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Yes... anybody can be racist. It doesn't really rely on the Caucasian race. For example, a Chinese person could be racist to a black person. (wait is that white?)
Oh, yeah, or a black person could be racist to a white person. (I don't really know how to explain it :sob:)
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For example, a Chinese person could be racist to a black person. (wait is that white?)
Oh, yeah, or a black person could..."
No that makes sense!! Agreed
Well that is the liberal definition. The marxist definition disagrees
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Austin wrote: "Well that is the liberal definition. The marxist definition disagrees"
What is the marxist definiton
Neomarxist?
Oh like power dynamics and all
The marxist definition is power plus prejudice. Meaning that people out of power or a group of minority can be as inflammatory as they want because they were dispossessed of power. So any discrimination from the minority pov is to redress past power imbalance.
How can colored or discriminated people not also be racist? I'm sorry but that is just ridiculous, people dont get a pass to be racist because the color of their skin or where they were born. People are people, racism of any kind is disgusting and offensive to all of us, think about it. If a white person is racist to a Hispanic person, thats offensive to the Hispanic person and EMBARRASSING for white people. And vice versa! Anyone can be racist, color and origin give nobody a free pass, there is a difference between fighting against racism and actually being racist.
No hang on. There is a power dynamic. White people are inheretently more powerful than any other race and so the weight their words have is more so. As in they hurt you more than a black person, eg. XD
Well the idea of the neo marxists or interesctionalism is that the best way to address past discrimination is with present discrimination.
As a blonde haired blue eyed white person, out of politics, i'm talking about real life stuff, day to day stuff people go through. Just because their skin color is different doesn't mean their words are any less offensive??Whether you have power or not, words still are offensive and have weight, equal amounts...
Tessie ~face of an angel, mind of a killer~ wrote: "As a blonde haired blue eyed white person, out of politics, i'm talking about real life stuff, day to day stuff people go through. Just because their skin color is different doesn't mean their word..."But you hold more power as a whitw person the world is based ariund you
So because i'm white, if a black person/hispanic person/asian person is racist towards me, it doesn't matter because... the president has the same skin color?That doesn't sound right, imo. Again, you dont get a pass to be racist just because of your origin or skin color...
Lol tessie i live in a low income area. Racism is all around me and it is purely because im white. It doesn't need to be right for people to adopt it.
I personally have been attacked and robed because i was white and i stood out.
Tessie ~face of an angel, mind of a killer~ wrote: "So because i'm white, if a black person/hispanic person/asian person is racist towards me, it doesn't matter because... the president has the same skin color?That doesn't sound right, imo. Again, ..."
No im asian i was colonised so i can be racist
Lol well indian but yes she is allowed to be racist by modern societal standards
I feel like it depends on who you're racist withBecause my friends and i are racist to eachother (jokingly, not genuinely) and i have an asian friend, and i occasionally call her a dog eater.
However, were i to meet another asian person im not gonna just scream from the rooftops "DOGEATER!!"
Maybe thats just me idk
Chadwick you are talking about banter that is different. Anything said between friends and about friends is banter. Racism is towards people you either dont know or dont care about
Ahh trueRealistically anyone CAN be racist, its just a matter of SHOULD they be racist
MidnightButterfly wrote: "Tessie ~face of an angel, mind of a killer~ wrote: "So because i'm white, if a black person/hispanic person/asian person is racist towards me, it doesn't matter because... the president has the sam..."What. You get to be racist because you're asian..? No! Thats really not right...
Austin wrote: "Lol tessie i live in a low income area. Racism is all around me and it is purely because im white. It doesn't need to be right for people to adopt it."Im sure... but it still isn't T^T
𝔖𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔫 wrote: "Austin that’s wrong on so many levels 😭 no where in the definition of racism does it say it’s only to ppl u don’t know. U can be racist to friends, u can be racist to anyone- just bcos u know someo..."So banter with friends is wring?
Racism is systematic and social. Yes a someone is Non-white can be racist, but reverse racism (racism against white people) doesn't exist. This is because while someone may socially dislike white people because they are white, there is no systematic oppression occuring.
𝔖𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔫 wrote: "sometimes, yes! ‘making jokes’ isn’t an excuse to say discriminatory stuff. . ."Sometimes. But it is between the friends to decide yeah?
clown_the_basking_shark wrote: "Racism is systematic and social. Yes a someone is Non-white can be racist, but reverse racism (racism against white people) doesn't exist. This is because while someone may socially dislike white p..."There we go we have the marxist defintion 😅🤣
𝔖𝔦𝔯𝔢𝔫 wrote: "sometimes, yes! ‘making jokes’ isn’t an excuse to say discriminatory stuff. . ."Ok so i'd like the make a point clear that we're all racist back to eachother.. like obviously im not gonna be rude and keep calling her a dogeater if she doesnt like it
Lol yay we have a marxist here now i can be reasonable again lol
MidnightButterfly wrote: "clown_the_basking_shark wrote: "Racism is systematic and social. Yes a someone is Non-white can be racist, but reverse racism (racism against white people) doesn't exist. This is because while some..."Yeah, I'm explaining it in a simpler way cause I'm watching it get twisted throughout this
ray ੈ✩‧₊˚ (semi-hiatus till summer) wrote: "Austin wrote: "Well the idea of the neo marxists or interesctionalism is that the best way to address past discrimination is with present discrimination."I’m not sure what you mean by intersectio..."
We are talking about race, this argument is irrelevant in this scenario. Yes white people can be discriminated against if they are part of a different minority but they can not be discriminated against due to their race.
That is... so untrue. Racism can occur in multiple ways and saying that peopke do no experience racism becsuse they are white is taking away from their exeeiences and quite the opposite of what people standing for tolerance, diveristy, etc stand for?
Well that is one way to view intersectionality. But the mainstream view of intersectionality is that by belonging to multiple groups your discrimination can be multiplied by hitting you from different angles thus being at the intersection and being hit by multiple cars. Which is where intersectionality came from.
Well i dont think it is a skewing the ideology i think it is the ideology in application. The definition i gave is much more commonly sited and used. That was definition i learned in school
But ignoring discrimination against white people is encouraging active discrimination against white people.
I mean some are better than others. Inter-sectionalism was explicitly made as a reason to discriminate on people who more than likely have had nothing to do with any discrimination. It is like fascism. Are we going to play the game where we argue that it was twisted when it was put into practice? Or are we going to say those who practiced it did exactly what the ideology advised. Filling in the gaps as they went.
Lol you also just discribed inter-sectionalism in your most recent post too. It is a completely valid criticism. Right up there with socialism and communism. All ideologies that are founded on evil.
Austin wrote: "Well i dont think it is a skewing the ideology i think it is the ideology in application. The definition i gave is much more commonly sited and used. That was definition i learned in school"What do american schools teach lmao
That white people are evil colonizers and we must discriminate against them to set things right.
As a person of colour because brown is a colour unlike black or white :PI think I can be just as racist as a white person i just have common sense and am a nice person so im not.
Austin wrote: "That white people are evil colonizers and we must discriminate against them to set things right."We didnt learn that
Austin wrote: "That white people are evil colonizers and we must discriminate against them to set things right."I was taught that we were civilizing people and that we were in the right.
MidnightButterfly wrote: "Austin wrote: "Well i dont think it is a skewing the ideology i think it is the ideology in application. The definition i gave is much more commonly sited and used. That was definition i learned in..."Depends on the state
the Oxford Dictionary definition of racism is "prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized."
As by the definition, any race or ethnic group can consider thermself superior and others inferior therefore displaying racism. However, the phrase 'typically...a minority' suggests that especially in the United States and various other western countries, racism is more likely to be directed towards people of color by white people.
It doesn't mean that only white people are racist, just that especially in modern western society, we tend to see racism against POC's more often than against white people, however white people can experience racism too.
Although, at least in my experience, many white people tend to be more offended when white people are racist towards POC's than the other way around but that's just what I've seen lol.
It does depend on where you went to school. Like i went to a public school in democrat run area. And it was very oppressive towards white straight guys.
Austin wrote: "That white people are evil colonizers and we must discriminate against them to set things right."
I think this depends on where you live, and the politics of the place. I lived in the midwest for most of my life, where it was pretty evenly split between ideologies, but I've also lived in Texas, a conservative state and Washington, a liberal state.
As a person of color who's lived in diverse places as well as majority-white places, I think I can comfortably say that the majority of 'colonising' was not meant to civilize the people, and just pure hunger for power on behalf of the colonizing nation.Obviously some of them were based on religious and racial 'purity' but that's just fucked up so.
This doesn't make them evil so to say, and I can understand where they are coming from, however the dehumanizing and degrading things that many people were forced to endure and live through were terrible and inexcusable.
However, this doesn't mean that we can hold grudges for things that happened decades ago against the people of today. I can't go around telling British people born twenty years ago that they're terrible people for something they didn't even do.
So like another thing is i am in a mixed race relationship. If we were to have kids they were mixed race. Am i to tell my kids that daddy’s people oppressed mommy’s people so daddy is always wrong? As intersectionality would demand. Or would i tell them that daddy and mommy love each other very much and come from different cultures but enjoy both cultures? As common sense would suggest.
MidnightButterfly wrote: "As a person of colour because brown is a colour unlike black or white :P
I think I can be just as racist as a white person i just have common sense and am a nice person so im not."
"unlike that black or white" is CRAZY lmao
