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What do we think about the ending with Rhysand? [Spoilers]

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message 1351: by Crystal (new) - rated it 5 stars

Crystal Cierlak I caved and read it, but only the parts with Rhysand. I do think it's interesting that Tamlin just let her go, that he acquiesced without more of a fight. God I can't wait for this book to come out. Please hurry, May 3rd!


message 1352: by Amber (new) - rated it 4 stars

Amber Is there a way of seeing the extra chapter without going on ibooks because it isn't working for me and I'm dying a bit inside, I need to see it so bad


message 1353: by Hannah (last edited Apr 20, 2016 09:52AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hannah @Laura I wouldn't go as far to say that Amanthra and Feyre's mother are similar. Maas didn't provide much information about Feyre's mom other then that she was sick...I don't think asking your daughter to keep family ties equals evil dictator who tortures others.


message 1354: by Chisom (last edited Apr 20, 2016 09:48AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Chisom Wait i don't have a freaking Iphone! How can i read it without an ios?!


message 1355: by Diana (last edited Apr 20, 2016 10:19AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Diana For everyone not having an IPhone here are chapters 4-5.

http://highfae-of-brooklyn.tumblr.com...

Chapters 1-3(posted before)
http://acomafspoilers.tumblr.com/post...


Chisom oh my gosh thank you so much! i love you!


message 1357: by Amber (new) - rated it 4 stars

Amber Yay thank you for posting this I was actually so sad with everyone talking about it haha


message 1358: by Melanie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Melanie I can only guess why Ianthe kept the other Priestesses away.
Maybe as a Priestess you can smell who is mated with whom.
Therefore, Ianthe can smell that Feyre is Rhys' mate so she kept the others away, because she's afraid that the other Priestess might say: Wait, isn't she supposed to be the mate of the other High Lord, because his scent is on her?

Also another thought: Will the mate bond vanish if the mate marries someone else. Maybe that's why Ianthe wants to rush the wedding ceremony to be over.


message 1359: by Diana (new) - rated it 5 stars

Diana @Chisom @Amber you're very welcome! :)


message 1360: by WinterRose (last edited Apr 20, 2016 12:08PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

WinterRose (I just saw all these so I'm responding as I go down the list. Sorry if someone else comments on this before me lol.)

I was actually expecting Tamlin to be a little more difficult to persuade. Not that he could do much but he settled quite easily.
I'm not too surprised given Tamlin's past reactions to Rhysand--to submit. When Rhys shows up during lunch, Tamlin just stands there as Rhys reads Feyre's thoughts. He gets snarly for a moment but nothing more than that. He never actually makes a move against Rhys. Under the mountain, when Rhys reprimands him during the make out scene, he listens and just leaves. No fight there either.

This could be because he fears Rhysand, but also because they most likely had a past relationship where Tamlin looked up to Rhys in some way. A mentor/student role, somewhat. So the student just naturally doesn't rise up against their mentor. Also, Rhys mentioned a consequence to trying to break a bargain--that most likely played into it too.

Now I won't be surprised ifTamlin's rage works itself up for him to eventually go for Rhys. But so far, he always submits.

It did crack me up how scared shitless everyone was of Rhys though, haha. Ianthe was outta there. And what a bitch for choosing those red roses when Feyre specifically said no red. She's definitely up to no good and I think Feyre even has drawbacks of her, acknowledging how clever and ambitious she is.

(Can we appreciate that the first time Feyre speak's Rhysand's name it's kind of to defend him?)


TheBookie Okay I know this is asking for a lot but can someone I don't know copy and paste the book into notes and post it? My phone is refusing to open up tumblr not the app or the site!


message 1362: by aqsa (last edited Apr 20, 2016 01:12PM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

aqsa TheBookie16 wrote: "Okay I know this is asking for a lot but can someone I don't know copy and paste the book into notes and post it? My phone is refusing to open up tumblr not the app or the site!"

Here is the doc: http://www18.zippyshare.com/v/8DuRxY8...

I think I forgot the beginning of the chapter but it's just Feyre describing a party and standing with Ianthe till two guys approach them.


TheBookie @Aqua
Oh my gosh bless you!!!!


message 1364: by WinterRose (last edited Apr 20, 2016 03:47PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

WinterRose Couple of things I forgot to add.

We know Tamlin constantly kept his own glamour up, even after Feyre is High Fae. He lets it show a little more at the wedding. Which makes me wonder....does Rhysand have this glamour too? What will Feyre do when he drops it? She already thinks he's the most handsome man she's ever seen. And if he can be all glowy and shiny and flawless like Tamlin, I think Feyre's reaction will be priceless.

Also, some things I noticed on the ibooks preview. It's broken down into three parts:

Part 1 The House of Beasts
Part 2 The House of Wind
Part 3 The House of Mist


message 1365: by Crystal (new) - rated it 5 stars

Crystal Cierlak WinterRose wrote: "Couple of things I forgot to add.

We know Tamlin constantly kept his own glamour up, even after Feyre is High Fae. He lets it show a little more at the wedding. Which makes me wonder....does Rhysa..."


Ooh, maybe that's when she'll finally feel the full brunt of the mate bond? When he drops his glamor? Maybe he doesn't it unaware she's watching him and she gets blasted with it..... (let me dream)


Souffle98 "To the stars who listen--and the dreams that are answered"

At the dedication, Sarah talks about the dream court? Maybe this is where Feyre rules as High Lady??? It would go with Rhys' Night Court/Nightmare Court, and there's all this talk about Feyre having powers that make her glow too?


message 1367: by Beela (new)

Beela I believe that because Feyre is human she doesn't think much about the being able to switch between bodies; however, for Rhysand it has a much deeper meaning. I think that he switched to her mind, and that's why he was shocked at the end. I don't believe they are "mates" but I do believe that they're linked in a way that wasn't intended. I also think that Rhysand is falling for Feyre, telling her about the wings confirmed that for me. Tamlin won't let her go easily, though. And Nesta and Lucien all the way.


WinterRose Maybe the nightmare court BECOMES the dream court. Like it was originally a dream court but something went wrong and now it's all nightmare-ish, haha. Or maybe that one place that Rhys said they kept secret is a dream court. Either way, I bet Rhys and Feyre will rule over them all in the end.


message 1369: by Hannah (last edited Apr 20, 2016 07:10PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hannah Aw it would be really sweet if Feyre ruled over the dream court (if that's a thing). I can picture her painting and her paintings coming to life and becoming a part of the dream realm. In my head I imagine Feyre having starlight powers. It would fit since in one of the spoilers it talks about Feyre glowing. Also with Rhys having darkness powers it would balance him nicely.


Chisom Curlygirly wrote: "Aw it would be really sweet if Feyre ruled over the dream court (if that's a thing). I can picture her painting and her paintings coming to life and becoming a part of the dream realm. In my head I..."

WOW this sounds so perfect!


message 1371: by SP (new) - rated it 5 stars

SP I read the spoilers and I don't get (view spoiler) Does he not have an idea about how broken she is or barely noticed how she does not seem to laugh anymore?

Thank goodness at Rhys for the rescue! That's such a dramatic entrance and hilarious at the same time. :D

I think this book will be about Feyre rediscovering herself.

BTW any thoughts on whether Feyre will end up cheating on Tamlin or do you think there will be no action between her and Rhys at all? *sigh* The life of a shipper sure is hard. :(


message 1372: by Vinnie (new) - rated it 3 stars

Vinnie I think her heart will cheat on him but, in terms of actual physical cheating, I don't think she's the type. She'd probably tell Rhys to wait until she's properly broken up with Tamlin to start anything physical.


message 1373: by Léna (new) - rated it 5 stars

Léna I think there might be unexpected passionate kisses and some touching (probably from Rhys, he seems quite the tactile type ), taunting and all but not anything truly physical until she's broken up with Tamlin.


message 1374: by Beela (new)

Beela I was reading the iBooks review and it said to expect some steamy sexual encounters so I don't think Maas will let us down with the Feyre and Rhysand action! ;)


message 1375: by Beela (new)

Beela I was reading the iBooks review and it said to expect some steamy sexual encounters so I don't think Maas will let us down with the Feyre and Rhysand action! ;)


message 1376: by Beela (new)

Beela I was reading the iBooks review and it said to expect some steamy sexual encounters so I don't think Maas will let us down with the Feyre and Rhysand action! ;)


message 1377: by Beela (new)

Beela I was reading the iBooks review and it said to expect some steamy sexual encounters so I don't think Maas will let us down with the Feyre and Rhysand action! ;)


message 1378: by Beela (new)

Beela Whoa, I didn't mean for that to get post 3 times??? Three times a charm I guess


message 1379: by Mirou (last edited Apr 21, 2016 04:05PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mirou By the way, did you check the map ?
I though "The Prison" was a place in the Spring Court but actually, it's in the night Court. I wonder what it is.


message 1380: by Melanie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Melanie Where can I find the map ? is it in the preview?


message 1381: by Hannah (last edited Apr 21, 2016 10:45AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hannah Vinnie wrote: "I think her heart will cheat on him but, in terms of actual physical cheating, I don't think she's the type. She'd probably tell Rhys to wait until she's properly broken up with Tamlin to start any..."

I can see Feyre falling for Rhys and then acting on her instincts without thinking too much about cheating on Tamlin in the moment. I'm not really against Feyre cheating on Tamlin since I never liked him to begin with so...

I picture Rhys being the one to tell Feyre to wait to break up with Tamlin before the two get more intimate. Actually now that I think about it I am not sure if Rhysand is mentally ready to be intimate in bed since he is messed up from being sexually abused by Amrantha. So it could be a possibility he could end up telling Feyre he isn't ready to do those sort of things yet. Who knows what will happen in the book. I hope Rhys and Feyre have steamy moments.

Tamlin will most likely react very badly and sh*t will go down. Probably the sort of sh*t that ends up hindering Feyre from other way more important problems (like the impending war between the Fae and humans). It's Tamlin's best quality-- being an obstacle in the way of things.


message 1382: by SP (new) - rated it 5 stars

SP I think Rhys isn't ready too. He has been tortured and abused by Amarantha for too long I guess. I do think it will be too early for Feyre to jump into bed with him anyway.

I just want lots of sexual tension and banter. Some kisses would do too.


Katrina♡•• I think that Feysand may get more physical and intimate coming up to the ending of book 3. As of right now, Feyre will be doubting herself about Rhys and will continue to push him away even if them being together feels right.


message 1384: by WinterRose (last edited Apr 21, 2016 11:40AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

WinterRose Léna wrote: "I think there might be unexpected passionate kisses and some touching (probably from Rhys, he seems quite the tactile type ), taunting and all but not anything truly physical until she's broken up ..."

I can also see Feyre (being confused and upset about everything) coming onto Rhys, and he turns her down. As we know, Feyre uses sex as a coping mechanism, an escape. I don't think Rhys will have sex with her if he thinks she's doing that. I think he'll turn her down and wait until her heart and head are in the right place.

I don't get [how dense Tamlin is for forcing Feyre into the wedding / letting her be forced when she is clearly not ready?

I'm not Tamlin's biggest fan, but to be fair, it's more obvious to us because we're in Feyre's head. I think everyone is thinking Feyre's distant behavior is likely due to what happened under the mountain, that she'll recover in time, etc. Not that she's having second thoughts about the wedding. Feyre was also never very...sociable to begin with. Or happy for the matter. Poor thing LET ME HUG YOU. lol

And personally, I don't think she was saying no to Tamlin per say, but no to that moment. She needed to get out of there, away from all those judging eyes and those red roses and in that moment, she couldn't marry him. (However, I think she will obviously say no to Tamlin himself, no to the way of life in the spring court, and want to be more than just "lady of the spring court.")


message 1385: by aqsa (last edited Apr 21, 2016 11:57AM) (new) - rated it 3 stars

aqsa Like Rose said-- Feyre might use sex to distract herself but Rhys wont have it and he'll wait till she is really ready. (A reviewer also mentioned how proper consent is shown in Acomaf)

To answer a bunch of the questions above: The same review also mentioned that "Feyre has tons of sexual encounters and Acomaf shows what great sex is like. Feyre is in a great relationship and happy place by the end of the book." With Rhys of course. (As the spoilers indicate)
So lol yes, there will be more than just kisses between Feyre and Rhys and they'll happen when both of them are ready and feel content with each other.
(view spoiler)

Sadly the reviewer took her review down from goodreads but you can find it on tumblr!

Edit: Here is the review for those interested in reading:

A Court of Mist and Fury by Sarah J. Maas
Publisher: Bloomsbury, May 2016
My rating: ★★★★★ (out of 5)
(view spoiler)



message 1386: by Beela (new)

Beela I am so excited !!!!!!!! Rhysand deserves to be happy!!!


message 1387: by Hannah (new) - rated it 4 stars

Hannah Aqsa wrote: "Like Rose said-- Feyre might use sex to distract herself but Rhys wont have it and he'll wait till she is really ready. (A reviewer also mentioned how proper consent is shown in Acomaf)

To answer ..."


What I need to read this tumblr post! Can you please share the link?


message 1388: by aqsa (new) - rated it 3 stars

aqsa Curlygirly wrote: "What I need to read this tumblr post! Can you please share the link? "

I edited my comment and posted the review!


message 1389: by Fatima (new) - rated it 5 stars

Fatima Bayram What is the dream court? Is there a map that I don't know about? Or is this in the more plot oriented spoilers?


WinterRose At the beginning of the book (it showed in the preview) Sarah dedicated it to Josh (husband) and Annie (dog) and said "my own Dream of Courts" or something like that. :)


message 1391: by Crystal (new) - rated it 5 stars

Crystal Cierlak I've been searching around for more reviews/info/spoilers, and found this:

Review by Publisher's Weekly Review
Maas broadens the world she created in her bestselling A Court of Thorns and Roses with a new enemy that threatens both the seven Fae Courts and the mortal world her heroine left behind. After having escaped the sadistic Amarantha, Feyre's return to the Spring Court isn't the happily-ever-after she imagined. Feyre no longer knows who she is or where she belongs, and she is grappling with her body's strange new powers after the seven High Lords resurrected her as a Fae. She and her lover, Tamlin, are wracked with nightmares from their time "Under the Mountain," and Tamlin's concern for Feyre's safety has become stifling. Worse, she's still beholden to the Night Court, and Rhysand, its High Lord, calls in their bargain at the most inconvenient time. Fans may be frustrated by Feyre's shifting romantic allegiances, but Maas lets the relationship dynamics change organically, and her talent for creating chemistry between her characters (including some fiery sexual encounters) is as strong as ever. Maas gives Feyre the space to regain her agency and prove herself the equal of any High Lord, resulting in an immersive, satisfying read. Ages 14-up. Agent: Tamar Rydzinski, Laura Dail Literary Agency. (May) © Copyright PWxyz, LLC. All rights reserved.



message 1392: by Crystal (new) - rated it 5 stars

Crystal Cierlak And this:

KIRKUS REVIEW

After the events of A Court of Thorns and Roses (2015), Feyre struggles to pull herself back together while imminent threats loom.

In the months after defeating Amarantha and escaping hellish captivity Under the Mountain, Feyre hasn’t been doing well. She’s drowning in guilt over the prices she paid and unable to escape the feeling that she’s trapped. Tamlin is perhaps coping even worse—he’s consumed by the fear of failing to protect her and in denial. While their physical relationship is mutually pleasurable—and graphically hot—their happily-ever-after fairy-tale wedding is further derailed by Rhysand, the High Lord of the dreaded Night Court, who demands that Feyre fulfill their bargain by coming with him (one week a month). Rhys believes war is coming, and he needs Feyre for his dangerous scheme to win it. As Feyre travels between courts and explores the consequences of her resurrection, she learns more about Prythian, its history, and peoples (including its darkest sides: misogynistic cultures and tensions between High Fae and lesser faeries). Occasionally the characters fall too neatly into wholly good or completely bad boxes, which at its least subtle comes across as manipulative of readers, but the large cast provides relief from Feyre’s deep psychological wounds. The erotically charged lead-up to the romantic storyline’s climaxes (pun intended) adds stakes to the cliffhanger.

Hits the spot for fans of dark, lush, sexy fantasy. (Fantasy. 14 & up)


Basically mybodyisready.gif


message 1393: by Beela (new)

Beela I saw that one too, and I hope by "organically" they mean she switches from Tamlin to Rhysand and does not start a love triangle. My heart couldn't take it.


TheBookie Okay so I've read almost all the spoilers but I haven't gotten to read part 2-4 only 1 and 5. I'm talking about the spoilers posted from tumblr. It's driving me insane listening to you guys talk about the spoilers I haven't read yet. Could someone post a link to the ones I'm missing out on.


message 1395: by Beela (new)

Beela If you scroll up a few comments, I know someone posted the links. I know this isn't really helpful, but if no one posts new links, there are some up a few comments.


WinterRose This is the person that had all of them. :D

http://the-german-bookworm.tumblr.com/


message 1397: by Mona (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mona Did everyone see that you can order paperback copies of ACOMAF on Abebooks already? I just expedited mine for 3 - 6 day shipping. Can't wait.


WinterRose Yes, I did mine too! Well I did the hardback and mine should be here on or before April 30th. SO EXCITED.


message 1399: by Beela (new)

Beela How are you getting yours on April 30th?!?! Mine is coming May 9th


message 1400: by WinterRose (last edited Apr 22, 2016 02:14PM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

WinterRose I checked the different shipping rates and clicked the one that said 3-6 days. I ordered yesterday and it said expected delivery May 5th. But then it shipped out, and it got changed to April 30th. The store I ordered from is in Florida. I also paid an extra $5 for the 3-6 days.


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