Should We Have to Call People by Their "Preferred Pronouns" or is That Encroaching on Freedom of Speech?

[butterfly is back (barely, mostly on insta)]

Well, in english pronouns reflect gender
You say he you say she you say we and i and all

[Alexandria]

Sai :) wrote: "Alexandria wrote: "Sai :) wrote: "Alexandria wrote: "YourLocalPoliticsPotato wrote: "No, we shouldn't call people by "preferred" pronouns because those don't exist. You're born with your pronouns a..."

That's specific though. I'm not saying there's no words that mean "male" or "female"

[mal ( exam hiatus )]

Personally, I wouldn't like being forced to call someone by a set of pronouns. You can use the pronouns for yourself but don't try to force me to use your pronouns. You have a right to have a set of pronouns but not to enforce it on people.
Usually, I'll refer to people as their preferred pronouns like he.she, they but I won't use neo pronouns.

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

no one should be forced to say it, because that's just stupid, but they should take it as just a polite courtesy. it's pretty harmless to use a set of pronouns, and even if you disagree with the concepts, i would still show respect towards their own personal preferences.

[mal ( exam hiatus )]

Yes but as someone who has been raised with the idea that this is all 'stupid and ungodly' and I learned to not see it like that. I can see that people who Use Nero pronouns as normal person and I'll respect them, treat them the same but I won't use the neo pronouns, because the people I have met that use neo pronouns, actually attacked me for tripping up on their pro nouns. I'll respect you pe wishes but don't attack me if I mess up

[TESSIE]

Mal [Offline] wrote: "Yes but as someone who has been raised with the idea that this is all 'stupid and ungodly' and I learned to not see it like that. I can see that people who Use Nero pronouns as normal person and I'..."

Yes, agreed

[l i z [save the sharks‼️]]

(not reading back)

okay so basically what i mostly hear from the old guys at my church (sos btw) is that you don't have to call people by their preferred pronouns, then no one does, right? so if i decide to use she/her pronouns for good ole john from church, it's my free speech, right?

i don't think they realize it goes both ways.

[Max]

Calling someone by their name is the same as calling someone by their preferred pronouns. Calling someone by the pronouns you want to use on them is like calling them a different name

[Courtney]

I think it should be up to the speaker how they decide to address someone... Of course, if somebody act intentionally harmfully, that is wrong. But as long as they respect it if the transperson expresses discomfort, i think it should be okay.
And they should maybe ask as well first.

[Logar]

Hate speech is completely legal. I don’t see why it would be any different for a less serious issue.

[Hazel (my girlfriend's version)]

It should be up to the person, because free speech. But honestly its just respectful to call someone by their preferred pronouns and I don't see how it hurts you to just be nice 😭
Honestly I don't get why someone wouldn't use them. Like i've seen people use the preffered pronouns of a trans person and then as soon as they realised they were trans they started using the opposite pronouns 😭

[Sai :), Assistant Moderator]

a lot of people say that they won't use it because of their religious beliefs, but honestly i don't see how that works. if someone tells you they feel offended or uncomfortable when you call them something, i think that should be it.

[Syd]

I don’t think people should be forced to use preferred pronouns but I also believe we should be respectful. Now I don’t believe you can change your gender but I can still use preferred pronouns and not accept that concept. As sai said, even if you believe the concept is untrue, if a person is uncomfortable then we need to be respectful. I make it known that I don’t believe you can change your gender yet I will still be respectful and use preferred pronouns if they genuinely are uncomfortable if I don’t.

[maya ۶ৎ⋆.]

i agree with mal

[ash ³³ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ]

no you should not have to, but you're lwk fucking rude if you choose not to. it's really not about you, if you don't agree with it, no one's asking you to change your own pronouns, and i assure you it doesn't take a second out of your day to be a good, respectful person.

[soph ₊˚ෆ (semi-ia) 🍉]

ash ³³ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ ᵈᵘ wrote: "no you should not have to, but you're lwk fucking rude if you choose not to. it's really not about you, if you don't agree with it, no one's asking you to change your own pronouns, and i assure you..."

literally though, it's not going to kill you to use they/them pronouns for a 20 minute conversation. the world doesn't revolve around you, you can choose to be respectful to the person you're speaking to or ignore their boundaries so you can exercise your "free speech"

[alex (a poor pirate)]

you should, especially because it’s RESPECTFUL…
also, using someone’s preferred pronouns is just normal and shouldn’t be weird (and yes, different pronouns ARE grammatically correct :))

[minnie.]

I agree with what syndey said- even if you dont believe in pronouns, still use them, because its respectful and makes the other person comfortable. like i have freedom of speech and i could go around calling people slurs, but will i? of course NOT because its disrespectful and offensvie. if you dont agree with someones pronouns its not that deep, its just one conversation or friendship be nice and respectful and dont make the other person feel uncomfy

[Ophelia ˚࿔]

minnie ميني {semi hiatus} wrote: "I agree with what syndey said- even if you dont believe in pronouns, still use them, because its respectful and makes the other person comfortable. like i have freedom of speech and i could go arou..."

yeah exactly