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message 1: by Mutt (new)

Mutt | 98 comments I've been wandering around a few places for a while trying to figure out how the hell SMeyer managed to justify the whole "vampire baby" thing. After reading a little, it occurred to me that she f*cked up royally.

She described the logic behind the vampire spawn as being something akin to a cambion. The problem is that a Cambion is created when:

A succubus (that is to say the female of this particular brand of demon) will have sexual relations with a human male and by doing so acquire a sample of his sperm. This she will then pass on to an incubus. The incubus will, in his turn, transfer the sperm to a human female and thus impregnate her.

The only places to connect succubii and incubii to vampires have been bad occultists and role playing games makling some very big assumptions. The incubus/succubus are not vampires. They're a different kind of demon entirely. There's something else that occurred to me.

In order for Bella to get pregnant, Edward needs to get his sparkle on with a succubus. So either Edward isn't a vampire, he lied to Bella about his pimp vampy action, or SMeyer dropped the ball here.



message 2: by Anna (new)

Anna (seafoamfizzies) Oh yeah, Meyer totally effed up.

Plus, if Edward is a vampire that means he's technically dead. Which means his sperm is technically dead and he technically can't reproduce. Or technically get an erection. -_-;


message 3: by Geneva (new)

Geneva (ggpet) Me and my friends were discussing something like this in school, your right she really effed up I think that's what annoyed me most. My friend said something like how if Edward is dead and he managed to have sexy time with Bella does that mean he has a permanent erection seeing as their bodies never change xD


message 4: by Anna (new)

Anna (seafoamfizzies) Oh, that's a good point. Maybe Edward just has a perma-erection. XD


message 5: by [deleted user] (new)

I HATE RENESME IT'S SO MESSED UP
I PRETEND BREAKING DAWN DIDN'T HAPPEN
I HATE IT
IT'S SO F-D UP


message 6: by Mutt (new)

Mutt | 98 comments If he's effectively dead, then he shouldn't be moving at all, so I'm not making the "no sperm" call. What I will say is that the reason for SMeyer claiming that the pregnancy being viable is bull. Also, considering how strong Edward is, the moment of ejaculation should hit Bella like a shotgun blast to the vagina.

In regards to a child resulting from this abominable act of paedophilic bestiality:

Traditional Vampire Canon says no.

Demonology says no.

Common sense says no.

I say hell no.


message 7: by [deleted user] (new)

HAHAHAHA

"A SHOTGUN BLAST TO THE VAGINA!"



message 8: by Geneva (new)

Geneva (ggpet) Lmaoo xD


message 9: by Anna (last edited Dec 04, 2009 08:08AM) (new)

Anna (seafoamfizzies) Mutt wrote: "Also, considering how strong Edward is, the moment of ejaculation should hit Bella like a shotgun blast to the vagina."

OMG. I super hardcore lol'd. XD You, Mutt my friend, are officially my best friend. :D


message 10: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments Mutt wrote: "If he's effectively dead, then he shouldn't be moving at all, so I'm not making the "no sperm" call. What I will say is that the reason for SMeyer claiming that the pregnancy being viable is bull. ..."

No freaking way, says Mutt.
No freaking way, says Sisi.
No freaking way, says Sisi and Mutt.

Dontcha just love childrens storybooks?


message 11: by Vivi (new)

Vivi | 199 comments uh...no


message 12: by Sheeky (new)

Sheeky (sheekster) | 169 comments Mutt wrote: "If he's effectively dead, then he shouldn't be moving at all, so I'm not making the "no sperm" call. What I will say is that the reason for SMeyer claiming that the pregnancy being viable is bull. ..."

LMAO!!!!!!!!!


message 13: by Mutt (new)

Mutt | 98 comments That don't mean that I can't reflect on my own thoughts. I do that on occasion...


message 14: by Morgan (new)

Morgan | 3 comments Ahhhhh hahaha.
Even if Bella could have gotten pregnant by Edward, it's still really nasty, I mean Edward is old enough to be her grandfather (I think.) That makes me wonder, could Edward even have gotten Bella prego, because if he's really that old, wouldn't there at least be something with his sperm?


message 15: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments Great grandfather, actually.
And yeah.


message 16: by Simona-- (new)

Simona-- I'm kind of intense  (completelyinsane) | 806 comments Rose wrote: "Okay, let's put it at this before it goes off to become just one long post filled with "great great great great etc."
Edward's OOOOOOOOOOOOLD!!!
And Bella's underage.
Done and done!
EW! XD"


Too late!
GREAT INFINITY!! AAAHHH!
IT HAS BEGUN... and ended because of Rose. Thanks. grr.


message 17: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments THANK'S A LOT!!!!!

P.S. Sarcasm


message 18: by Aoitanuki (new)

Aoitanuki | 155 comments My older sisters and I have contemplated this. My only conclusion is that Bella time-travelled back and stole some sperm from the sick Edward wracked with influenza and took it back in a jar.


message 19: by [deleted user] (new)

so what did she do give him a hand job until he dumped his load into her "jar"?


message 20: by Aoitanuki (new)

Aoitanuki | 155 comments Ambizzle wrote: "so what did she do give him a hand job until he dumped his load into her "jar"?"

ewwww!!---Yeah probably.


message 21: by Aoitanuki (new)

Aoitanuki | 155 comments Or maybe Carlisle did it whilst snogging his neck - oops, sorry, I meant TURNING HIM INTO A VAMPIRE. -_-


message 22: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments WELL, THAT'S NOT DISGUSTING AT ALL, RIGHT? *EW*


message 23: by Sheeky (new)

Sheeky (sheekster) | 169 comments o_O


message 24: by Vivi (new)

Vivi | 199 comments i got goose bumps


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

because she wanted to sound smart by making it seem like a vampire pregnancy was even possible
but basically all she did was just make it worse


message 26: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 yeah totally. i don't even think its possible for Edward and Bella to kiss without the latter melting like being drowned in acid, let alone have sex.


message 27: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW. I may have to stop reading this topic from now on. Baaaaad mental images. Eeeewwww. o_O


Olivia ^^The Awesome Mushroom^^ (canttaketheawesomeness) | 756 comments Umm...I agree with Nightshade.


message 29: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments Yeah, seriously, if my fantasy series defied many laws of physics, I would say "It's fantasy peeps, I'm not a doctor, If you don't like it, don't read it, it's your own fault for getting all science on me."

BURN



message 30: by Ain020596 (last edited Dec 16, 2009 12:57AM) (new)

Ain020596 If my fantasy defied ALL LAWS, i'll keep it in my head, for God's sake. I would spare hundreds of people the illogical crap.


message 31: by Ain020596 (new)

Ain020596 Nightshade wrote: "EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW. I may have to stop reading this topic from now on. Baaaaad mental images. Eeeewwww. o_O"

I have to agree. The Pelvic thrust of Death made me nauseous.


message 32: by Aoitanuki (new)

Aoitanuki | 155 comments Ain020596 wrote: "yeah totally. i don't even think its possible for Edward and Bella to kiss without the latter melting like being drowned in acid, let alone have sex."

Hmm...you have a point there.


message 33: by Aoitanuki (new)

Aoitanuki | 155 comments Ain020596 wrote: "Nightshade wrote: "EEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWWW. I may have to stop reading this topic from now on. Baaaaad mental images. Eeeewwww. o_O"

I have to agree. The Pelvic thrust of Death made me nauseous."


Really? Well it sounds like that guy from (creepiest book I ever read, don't even try) Exquisite Corpse by P.Z.Brite...


message 34: by Aoitanuki (new)

Aoitanuki | 155 comments *shudders so violently there is an earthquake*


message 35: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments AHH EARTHQUAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


message 36: by ~Perisi Kitty~ (new)

~Perisi Kitty~ . (haikudancer) | 72 comments I don't think vampires can have children.


message 38: by ~Perisi Kitty~ (new)

~Perisi Kitty~ . (haikudancer) | 72 comments I mean even Sims2 creators know that!


message 39: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I am so confused........ when Edward died he should have stopped producing sperm, so no chilies... and Bella should have DIED when they had sex... and she probably should have slapped him too.


message 42: by ~Perisi Kitty~ (new)

~Perisi Kitty~ . (haikudancer) | 72 comments hehe!

Sims2 is awesum!


message 43: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments Haha, oh I need to get that game.


message 44: by ~Perisi Kitty~ (new)

~Perisi Kitty~ . (haikudancer) | 72 comments you should!


message 45: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I really need to get some new games, I've beaten all of mine except Okami that I just got, but I'm almost done with that too. And my search for the Tales of games is proving to be very fruitless.


message 46: by ~Perisi Kitty~ (new)

~Perisi Kitty~ . (haikudancer) | 72 comments same, I kind of neglected my sims2.


message 47: by Nightshade (new)

Nightshade | 1257 comments I don't have Sims 2 but I really want it :(


message 48: by Rose (new)

Rose (iceclaw) | 2069 comments I still got no answers... but whatevers. Really, I don't get any present for MY good grades except we get to go to my expensive favorite restaurant. I know people that get a hundred bucks every A, seventy-five for a B, and fifty for a B.

I don't even have a PS2, but I have been looking everywhere for this PS2 game.


message 49: by ~Perisi Kitty~ (new)

~Perisi Kitty~ . (haikudancer) | 72 comments Same, I don't get money for my hard labour. all I get is a 'well done.' ja.

My friend gets like 200 bucks for every 'A' she gets in exams which is pretty cool.


message 50: by I*rule*all (new)

I*rule*all  (iruleall) | 776 comments None really can, not to what I remember.


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