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message 401: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
But not "The Big Sleep," thank you. We'd like to keep Ruth around for a few more decades.


message 402: by M (new)

M | 113 comments Sleep well, Ruth, and have complicated dreams, which we will analyze in the morning! (Dr. Brulov says something like that to his former student, Constance Peterson, in an old movie called Spellbound.)


message 403: by M (new)

M | 113 comments Hi, Ruth! Just thought I'd stop by. I have nothing interesting to relate. I'm doing laundry.


message 404: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
That's nice. My hub does laundry too. I do the marketing and cooking. He takes out the trash. I make the bed. He empties the dishwasher.

He leaves on the lights. I turn them off. I leave magazines and hamburger wrappers in the back seat of the car. He takes them out.

Neither of us washes the car.


message 405: by Carol (last edited Oct 05, 2010 05:58PM) (new)

Carol | 10410 comments So your car got washed today in the rain huh? It is suppose to rain tomorrow also, so throw some soap on the car .


message 406: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
No can do in San Clemente. You wanna use soap, you go to the carwash or get cited.

The gutters all drain to the ocean.


message 407: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Same here. What was I thinking, apparently not much synapse going on in my brain.


message 408: by M (new)

M | 113 comments Here you can use all the soap you want to wash your car. I don't know where it goes. I guess it runs into the creeks. The creeks run into the rivers. The rivers run into the lakes that supply water to Houston and Beaumont. The drinking water in cities tastes so bad, though, that they don't know the difference.


message 409: by Savvy (new)

Savvy  (savvysuzdolcefarniente) | 1458 comments Here we can use all the soap we want as well...but we use very little and our water comes from a well...an aquifer that tastes so fresh... I cal it de-water (delsih water!)

I think Americans in general overuse soaps.

I just heard today that we export 80% of our produce (Yes...we are the Bread Basket of the World!)...but we have to import 80% of our fish products because the agricultural chemicals, fertilizers, etc used on our produce work their way into our waters and pollute them so badly that we can't eat our own fish!
Vertical Farming...perhaps the future?

http://www.amazon.com/Vertical-Farm-F...


message 410: by M (new)

M | 113 comments Our seafood is great! No need to sautee Gulf shrimp. They come coated in crude oil.


message 411: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
My poem "Imaging the Heart" appears in the latest issue of Blood and Thunder, published by Univ of Oklahoma School of Medicine.


message 412: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Huzzah! Our (real) Poet Laureate scores yet again!


message 413: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Whoopy! Congratulations on a job well done.


message 414: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Thanks, Kitty and NE. I haven't submitted anything since last June. I need to get my act together.


message 415: by M (new)

M | 113 comments That's interesting, Ruth! I've read hundreds of medical journals, but it sounds as though this may be something specifically creative--unlike, for example, the Journal of the American Medical Association or the American Academy of Pediatrics journal, both of which feature poetry by doctors, but merely as an insignificant side feature.


message 416: by Ruth (last edited Nov 04, 2010 05:13PM) (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
No it's not a medical journal at all. Just art and poetry. I suspect it's the school's effort to not turn out one-sided doctors.

Are you a doctor, M? The Y chromosome in this house is a retired obgyn.


message 417: by M (last edited Nov 04, 2010 05:21PM) (new)

M | 113 comments No, my wife is. We own a medical corporation that until recently operated a medical clinic. She stayed so busy that, when I wasn't paying bills, hiring or firing staff, or working on my short stories, I read her journals, marking articles she specified in advance might be critical for her to read. I was trained to do literary research and used to do it for a living, so reading the medical journals of a med/peds doctor was an odd, but not entirely unfamiliar, task. I did it for ten years.


message 418: by Savvy (new)

Savvy  (savvysuzdolcefarniente) | 1458 comments Sounds great Ruth!

Can't wait to read it when you are free to post.

My dad, a doctor, was also quite the poet! But he got those letters of which NE spoke...nice try, but not quite there!

But my grandpa on mom's side acually published a small book of poems.


message 419: by M (new)

M | 113 comments Ah, Ruth, you're married to a gynecologist! No wonder you have the view you do!


message 420: by MollyRena (new)

MollyRena hi


message 421: by M (new)

M | 113 comments Hi, Molly. Don't mind me. Just imagine I have a lampshade over my head.


message 422: by MollyRena (new)

MollyRena um ok than.... so what are we talking about people?


message 423: by MollyRena (new)

MollyRena um ok than ...why? ya know what never mined i'm just as werd..... so now what are we talking about i here? :)


message 424: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
M wrote: "Ah, Ruth, you're married to a gynecologist! No wonder you have the view you do!"

Retired now for 20 years. He worked damned hard. Just last night we were looking at the view and musing about how lucky we are, when I told him "That's your reward for all those nights you pulled yourself out of bed at 2 in the morning and hauled ass down to the hospital."


message 425: by MollyRena (new)

MollyRena cool!!


message 426: by M (new)

M | 113 comments I've never known anyone who works as hard as doctors do. My wife was on labor-and-delivery call 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for years, and saw patients all day on top of it. She went for nine years without a vacation. The American public doesn't know how good they have it, but they're going to find out the hard way when they wind up with the kind of medical care people take for granted in Europe.


message 427: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Ah yes, she had to show up to catch the baby from the obs, huh. My husband kept similar hours. He was in solo practice, so his beeper was welded to his hip. All those interrupted dinners and xmases and birthdays...


message 428: by Scribble (new)

Scribble Orca (scribbleorca) | 631 comments M wrote: "The American public doesn't know how good they have it, but they're going to find out the hard way when they wind up with the kind of medical care people take for granted in Europe."

M, that demands an intrusion in Ruth's demesne (begging your leave, milady). The standards of medical care on the continent are as varied as the number of countries constituting the EU. NB: I've deliberately excluded that little island off to the west.


message 429: by M (new)

M | 113 comments I keep promising myself that when my eyelids start getting heavy I'll sign out before I have a chance to type things that are bound to embarrass me the next morning. You're right, GN.

Do the English historically consider themselves Europeans?


message 430: by Scribble (new)

Scribble Orca (scribbleorca) | 631 comments M wrote: "Do the English historically consider themselves Europeans?"

Oh...at the risk of inciting infamy and mayhem, I'd say, "NO", in general. There are, however, always exceptions to the rule.

As to signing out, dear M, don't do that. That's when your posts start to become most...enlightening! :D


message 431: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
How about changing the subject from medicine to cats? A friend has posted one of my previously published poems in her blog.

http://sherrychandler.com/2010/11/05/...


message 432: by Scribble (new)

Scribble Orca (scribbleorca) | 631 comments Congratulations on the publication, Ruth. Gabi has some lovely cat photos in her thread, as well. I wonder if they would also inspire you.


message 433: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Thanks, GN. The poem isn't really about cats, tho. It's more about life and aging.

This poem was published earlier in Tar River, a journal I was really pleased to get into. Once a poem is published then I can let it get out onto the internet.


message 434: by Scribble (new)

Scribble Orca (scribbleorca) | 631 comments The poem preceded the picture...I see. I had a very strong sense of the movement of the cat in the last lines...

You have to wait until it's picked up before posting it? Copyright issues?


message 435: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
The picture is of Sherry Chandler, whose blog my poem is on. I'd never even seen that picture until today.

But oh yes, that cat in the last lines was real. I used to see it out my kitchen window. It was not the motivation for the poem, though. That was the old guy, and my thoughts about aging.

No copyright issues. I hold the copyright to my own work, of course. But posting something on the open internet is considered publishing. Almost all poetry journals will not publish previously published work. Therefore I never post work until after it's been well and truly published.


message 436: by M (last edited Nov 05, 2010 04:33PM) (new)

M | 113 comments Ruth, your advice about using concrete images when writing poetry leaves me with the feeling that you've left something important unsaid. How can concrete images, however indispensible as agents of communication, be a worthwhile end in themselves? Mustn't they be intuitively chosen so that, through symbolism and contextual implication, they convey far more than the named image? How else is one to communicate a profound experience in a few words--something impossible to accomplish using abstractions?

Obviously, not all or even most image words used in a poem should be charged with deeper meaning, but it seems to me that in successful poems, a higher proportion of them are.

I realize this is probably the wrong group to post this in, but it's meant merely as an impression, not an argument.


message 437: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Mustn't they be intuitively chosen so that, through symbolism and contextual implication, they convey far more than the named image? How else is one to communicate a profound experience in a few words--something impossible to accomplish using abstractions?

Bingo, M. You've answered your own question.


message 438: by Ruth (last edited Nov 11, 2010 10:40PM) (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
I have just ordered and paid for

1. new contacts
2. new trifocals to wear over contacts
3. new trifocals to wear without contacts
4. new computer glasses
...
Help, my plastic is melting.


message 439: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
At least you can see us better. I just got a rejection letter from a poetry magazine that was not a form e-mail. It said we're sorry but we enjoyed it (I don't get THAT!!!) and please send us more.

I've no clue if this means they're softened up or if this means nothing.


message 440: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Maybe they thought it was not something the public would like . That is strange wording.


message 441: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
That's not the exact wording.


message 442: by Debbie, sardonic princess of cheerfulness (new)

Debbie (sardonicprincessofcheerfulness) | 6389 comments Mod
It means they like your work but THAT one didn't quite suit their publication or readership. Keep sending them stuff!


message 443: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Newengland wrote: "At least you can see us better. I just got a rejection letter from a poetry magazine that was not a form e-mail. It said we're sorry but we enjoyed it (I don't get THAT!!!) and please send us mor..."

It means you came close. Send them more. And remind them about the note.


message 444: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Good morning gracious lady. How are you this fine sunny morning? The sky is blue and the air is brisk. My house is so cold. Hope your poetry writing is clipping along. Thanks for all the sharing.

C


message 445: by Ken, Moderator (new)

Ken | 18714 comments Mod
Merry Christmas Gracious Lady, indeed. The Artful One, the Muse, the Poet Laureate of L&G (among other credits).


message 446: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
Happy merry to you all. Gracious lady? You make me smile. I'm loud and talkative and wave my hands around too much.


message 447: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments That's the Italian way (hand waving)


message 448: by Scribble (new)

Scribble Orca (scribbleorca) | 631 comments Happy New Year, and many more to follow.


message 449: by Ruth (new)

Ruth | 16546 comments Mod
I had a great weekend. Our 2nd-to-youngest turned 50, and I baked an orange almond cake with chocolate icing, Chiron Review took two of my poems, and I sold two of the little visual poetry art pieces.

I'm not regretting my decision to sell those pieces at very reasonable a price. Since they're small and fairly quick to do, and I'm no longer with a gallery I don't have to pay the standard 50% commission, plus I decided that I'd rather see these pieces out in the world than languishing in my studio where nobody sees them.


message 450: by Carol (new)

Carol | 10410 comments Ruth congratulations for all three accomplishments. Daughter being first and foremost .


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