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message 1: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Apr 04, 2025 05:39AM) (new)

Feliks (dzerzhinsky) | 3641 comments Mod
This discussion is for films you have joted down intending to view soon. For convenience, 'TBD' is the abbreviation.

"TBD" stands for 'to be determined'. It refers to films you are planning to ingest.

Also useful for "currently-in progress'" titles since some movies are lengthy/installments.

It's a companion discussion to "WDYWL". The former 'watershed' for recent-films-seen, ["Whadja Watch Lately?" (aka 'WDYWL)] has been archived.

Feliks D.


message 2: by Jill H. (last edited Jul 08, 2024 10:56AM) (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments Les Vampires (1916-1918). This is a trilogy of which I have seen short videos of some scenes but it appears that it is available in full. I may tackle it this winter.


message 3: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 09, 2024 02:42PM) (new)

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I applaud you. As I recall it is nine episodes in length.

Filmed live on the rooftops of Paris, under the eyes of German watchdogs.

Much of it is 'clunky' and 'primitive' by the standards of modern thrillers. But it is a clinic and expose of cinema's earliest ground-breakers.

The rewards are cerebral, for those who can stand it. And who is to say what style of depiction is better?

By this I mean, we live today in an era where exotic, private lifestyle/personalities like 'Irma Vep' are near-extinguished. At least in this one case, [Paris in the 19-teens], faithfulness was observed and recorded.


message 4: by Jill H. (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments I would agree, from seeing parts of this serial, that it is primitive but it has a type of beauty that intrigues me.


message 5: by Jill H. (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments You will get a kick out of this, Feliks. I have a new cat who is coal black and has the most beautiful eyes. I named her.................Irma Vepp!!


message 6: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Jul 21, 2024 08:10PM) (new)

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Well dun. Cats make good movie companions




message 7: by Jill H. (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments At the recommendation of two of our members, I am adding to my watch list the 1952 Argentinian film, Never Open That Door.


message 8: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3478 comments Selected viewing of TCM Summer Under the Stars in August. Some I have seen many times; others leave me cold.


message 9: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Aug 27, 2024 08:49PM) (new)

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"White Tie and Tails" (1946).

Dan Duryea, William Bendix, & Ella Raines in a musical comedy a' la "My Man Godfrey".

Gadzooks!


message 10: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1147 comments This is my "wishlist" on RYM, which, to be sure, I would like to own hard copies, but it's really more my "to watch" list: https://rateyourmusic.com/film_collec...


message 11: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Henry Hathaway's 1951 'Rawhide' with Tyrone Power & Susan Hayward. Can't beat Hathaway's vistas or the brisk, efficient storyline by ace Dudley Nichols. Fun supporting cast: Hugh Marlowe, (for once in a major role), Dean Jagger, and zany Jack Elam.


message 12: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Sep 03, 2024 01:49AM) (new)

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I've started 'Champion' with Kirk D. & Arthur Kennedy. Somehow I have always missed out on this one.

Great so far. Screenplay by Carl Foreman, produced by Stanley Kramer, dir. by Mark Robson. Wonderful footage of 1940s streets and cars and wardrobe.

Always enjoy seeing Arthur Kennedy. He wasn't a matinee idol like Kirk, but perennially so solid and reliable.


message 13: by Jill H. (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments I have to admit that I haven't seen that film either and probably won't watch it. But I think Douglas was nominated for an Oscar for his role if that means anything.

I certainly agree about Arthur Kennedy. He had a great career and was good in any part he played.


message 14: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3478 comments I remember him in two roles especially: Murder, She Said (1961) with Margaret Rutherford in which he is a devious doctor, and as Jackson Bentley, the hypocritical newspaper reporter in Lawrence of Arabia. In the latter he was supposed to be modeled on Lowell Thomas.


message 15: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Sep 03, 2024 07:31PM) (new)

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I thought him sympathetic to Lawrence.

Can't recall it clearly but I think he was a major hypocrite in 'Some Came Running'. Philandering husband?

One early role where he thrives as a romantic lead: 'Bright Victory' playing a visually-impaired war veteran opposite caring nurse Peggy Dow. A genuine feel-good flick.

As a tough guy: 'Day of the Evil Gun' opposite Glenn Ford. Spooky/weird/unique western.


message 16: by Betsy (last edited Sep 03, 2024 09:28PM) (new)

Betsy | 3478 comments He was sympathetic when he wanted a hero (Lawrence on the train.) But his reaction to the massacre of the Turks showed his naivete about war. He wanted to take cleaned-up pictures, not tell the grim truth.


message 17: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Sep 04, 2024 03:31AM) (new)

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I remember he wanted sham pictures. That's the early part of his involvement. But it doesn't strike me as a grave, serious hypocrisy. Just going about the business of news-media as he knew he had to.

Meanwhile, when he comes upon the scene of the slaughter, he excoriates Lawrence for his sham posture of civilized English values like 'mercy'.

Then later, he reviles Sinclair for using Lawrence as a cat's paw.

All in all, I think he acquits himself okay compared to the other characters. What was daring was introducing him at all --he's not an insignificant character, but Bolt doesn't bring him into the tale until maybe 2/3 into the story. Hardly any writer risks that.


message 18: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3478 comments Sinclair? Could you mean Dryden? The two of them did have a go-round.


message 19: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Sep 12, 2024 02:14AM) (new)

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I hate Youtube so much that I've almost gotten entirely out of the habit of watching any movies at all. Perhaps understandable since I rely only a dinky little 13" laptop when working-from-home.

I always find flatscreens --even more unappealing than the smallness of the tiny screen --making almost any viewing, unattractive. Prefer a curved tube!

But this past summer --with the heat wave keeping me indoors [and also running out of film boards to jaw on] --I have gone back to re-sample scenes from my top fave flicks.

They all prove sturdy enough --all this time later --but what was surprising to me, were the ones I had the most yen for:

~Cool Hand Luke
~The Sting
~The Thomas Crowne Affair
~Black Sunday
~From Russia With Love
~Ben-Hur
~In the Heat of the Night
~The Manchurian Candidate
~Hard Times
~The Magnificent Seven
~The Good, the Bad, & The Ugly
~March or Die
~Lilies of the Field
~A Man Called Noon
~Hombre
~The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
~Shane
~Stalag 17
~Twelve O'Clock High
~The Maltese Falcon

Meanwhile, films from my 'TBD' list above --I've somehow made it through successfully too (consuming them in little bites of 10 mins each):

'On the Night of the Fire' (Ralph Richardson)
'Champion'
'White Tie & Tails'
'Rawhide'

They've all been decent. Next up:

'Corridor of Mirrors'
'High and Low'
'Eyes Without a Face'

Oh and the trick which allows me to overcome my loathing for Youtube is a browser extension which kills all the ads. Thank goodness for small favors...


message 20: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Sep 12, 2024 02:10AM) (new)

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Betsy wrote: "Sinclair? Could you mean Dryden?"

Yes, that's the name I was trying for. Tried and missed.

But anyway yeah I feel Kennedy's character was written more an indictment of "what" he was --a cheap huckster --like many others in his profession at the time.

Whereas the man himself, whom Kennedy portrayed --that basic American character --seemed to understand fairness vs unfairness at various other points in the story.

If he did not exhibit this trait then I too would label him a "hypocrite through-and-through".

But he convinced me that he was 'discerning' enough. Unfortunately he simply wound up rather like the rest of the figures "who are just with Lawrence until they get what they want, then they leave"

His, Sharif's, and Quayle's character all seemed to want Lawrence to emerge safely out of the whole affair. The rest of the men didn't care enough about this.


message 21: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Oct 02, 2024 06:12AM) (new)

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Gonna attempt to watch James Benning's 11" x 14".

One of the most acclaimed of all avante-garde movies. Not sure how far I'll get.

This same technique ('photography sequences') is used in Chris Marker's La Jetee which stunned me. But I wonder if lightning can strike twice. Not completely certain I want it to strike twice.


message 22: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Oct 02, 2024 03:02PM) (new)

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FYI: some movie groups out there are dabbling with a new gimmick called, "watchalongs". Not sure but that it might only work with large groups? ANYway--from what I can grasp --film buffs agree to watch a certain movie at a certain night at a certain time, and then login into their board to report their immediate/fresh reactions. Sort of a 'spur' to tic off more titles from their TBR lists (or aka 'bucket' lists). If anyone's interested, I'll create a discussion for it


message 23: by Laura (new)

Laura | 588 comments There used to be a group on Facebook and on Twitter called #TCMParty that would do that.


message 24: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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It's a sign of the times that most of the big forums have shuttered their doors


message 25: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Oct 05, 2024 10:26AM) (new)

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'Transatlantic' (1931).

Shipboard mystery with con-men and gunsels featuring Edmund Lowe & young Myrna Loy.

Cameraman: James Wong Howe.

Reputed as an early 'talkie' which hums and throbs along like a more advanced studio thriller from many decades later.

Supposedly one of the great 'ocean liner' adventures.

https://youtu.be/AAGSWBmLn3Q


message 26: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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I'm adding 'Escape from Fort Bravo' to my TBD list. It strikes me as unpardonable that I've never seen it, as Holden is my favorite star.

It's admirable how some stars get a chance to play characters that reflect their personality. Peck, Bogie, Tracy ...were never embarrassed except in very rare cases.

Maybe this was the cunning of the studio system. Female stars didn't seem to always do as well --recall Bette's famous tantrums.

Anyway, I've always shied away from 'Bravo' because I felt the role wasn't right for Holden. Seems like the part could've been had by anyone. I shall see for myself. It is a John Sturges flick after all.


message 27: by Jill H. (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments I have never seen it and will be interested in your opinion. I'm not particularly a fan of westerns but have certainly liked a few and I like Holden.


message 28: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Oct 12, 2024 05:12PM) (new)

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Turns out to be difficult to locate and view. Have to put it off.

I've never subscribed to anything on YouTube and I never will. Who are these strangers and why do they want my credit card?

It's hard enough to 'get immersed' in a movie --with the fast pace of life these days -- without such n-o-n-s-e-n-s-e.

Anyway, I'm adding these instead: two Brit thrillers with very storied reputations.

'Cash on Demand' - Pete Cushing. Said to be one of the great bank heist flicks.

Sean Connery in 'Time Lock'. That's the one where the boy is trapped in the bank vault.


message 29: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Oct 13, 2024 09:16PM) (new)

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Update: I chose well. 'COD' is an exemplary, taut, fine little gem of a Brit crime-romp. What a marvelous little exercise. Superb performance by Cushing. He was spot-on.

I'm sorry to turn this thread into a Feliks playlist, I admit...


message 30: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1147 comments Transatlantic looks WAY up my alley. I will have to seek it out sometime.


message 31: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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'Ten Seconds to Hell' (1959). Always been meaning to see this.


message 32: by Bruce (new)

Bruce Feliks, me too. Aldrich + Hammer films.


message 33: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Oct 30, 2024 10:08PM) (new)

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I had nothing else to do today so I managed to sit still long enough to see this one. Usually I fidget too much.

But this yarn is brisk and boasts very intriguing subject matter. Bomb disposal.

Critcisms:

~The opening and closing moments are heavy-handed with a 'nameless narrator' giving us an intro and outro.

~The romantic sub-plot is too hurried --so swift it's hardly credible.


Praise:

~I'm rewarded by seeing a flick for once with Palance in the lead. He's really given full measure of his skills here. A meaty assignment.

~Have never really been a fan of Jeff Chandler --something about him makes my teeth grind --but I can't deny he is also highly capable.

~Aldrich: if I hadn't known beforehand I probably might've guessed his hand on the helm of this movie. Something about Aldrich films is always tell-tale.

~Like the way he cuts from one scene to the next --surgical, methodical. Never sentimental, never lingering, always matter-of-fact and abrupt. As soon as the actor's last line is uttered, he jets away.

~Interesting performance by Martine Carol as the love interest. I've never seen this actress before that I recall. Handles herself well.

~An obscure cast-member caught my eye. Couldn' identify ...tip of my tongue ...then I realized. He is in Sidney Lumet's 'Network'. One of my top ten fave flicks. He portrays the distinguished-looking UBS network president. It's a beautiful thing to see him perform at a much younger age.

Overall: a short, crisp, fast-paced, nail-biter with good camerawork, convincing locales, and no major mistakes made by anyone. Win-win


message 34: by Spencer (new)

Spencer Rich | 1147 comments Aldrich certainly has a signature!


message 35: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Visconti's "The Damned" (1969) is Werner Herzog's favorite film. I'd only vaguely ever known about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dam...

I'm adding it to my list but I doubt I'll ever get to it.


message 36: by Doubledf99.99 (new)

Doubledf99.99 | 295 comments It's a hell of a film. Haven't watched it in a few years but it's a hard hitting film, might be relevant today.


message 37: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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There's something called, 'War Hunt' or somesuch title --Sidney Pollack's first film with Redford. B&W. Forgotten all about it. Now's the time to track it down. The great John Saxon co-stars.


message 38: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited May 18, 2025 02:41PM) (new)

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Dickie Attenborough in 'The Ship that Died of Shame'

I'm quite keen to see this. Been putting it off.


message 39: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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trying to locate the very reputed German language thriller,

"Es geschah am Tag" (It Happened in Broad Daylight)

but its nought to be had


message 40: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Nov 16, 2024 12:09AM) (new)

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Pushed myself to 'notch off a few more this week

Halfway through the 1955 'Ladykillers' --because of the trio of three of my favorite Brits. Guinness, Sellers, and Lom. It's reputed as one of the greatest comedies of all time. But I'm not liking it at all. Not liking it even one little bit. I've felt guilty for a long time, never having viewed this movie. No reason for chagrin.

'Last Chants for a Slow Dance' --a milestone work of avante-garde filmmaking --turns out to be a ver-r-r-r-r-r-y disturbing American odyssey comparable to 'Taxi Driver'. Woah. In some ways it might even be better. I can tell its gonna stick in my head a while. The lead character is creepier and more manic even than Jack Nicholson at Jack Nicholson's worst. I've met guys exactly like this scumbag in real life. Yuck.

'War Hunt' -- low-budget production revolving around a rogue US soldier who goes "over the hill" when the Korean war draws to a close. Tidy little yeoman performance by Bob Redford. Earnest and sincere. Not bad. Interesting faces in the support cast.


message 41: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Polanski's 'The Tenant'


message 42: by Bruce (new)

Bruce Lom was actually from Prague, and was of both Aristocratic and Jewish background. He left in the late 30’s to escape the Nazis. But yes, he’s British in the sense that many of his films were British.


message 43: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Nov 17, 2024 06:43PM) (new)

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That's his background, yep. Superb actor in so many Brit flicks, one wouldn't necessarily glean it, except for that faint trace of Borscht or schnapps in his accent. It made him rather like Tony Quinn, able to play many ethnicities.


message 44: by Betsy (new)

Betsy | 3478 comments Lom even appeared as a Muslim in one movie, and was a psychiatrist in 'Seventh Veil'. A versatile performer!


message 45: by Bruce (new)

Bruce Yes. And the psychiatrist was much older than he really was. On the flip side, he looked a bit younger than he was when he died.


message 46: by Bruce (new)

Bruce Both Lom and Sellers were in my favorite comedy, A Shot in the Dark.


message 47: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (last edited Nov 17, 2024 06:52PM) (new)

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That's not a bad choice for best-ever comedy

Sellers was a young and energetic Clousseau in that one; later in the series he generously ratchets down his Gallic histrionics in scenes with Lom for the sake of better chemistry. Although it wasn't charity --Lom was fully capable of stealing scenes away from Sellers --which is not at all easy to do. But he did so --I'm glad they were good friends which prevented bruised egos. They are hilarious together.

Anyway I'm pleased Lom had such a varied and long career; I always look for him in ANY cast list if it's a Brit-Flick. Not a very tall man (at least that is my understanding) but he could do whatever any role demanded.

I particularly admire the tight, fine, control he held over his facial features. The tiniest tics, twitches, blinks; the most microscopic frowns seemed fully under his precise command.

Its hard to define where he fits in Brit-cinema. He wasn't of the stodgy generation of C. Aubrey Smith but he wasn't of the generation of Richard Burton either. He's not an Olivier, but he seems plastic enough to adapt to any assignment.


message 48: by Jill H. (new)

Jill H. (bucs1960) | 3892 comments Lom was particularly good in Night and the City (1950). He was the head of the "mob" in London, and was hunting down two-bit crook, Richard Widmark. It was directed by Jules Dassin and is, in my opinion, an excellent film, even though Gene Tierney as the girlfriend of Widmark is totally wasted.


message 49: by Feliks, Co-Moderator (new)

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Specifically trekked to GVIL to see that one. I wanted an authentic big screen noir experience. And I sure got it.


message 50: by Bruce (new)

Bruce Feliks, yes. Also, if you watch, like, the first three (Sellers) Clouseau films, you can see the development. He hardly overdoes the accent in The Pink Panther,* then he does it a little more in A Shot in the Dark, then it’s more full blown in the 70’s films.

*Some people seem to think A Shot in the Dark was first, but The Pink Panther actually was. They WERE released closely together. Edwards knew he had something with Sellers as Clouseau in The Pink Panther, and decided to include him in A Shot in the Dark. The Pink Panther hadn’t even been released yet, I believe. Clouseau wasn’t originally the detective. It was based on a Broadway play, translated from a French play. William Shatner played the detective in it, Walter Matthau played the equivalent of the George Sanders character, and Julie Harris played the equivalent of the Elke Sommer character. It DOES seem at times as if A Shot in the Dark was first, considering the ending of The Pink Panther.


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