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Buddy Reads: Current & Upcoming > Collins,Suzanne The Hunger Games, - informal buddy read begins 15 May 2024

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Ashleigh | 735 comments Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Part 3 ; the end

So easy to fly through this. Although I remembered the general way the games ended, I forgot how it was all going to play out and I forgot about the Mutts. The way that [spoilers ..."


Oh (view spoiler) is traumatising to read. Being in that situation or even just having to stay there listening to it happen would majorly eff you up. Even if he was a shitty person, you wouldn't wish that death on your worst enemy.

I also totally forgot that (view spoiler). Again, majorly eff'ed up!!


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Anouschka | 123 comments Sarah wrote: "Sammy wrote: "Speaking of names...

Another thing that gets me in YA/kids books, is the insistence of using cheesy on-the-nose names for people and places. It's not so bad with Hunger Games, more l..."


It's interesting, the whole setting screams Roman Empire at me, but I didn't fully realize that until I read this thread. So I suppose that's a good thing.

I also didn't know there is a prequel, I think I'll read it after the series.
Ashleigh wrote: "Erin *Proud Book Hoarder* wrote: "Jenny wrote: "I tend to think that it was Madge providing something from the capital to the Everdeen family on the sly.

I have a question that has been bugging m..."


In regards to the rest of the world. I'm so used to disaster movies/books in North America, I've stopped wondering about the rest of the world. In the case of the Hunger games, I just hope we have done a less disturbing job at it


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Anouschka | 123 comments Sofie wrote: "I would say, personally, I think it would be worth reading the prequel. I enjoyed it very much (even though I made the dumb decision to read it in Dutch so I could use it for an assessment). I thin..."

Compared to other Dutch YA translations, it's doable, but some parts just make you cringe...


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Jax (jaxn) | 286 comments Shan ~A~ wrote: "Laura wrote: "I think Effie, in the beginning, buys into the ‘glamour’ of the games. She’s probably only spent 1day a year in District 12, and a few weeks at most with the tributes. And then she ha..."

I look at Effie and the people who help dress the contestants and think that their seeming disconnectedness is how they manage their guilt. Like how Haymatch drinks, they flit around talking about fashion and other nonsense to distract from what they are actually doing and participating in. Effie knows she's sending kids off to their death and she's angry at them because she's really angry at herself. The board that grades the contestants knows what they are doing, and only 1 of the 24 kids they are going to meet are going to be alive at the end of it all, so they focus on the food and living for the moment themselves. They don't want to connect because then they will get hurt. After so many years, I'm sure they've all had their hearts broken more than once.


message 305: by Christina (last edited May 20, 2024 04:42PM) (new)

Christina (chrissy__) | 3007 comments I finished tonight and I realized I actually wouldn't mind a novella or short story collection about career tributes, their families' and their districts' point of views and how they actually feel about the Hunger Games. Obviously everyone in the Capitol is obsessed with the games and they even admire (at least some of) the tributes, and the poorer districts like Katniss' and their people dispise the games and having to watch, but what about the districts which actually have careers?? How do their families feel about them training to (potentially?) join the games, are they actually proud and think their kids invincible?? ? help :')

Also, I had completely forgotten how the first book ended between Katniss and Peeta, although I was aware that they (view spoiler) book 2.
Can I just say I absolutely hate the love triangle trope and kinda wish there was no romance at all in this series lol.


message 306: by Shan ~A~ (last edited May 20, 2024 04:23PM) (new)

Shan ~A~ | 856 comments Part 2

This is really where a lot of the action takes place and where we (view spoiler).


I wish we had Peeta's pov, but without it I always felt like he made the decisions he made to give Katniss the best chance in the games because he honestly thought he didn't' have a chance of winning. And maybe he felt she had more to go home to.

I think that Katniss sees danger/sabotage in every move he makes because of the situation, but also because she has a hard time believing/trusting that someone is looking out for without motive. I was glad to see that she questioned what she was seeing even if she wasn't for sure.

I think someone said this already, and I agree that Katniss doesn't think outside of the present moment, but Peeta is a real strategist. He seems to think beyond right now and makes his decisions accordingly. It takes her some time to get there, and she has to have it thrown in her lap first.

Maybe if I was in her shoes, I would see danger/sabotage to. It's easy to sit here and say, "he's doing xyz to protect you," while being on the outside looking in. But really, armed with the little she knows he could very well be helping them take out someone who feels is a tough competitor. And of course, since she only responds to what's in front of her at the moment, she doesn't see it any other way.

Her interactions with Rue, softened her a bit, and it definitely made her more likable to the people watching. It's the first time she really showed emotion towards another person, outside of anger, who wasn't Prim.


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Shan ~A~ | 856 comments Part 3

Katniss really doesn't realize the impact she has on others. Not just Peeta, but even back in District 12 and that story of how she acquired the goat for Prim. People respect her and I imagine a lot of that has to do with the fact that at 11 yrs. old she took on a role that wasn't meant to be hers and kept her family afloat the best way she could.

I've always thought that the time they spent together towards the end of the games was when Katniss started falling for Peeta, but my reread has me questioning that. Now I'm thinking that maybe that wasn't the case, or she just hadn't realized it yet. Because in the end she hurt his feelings with her callousness. I shouldn't take a rocket scientist to know to be careful with your words since someone literally just told that "Peeta is already there."

It's crazy that I had a better read on Peeta's emotions and motivations than Katniss and the story isn't even told from his pov.

And how evil does someone have to be to create those mutts in general, but to make them look the way they do? It's very sadistic.

All in all, Katniss is a brilliant thinker when her back is against wall. The girl knows how to survive, and lucky for her the people around her sees something in her that makes them want to help her in any way they can.

This is still a 5-star read for me, but after all this time I realized that some of my feelings had changed. I found myself talking out loud whenever Katniss was questioning Peeta's motive and calling her a dummy several times for not seeing what was right in front of her face when it came to him.


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Jenny | 8050 comments Christina wrote: "I finished tonight and I realized I actually wouldn't mind a novella or short story collection about career tributes, their families' and their districts' point of views and how they actually feel ..."

I am with you on this idea. I think a book of related short stories from different POVs from different district residents and combatants would be amazing.

It reminds me of a "it would never work" idea I had years ago for a tv series that each week focuses on some random person and their life, and in the final act of the episode, we find out that they were a person that was killed on the street by Bruce Willis in Pulp Fiction, when he and Ving Rhames were shooting at each other and not caring who else they shot. Or a muggle taken out by a Death Eater, or someone on a rooftop in Independence Day being taken out by a space laser.
Depressing, and no way the movie rights would allow for it in the final scene each week, but I still think it is an interesting idea.

Yes I am warped.


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Shan ~A~ | 856 comments Amanda wrote: "I just finished and I think I'm the only one here who felt quite blah about the whole thing. I see people complaining about the narrator, and I did listen to the book so thought that was why, but I..."

I did read the book the first time around, and even though I still rated this 5 stars, I do think my small differing of opinion was part due to the tone used by Carolyn McCormick while narrating this time. I didn't hate her voice and may give her another shot reading something else and see how it goes, but the tone was really dry.


message 310: by Jean (last edited May 22, 2024 02:38PM) (new)

Jean | 232 comments 1st Post

I feel like I’m starting late even though it’s only the 20th. I read this series with my then mid school and high school daughters when it first came out. I never watched any of the movies and never reread the books, so although I remember the basic plot line, the details are like new to me. I do like dystopian fiction in general and always wonder what I would do in the same situation.

I confess that I did not know there was a prequel until I went to see if the audiobook was available at my library online. I saw prequel so listened to it first. I felt like I understood the games and their original purpose and evolution better for having done so. You definitely get a view of the Capitol that I don’t think you get in the original series. Maybe even a little sympathy for where they are coming from.

Initial thoughts on book 1:

There have been 74 previous Hunger Games. Haven’t the districts been punished enough? Shouldn’t Panem have moved on from the rebellion. Hasn’t anyone in power thought that the idea of children killing children for sport is something that should be condemned and not celebrated?

Katniss has carried the responsibility of her mother and sister since she was 11. Of course she would volunteer herself in her younger sister’s place. But what becomes of them if she is killed? They can’t survive without her. District 12 doesn’t train their tributes like some other districts. Except that this is fiction and anything can happen that the author wants to happen, her chances are not good and did she think about that when she volunteered. It seems to me that she condemns Prim either way.

The temptation to run off in the woods with Gale, even though she friend zoned him, shows her character. She can’t leave her sister and mother behind. Nor can they realistically take all their family with them. Does anyone live outside of the districts? And I could see Gale and Kat developing a relationship. They have time and history.

Peeta seems like he might already have some feelings for Kat based on the bread incident and the way he watches her in school. He might never could have acted on it outside the games. Wanting to protect someone is not weakness, but courage if acted upon. Whereas Kat is hoping someone else will kill him so she will not have to.

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message 311: by Laura (last edited May 20, 2024 08:52PM) (new)

Laura | 5524 comments Isn’t this the 74th Games? I thought I remembered there being a twist in the next book specifically for the 75th Games.

Never mind. I misread your comment as saying this was the 63rd Games. But you said there have been 63 previous games, so I’m assuming a typo. :)


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Jean | 232 comments Laura wrote: "Isn’t this the 74th Games? I thought I remembered there being a twist in the next book specifically for the 75th Games."

You’re right, this is why I shouldn’t type late at night!


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Louise | 3330 comments I’ve finished part 1 of this and although it’s been several years since I read it, I am finding it enjoyable. On re-reading it I forgot some parts of it that aren’t picked up in the film, as far as I’m aware. We get more of a sense of where Katniss’ strength of character comes from, something she sees as a weakness due to the guilt she feels about not being able to help as much as she wants to.

I love the character and world building in this, you’re given just enough to imagine them without being overwhelmed


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Fiona | 899 comments Christina wrote: "I finished tonight and I realized I actually wouldn't mind a novella or short story collection about career tributes, their families' and their districts' point of views and how they actually feel ..."

Novellas about the career tributes would be really interesting. You really have a good point here. How do they train? How do the families feel? Do they have so much faith in their kids that it will come as a shock to them if they die? Do they have a system to get their names in more often since they won't need tesserae?


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Fiona | 899 comments Jean wrote: "There have been 74 previous Hunger Games. Haven’t the districts been punished enough? Shouldn’t Panem have moved on from the rebellion. Hasn’t anyone in power thought that the idea of children killing children for sport is something that should be condemned and not celebrated?"

Personally I do think of course that they've been punished enough. But it being the 74th time - probably there are a lot of people in the capitol & especially the ones that are responsible for hosting / creating the games who were born into this and don't know it any other way. I assume they think this is the right way so this is what they do.


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Yasmine (swissbookworm) | 552 comments Louise wrote: "I’ve finished part 1 of this and although it’s been several years since I read it, I am finding it enjoyable. On re-reading it I forgot some parts of it that aren’t picked up in the film, as far as..."

Same here! I just finished part 1 and I think it's been over 10 years since I read the book the last (and only) time. Since then I've watched the movies a couple of times and some details really got washed out from my memory as they don't appear in the film.

I think Katniss' character is so much more nuanced and relatable (okay maybe that's the wrong word, but I hope people understand what I mean) in the books as her entire pov is explained in more detail. Her struggles, her upcoming, her reason for having to provide for the family since her mother didn't pick up her duties after the father died, etc. Book Katniss is so much more likeable than movie Katniss imo. And also the whole story line with the evoc girl that then becomes the help in the Capitol - I totally forgot about this plot line.

So far I really enjoyed this reread and I'm excited (and also a bit dreading) to see what parts of the Hunger Games themselves I've forgotten, and how they weren't portrayed in the movies.

The world building in this book is really well done and the plot takes you in right away. Suzanne Collins did a great job!


message 317: by Ushashi (last edited May 21, 2024 08:14AM) (new)

Ushashi (ushashib) | 567 comments Fiona wrote: "Christina wrote: "I finished tonight and I realized I actually wouldn't mind a novella or short story collection about career tributes, their families' and their districts' point of views and how t..."

I always thought it would be fascinating to get some insights into the career tributes. Why and how they get conditioned for that mindset! Cato's death was so painful it sends shivers down my spine everytime I read it. I wonder if Collins would ever get to writing something like that.


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Keely (kiwifruit192) | 1813 comments Chapter 1-4

I will immediately get back to the book once I have written this, but I thought I would stop here to give my thoughts so far.

This is my second reading of this book. The first time was 9 years ago according to Goodreads. Back then, I found a lot of comfort in reading in the bath (always a physical book because it was easier to replace should I accidentally drop it) and usually, I would read about 20 pages of a book before stopping. But when I started The Hunger Games, I remember I read about 100 pages in that first sitting. That is very rare for me as my mind usually starts to wander and thinks about other things I could/should be doing. And the bath wasn't very warm by that point.

I remember being drawn into the setting. Wanting to know more about the other Districts. I also think this was one of the first dystopian books I had ever read.

This time I am listening to the book as an audiobook. I have also seen the film a couple of times so my visualisation of things are different from how they would have been in the first read through. Even though I know how the story goes, it is still fascinating to get the details that I had forgotten about or were changed for the film.

I am going to get right back into it.


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Stacey | 110 comments Spoilers for HG and "The Lottery" below:

This is at least my fourth read/listen to Hunger Games but its been quite a few years since my last go round. One thing that I couldn't shake at the beginning of the book this time is the comparisions between this book and "The Lottery" by Shirley Jackson. They are very differernt in set up and the reasons behind these events but they are both steeped in tradition to the point where many don't even question the fact that they are sacrificing actual humans anymore. There isn't enough questioning of those traditions or fighting to end them (I guess for HG at least until Katniss's games) I read "The Lottery" the first time in 7th grade English and I legit remember feeling sick over this story when it became very clear what was happening. I was likewise sickened over the Hunger Games when I first read the book. Now in the "Lottery" the reasons behind this event seems to me to be some kind of offering to keep their lives going as they are in the village. "If we stopped doing this, we would all be back to living in cages" or something similar is mentioned. But due to it being a short story, we are left to our imagination to figure out many factors. In Hunger Games, it seems more like a literally sport to entertain the Capital and keep the Districts rundown and beaten into their miserable way of life. I guess the idea of the "luck of the draw for death" seems to be the clearest similarity.


message 320: by Tammie (last edited May 21, 2024 12:08PM) (new)

Tammie | 4553 comments Just finished Part 1

I read the sequel just prior to this and glad I did. Comment here is for those who have read prequel > (view spoiler)

I thought it was hilarious how Katniss sent the arrow in to the apple. What a dope! Haymitch especially told her not to show off!
She scored so well…the best. Here’s where I remember loving this book…it’s great to have a likeable hero.

Also the quote, reflection muttered by Katniss: I can’t help comparing what I have with Gale to what I’m pretending to have with Peeta. …and then she learns Peeta now wants to be coached separately. She feels betrayed…I can’t recall how this goes, but I’m thinking it’s best given both of their training scores.

I’m loving Cinna!!


message 321: by Silje (last edited May 21, 2024 11:52PM) (new)

Silje (sikna) | 1443 comments I just started reading today. I've read the books before, like 10 years ago if not more. I'm curious to see what I think of them now when I'm older and have watched the movies several times.

The first thing I noticed is how laser-focused Katniss' mind is. First on providing for and protecting her family, her sister especially. She thinks of nothing else, doesn't see Gale's feelings, and jumps in to save Prim without thinking. Then survival; she knows she can't cry because it would be a sign of weakness to the others. It must be exhausting to always be this focused.


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Tammie | 4553 comments Silje wrote: "I just started reading today. I've read the books before, like 10 years ago if not more. I'm curious to see what I think of them now when I'm older and have watched to movies several times.

The fi..."


Agreed…wonder how Gale feels knowing that Peeta has had a crush on Katniss


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Tammie | 4553 comments Part 2 is very good. Katniss shows kindness (friending and losing Rue) and ruthlessness in this segment…definitely one of the stronger contenders.
I’m afraid of one little bee…I can’t imagine the courage it too to take on tracker jackers…yikes!
Two things that stick out are Katniss continued naivety regarding Peeta being in love with her…blind she is!


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Shan ~A~ | 856 comments Tammie wrote: "Part 2 is very good. Katniss shows kindness (friending and losing Rue) and ruthlessness in this segment…definitely one of the stronger contenders.
I’m afraid of one little bee…I can’t imagine the ..."


My thoughts exactly. Besides her showing tender emotions for Prim, her interactions with Rue were the only other times when she wasn't angry with or distrustful of someone.

And I think I would have been caught or stuck in the tree if I had to deal with the tracker jackers. 😂


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Tammie | 4553 comments Part 3…Really enjoyed reading this book again.

Katniss, Katniss…what are you doing denying your feelings for Peeta. At the start of this book you said Gale was only a friend…and now here you are making a mess of things with Peeta…what a fool girl you are. This trope does drive me crazy!

Let the games with the Capital begin…look forward to reading the next!


message 326: by Jean (last edited May 21, 2024 07:38PM) (new)

Jean | 232 comments 2nd Post

The games are in full swing. They make for a fast read with nonstop action. Peeta is protecting Kat the only way he knows how and Rue and Kat are helping each other. Rue is so young and little. Does Rue remind her of Prim?

Katniss doesn’t know what to make of Peeta and his actions, is he going to betray her to the Careers or is he trying to protect her? What she does know is there can only be one winner. If they were both to survive one would have to kill the other and I think Peeta would sacrifice himself for her. Yes I know that isn’t what is going to happen but if I didn’t know that, then this would be the dilemma we would find ourselves in.

I keep thinking back to the reason for these games. The Capitol has come far in prosperity since the prequel. The games have evolved to full blown entertainment. But the districts still are required to watch even though for them these are their children fighting and dying. It is not entertainment for them. Several times there has been mention that there will be no blackouts tonight. So the Capitol controls the blackouts to control the people in the districts just like they control the games and the food supplies and everything else.


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Suzanne | 5417 comments I'm re-reading, but it's been about 12 years. I've liked all of the comments above! I have an overwhelming number of thoughts about all the insights, but for now I'm just going to focus on my thoughts as I read.

1. Somehow the first time I never caught the Appalachian, Rocky Mountain, etc. references. Not sure how I missed those. I liked the comments in this thread about them. I do get some disconnect about having the Capitol in the Rocky Mountains because the extreme weather/terrain doesn't fit well with me when I think about a luxury society. What do they do when they are under 6 feet of snow!?
2. Haymitch is such a horrible man at first - I remember really hating him the first time I read the book. I now understand why he has resorted to drink and don't blame him a bit.
3. I hate love triangles even more than I did when I first read the book.


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Preeti (preetisunaina) | 986 comments I read the Hunger Games series for the first time in 2011 and read all 3 books in quick succession. These were amongst the very first dystopian novels I ever read and I had not heard of this genre before that. Since then I have read the entire series numerous times and each time I find myself holding my breath at the same places and cheering or mourning for characters the same way the first time they were introduced to me in the books.

Katniss is a character I found most heartbreaking. When I think of how young she was when she had to take over running her family and keeping her mother and sister supplied with food and shelter, I can understand why she became the person she was. I think that the loss of her father affected her deeply and she chose to keep everybody far away so as not to have to deal with that kind of loss ever again. I don't think that she was in love with Gale, more that he was somebody she had allowed herself to get close to and so was a safe place for her.
I must say I definitely preferred the book Katniss to the movie one. I felt that in the book we got a more nuanced character whereas in the movie, she seemed to rotate between precisely 3 emotions, lost, weepy and angry. While I think Jennifer Lawrence is an excellent actress, I think a lot of Katniss's personality got lost during the adaptation.


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Jean | 232 comments 3rd Posting

What an unsatisfying ending. I mean I know there is a sequel coming, but really. Katniss is probably right to be confused about her feelings for Peeta. Is it just the mutual circumstances they have found themselves in, the proximity, the adrenaline. So I get she’s confused.

And what if Gale. I think he has feelings for Katniss, more than she does for him whom she has said is like a brother. They have a long history. The author has set up the love triangle for the next book perfectly.

In the prequel for most of it I was sympathetic towards Snow until he turned on Lily Gray, but now he just seems evil.


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Melindam | 8291 comments Just reached the hardest part. RUE...
am on the commute train and can hardly keep from crying.... and then when Katniss gets the bread from a starving District 11 is making me want to cry even more :'(
...


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Melindam | 8291 comments I did not remember the "different district=different bread" thing OR the fact that Peeta knows it all. Which in turn makes me think that I underestimated Peeta. I guess Suzanne Collins intended us to do just that, but now I am thinking that Peeta is very observant and somehow knows what are the things that really count, that makes us human in the positive sense of the word.


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Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Melindam wrote: "Just reached the hardest part. RUE...
am on the commute train and hardly keep from crying.... and then when Catniss gets the bread from a starving District 11 is making me want to cry even more :'..."


Omg.
Heart breaking.
I don't know what it is that makes it so bloody emotional seeing that we really don't know Rue (no more than Katniss did), so it is definitely kudos to the author to make those tears flow... even when we know it is coming! Ah!


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Melindam | 8291 comments I guess also the fact that my son is 10 years old and I just couldn't help drawing parallels and thinking about sending children (no matter their age) to be killed and forcing parents and siblings and friends watch them die .... it's blood-chillingly terrible


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Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Melindam wrote: "I guess also the fact that my son is 10 years old and I just couldn't help drawing parallels and thinking about sending children (no matter their age) to be killed and forcing parents and siblings ..."

Absolutely! Actually J saw me reading Hunger Games the other day and he said "isn't that Squid Game for teenagers?" and then we started a whole conversation about it. He said that if he was chosen he would just run and hide because he wouldn't want to kill anyone or be killed. I said that would be a great idea (and didn't tell him how the game makers would find a way to kill him).
Did make me wonder though.... It has been over 10 years since I read these... were there ever mentions of people running away before the reaping or taking their own life during the games rather than participating?


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Melindam | 8291 comments Base on this discussion thread, this is one of the books I decided to recommend to D when he gets old enough. So many thins to contemplate.


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Melindam | 8291 comments Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Did make me wonder though.... It has been over 10 years since I read these... were there ever mentions of people running away before the reaping or taking their own life during the games rather than participating?"

I don't recall that and knowing the Capitol, it would probably go after the families to send the message to all that there's nowhere to hide. :(


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Melindam | 8291 comments And the people living in the Capitol, accepting or ignoring or craving the price others' pay for their entertainment...

Well, Terry Pratchett says it all and says it so much better than I ever can:

“Down there - he said - are people who will follow any dragon, worship any god, ignore any inequity. All out of a kind of humdrum, everyday badness. Not the really high, creative loathsomeness of the great sinners, but a sort of mass-produced darkness of the soul. Sin, you might say, without a trace of originality. They accept evil not because they say yes, but because they don't say no.”


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Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Melindam wrote: "Base on this discussion thread, this is one of the books I decided to recommend to D when he gets old enough. So many thins to contemplate."

For sure. My kids want to read them and I said they can but not yet. A few more years 😊 Then I’ll probably re-read again with them


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Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Melindam wrote: "Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Did make me wonder though.... It has been over 10 years since I read these... were there ever mentions of people running away before the reaping or taking their own life during the..."

I thought the same - The Capitol would go for the family - but surely there would be kids doing it anyway?


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Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Melindam wrote: "And the people living in the Capitol, accepting or ignoring or craving the price others' pay for their entertainment...

Well, Terry Pratchett says it all and says it so much better than I ever ca..."


👏👏👏


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Fiona | 899 comments Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Melindam wrote: "I guess also the fact that my son is 10 years old and I just couldn't help drawing parallels and thinking about sending children (no matter their age) to be killed and forcing pare..."

Comparing it to Squid Game is really an interesting thought. I think for the actual Hunger Games you can really say that it's Squid Game for children/teenagers. Of course there's a big difference in how they're getting there though. In Squid Game, the participants more or less choose to go because of debt etc. while in the Hunger Games, the kids have to pay for the sins of others.. and well, I guess the careers go there willingly but let's not count them lol


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Stacey (boydsmom) | 1377 comments Melindam wrote: "Just reached the hardest part. RUE...
am on the commute train and can hardly keep from crying.... and then when Katniss gets the bread from a starving District 11 is making me want to cry even mor..."


I've watched the movie multiple times, read the book 3 times -- this part STILL gets me. The song, the flowers, the salute and then the bread. which I completely forgot - just brutal.


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Catsalive | 423 comments I'm afraid I find the whole scene with Rue, Katniss & the flowers, incredibly cheesy, & not entirely believable for Katniss, no matter how much Rue reminds her of Prim. The singing, maybe, & I'm all for her cocking a snook at the Capitol in some way, but the flowers make me gag a bit. I have to remind myself that this is a children's book, populated by children.


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Preeti (preetisunaina) | 986 comments Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Did make me wonder though.... It has been over 10 years since I read these... were there ever mentions of people running away before the reaping or taking their own life during the games rather than participating?"

I don't think there was any mention in the Hunger Games but it does happen in Ballad (the running, that is) and I believe that the consequences of the event served to deter tributes in future games from trying anything similar.


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Preeti (preetisunaina) | 986 comments Having finished both the book and the movie (I watched it last night), I am rearing to get into book 2. I had completely forgotten that the entire Avox storyline was removed from the movie. That was sad as that was a part of the book that gives you a feel of the consequences facing people who attempt to go against the Capitol.

I liked Effie Trinket in the book... I always got the feeling she was just making the best of the situation she found herself in but I adored Elizabeth Banks' portrayal as she gave her that bit of heart and humour that made it easier to connect to her.

The first few times I read the books, I wasn't such a fan of Haymitch until I realised that for him to be a mentor, he had to have been responsible for the deaths of at the very least a few tributes the year he took part. In addition, being the mentor to young children who he knew were in all likelihood going to face very violent deaths had to have ruined his emotional and mental health. I am no longer surprised when he is introduced as the drunkard he is. For him to sober up and provide Katniss and Peeta with the assistance they needed despite all that shows his true inner strength.


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Silje (sikna) | 1443 comments Karen ⊰✿ wrote: "Melindam wrote: "Just reached the hardest part. RUE...
am on the commute train and hardly keep from crying.... and then when Catniss gets the bread from a starving District 11 is making me want to..."


I dreaded reading this part, knowing how emotional it would be. It also makes me in awe of how words read or spoken can create such strong emotion. The movie has acting and music to help amplify the feeling, but in the book the author manages the same with just writing.


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Silje (sikna) | 1443 comments Preeti wrote: "Having finished both the book and the movie (I watched it last night), I am rearing to get into book 2. I had completely forgotten that the entire Avox storyline was removed from the movie. That wa..."

Haymitch is an interesting character. He may not be very likable in the beginning, but he grows on you. Despite being drunk and harsh, he is realistic about the situation they're in and does what he can for them to survive. Considering he has been through it himself and has had to watch his tributes die several times, I'm not surprised he hides a bottle most of the time.


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Karen ⊰✿ | 16593 comments Mod
Preeti wrote: "Having finished both the book and the movie (I watched it last night), I am rearing to get into book 2. I had completely forgotten that the entire Avox storyline was removed from the movie. That wa..."

Oh yes me too. When the Avox appeared here it jolted me a bit and I wondered why I had forgotten. That’s the answer! It was cut from the movie


message 349: by Melindam (last edited May 24, 2024 01:50AM) (new)

Melindam | 8291 comments Silje wrote: "Haymitch is an interesting character. He may not be very likable in the beginning, but he grows on you. Despite being drunk and harsh, he is realistic about the situation they're in and does what he can for them to survive. Considering he has been through it himself and has had to watch his tributes die several times, I'm not surprised he hides a bottle most of the time"

I liked Haymitch and it doesn't hurt that he was played by Woody Harrelson in the movie version. :)

On the other hand, I did not like the actor playing Peeta and unfortunately that affected his book-character for me as well.

Normally I can compartmentalise movie/book characters, but because I saw movie clips (not the actual movie, though) everywhere before I read the book, my mind already attached their looks to the characters and I could not dissociate here.


message 350: by Melindam (last edited May 24, 2024 01:59AM) (new)

Melindam | 8291 comments And now I am considering reading The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes some time ... 😅

It's ALL YOUR FAULT, Reading Buddies. 😉

Also, finished The Hunger Games yesterday and bumped up my rating to full 4 stars (originally I gave it 3,5) b/c I was more invested in it with all these interesting points you all raised (warts and all...), so thank you. 🥰


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