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) U.S. does have protection. We have what is called the good citizen law and people are protected, especially if they were trained within the proper period of time for what they are doing. Unless people do something "wrong" or reckless they are relatively well protected.

The lawsuits situation has gone crazy!!!


message 5092: by [deleted user] (new)

Congrats on the flooring, Kathy! I want to get rid of my carpet, too.

In the US, in particular, you will never mandate that people must administer first aid. Heck, people don't usually stop for an accident as it is. People will either do so because it is in their nature, or they won't, regardless of regulation. It would be nice if everyone in high school got a basic first aid class.


message 5093: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Lisa wrote: "U.S. does have protection. We have what is called the good citizen law and people are protected, especially if they were trained within the proper period of time for what they are doing. Unless peo..."

Also, frivolous lawsuits trivialise legitimate cases of negligence as people often tend to not take any lawsuits seriously anymore.


message 5094: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) I agree, Gundula.


message 5095: by Joy (new)

Joy | 314 comments Change of subject - I am really getting annoyed with all the negative political ads on TV, flyers in the mail and robo calls! Just wanted to get that off my chest! Good thing election day is next week...:D


message 5096: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) Joy, I agree. I'm extra annoyed at ads in my mailbox and automated phone calls, especially given that I turned in my ballot Tuesday of last week. The tv ads I'm doing a fairly good job at tuning out, as I do with most ads.


message 5097: by Manybooks (new)

Manybooks Joy wrote: "Change of subject - I am really getting annoyed with all the negative political ads on TV, flyers in the mail and robo calls! Just wanted to get that off my chest! Good thing election day is next ..."

I think adds, especially negative adds often have the opposite effect. The more negative adds I see, the more I want to vote for the other party (well, as an immigrant to Canada, I cannot vote anyhow, but that is how I feel).


message 5098: by Brenda (new)

Brenda | 286 comments I tend to skip the negative adds on TV but I really get tired of the automated phone calls that clog up my answering machine. I guess they can still leave messages even if you are on a do not call list.


message 5099: by Lee, Mod Mama (new)

Lee (leekat) | 3959 comments Mod
Gundula, why can't you vote? My husband votes and he's an immigrant. Do you not have Canadian citizenship?


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I'm heading to the kitchen to perform a few pumpkin lobotomies!


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