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message 901: by Ennik (new)

Ennik | 1067 comments faith (SKZ's version) wrote: "rae₇⁷₇ wrote: "ik we've changed subjects but @jen kindly shut up 💀ur actually crazy to think that skz is the top of kpop industry (that would be bts and blackpink) let alone the world
and im sorry..."


yeah, im sorry but shes giving off those toxic middle school kpop stan vibes 😭🤭


message 902: by ❃A.J❃ (new)

❃A.J❃  (bibliophagist) | 1223 comments Guys have you heard about Hoshi's dating rumours (Svt)? Feel kinda stupid to me...


message 903: by dlana [semi-ia] (new)

dlana [semi-ia] (purpleblooded) | 777 comments ❃A.J❃ {Semi-Hiatus} wrote: "Guys have you heard about Hoshi's dating rumours (Svt)? Feel kinda stupid to me..."

Haven't heard of it


message 904: by [deleted user] (new)

A SVT member having dating rumours sounds like a fever dream


message 905: by [deleted user] (new)

BTW since there's no current ongoing fight passionate argument lemme state my unpopular opinion (s)


message 906: by [deleted user] (new)

ACE & All rounder are different things and people call anyone and everyone both and it makes me go -_- everytime


message 907: by [deleted user] (new)

K-pop Twitter is far more toxic than other platforms, even Reddit. Probably because of the character limit on Tweets

Though TikTok is the worst one


message 908: by [deleted user] (new)

Yeji and Hyunjin don't look alike except the eyes


message 909: by [deleted user] (new)

Dream wrote: "Yeji and Hyunjin don't look alike except the eyes"

oh really, they do give sibling vibes, but I respect you


message 910: by [deleted user] (new)

guys how was EASY by fimmies??


message 911: by [deleted user] (new)

❃A.J❃ {Semi-Hiatus} wrote: "Guys have you heard about Hoshi's dating rumours (Svt)? Feel kinda stupid to me..."

istg, help... poor hoshi man


message 912: by [deleted user] (new)

btw was Joshua really dating in August or not??


message 913: by [deleted user] (new)

nat wrote: "WENDY SECOND SOLO ALBUM"

YASSSSSSSS


message 914: by [deleted user] (new)

nat wrote: "MARCH 12"

that's 1 day b4 my friend's bday, and the day of my maths teacher's bday


message 915: by [deleted user] (last edited Feb 19, 2024 07:27AM) (new)

My Manchae (eunchae) is under 18, the company is letting her perform an inappropriate choreo for the song "smart". Why??


message 916: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments Because kpop companies like to exploit minors instead of hiring people who are of actual real working age, which probably points to some issue with age discrimination but that’s a lot to get into.

They’ve also stopped debuting minors like losers (nct dream) and just put them straight into doing all the sexual choreo shit that all the adults do, the difference being that then instead of people thirsting over a grown adult they’re instead thirsting over literal children, and the companies don’t care because they just want profit, and that kind of choreo is what brings people in and gives groups popularity. It’s not about “letting” her perform an inappropriate choreo, it’s about her job being to do whatever the company tells her to do, and if that involves sexualizing herself as a minor then that’s what she’ll do, hope this helps <3


message 917: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
Dream wrote: "Yeji and Hyunjin don't look alike except the eyes"

i agree
for me it's just their eyes that are really similar
but now that i think about it, eyes are the #1 thing for similarity for me


message 918: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "guys how was EASY by fimmies??"

i haven't listened yet 🫣🏃‍♀️


message 919: by [deleted user] (new)

karina ₊ ⊹ (semi-hiatus) wrote: "Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "guys how was EASY by fimmies??"

i haven't listened yet 🫣🏃‍♀️"


it's good, smthng diferent, i need opinions guys


message 920: by [deleted user] (new)

Sandwich wrote: "Because kpop companies like to exploit minors instead of hiring people who are of actual real working age, which probably points to some issue with age discrimination but that’s a lot to get into. ..."

thanks, ik that but I mean, can't the company be merciful and think of alternatives???


message 921: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "Sandwich wrote: "Because kpop companies like to exploit minors instead of hiring people who are of actual real working age, which probably points to some issue with age discrimination but that’s a ..."

No because the companies don’t care. If they cared they wouldn’t debut minors in the first place.


message 922: by [deleted user] (new)

unfortunately, the world is too selfish and extravagant... thanks


message 923: by [deleted user] (new)

that's so rude, multiple expectations


message 924: by [deleted user] (new)

first ppl r like: ohh don't debut minors, too young etc and now when they debut 25yr olds ppl are changing statements


message 925: by [deleted user] (new)

(no hate)


message 926: by [deleted user] (new)

btw lol when I was in my BTS, Bp and gg era, I actually though yeji and hyunjin were siblings


message 927: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments Mehrsameesnibok10 wrote: "first ppl r like: ohh don't debut minors, too young etc and now when they debut 25yr olds ppl are changing statements"

Unless it’s the people who support debuting minors or don’t care that give hate to older debuts.

Also hate for debuting at 25 is literally insane, when 25 is like university graduation age, so a reasonable time to start working


message 928: by [deleted user] (new)

exactly, 25 is young, you're still YOUNG


message 929: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
wait im watching the easy mv rn and i ALREADY LOVE the beginning part (chaewon) and they all look so slay


message 930: by ruwen, ru! (new)

ruwen (lvrkoii) | 972 comments Mod
okay so i really really love the chorus! and the dance, and the adlibs, the members look so prettyy and they all look so good in this new comeback.
the concept is really new and makes me think of sour grapes. but im also wondering "should this be a title track"? overall this song is probably gonna be on loop for a couple of days. 😄😄


message 931: by Ennik (new)

Ennik | 1067 comments ITS SO GOOD


message 932: by [deleted user] (new)

Ray sOO LoNG aNd gOOd NiGhT why r u writing sOO LoNG messages...


message 933: by [deleted user] (new)

I don't think 4th(and new 5th) gen are worse in terms of actual music as compared to early 4th gen and before, it's just that the TikTokification of music only makes the mediocre stuff trend.

Yea the less than 10 songs and 30 minutes as a 'full album' is still a problem but there's so many smaller groups releasing FANTASTIC music over 3 minutes that no one pays attention to and then turn around and say late 4th/5th gen is boring/lacking

(Same thing applies to western music, people just aren't paying attention. It's not the same as books for god's sake lol)


message 934: by sam (new)

sam (sammyzzz) | 508 comments I disagree, 4th gen and 3rd gen music have a very clear difference in their styles. I searched it up, apparently, Atez and stray kids "marked" the start of fourth generation and i have listened to atleast one of their songs from both said groups. I don't know much about fourth gen since I don't listen to it but when I did, 3rd and 4th clearly have different styles. Also, is it just me or is 4th gen kpop all about visuals and dancing and not much music?

And to me, many 3rd gen groups' music hits home while I listen to a 4th gen song and forget almost everything about it the next day 😭


message 935: by Ennik (new)

Ennik | 1067 comments @sam for your "is 4th gen kpop all about visuals and dancing and not much music?" yeah, i know what u mean.

ig 4th gen music isn't for u. i'm a huge 3rd gen kpop stan (3rd gen gold guys 😙) not just bc all the groups i've fallen into, including bts, seventeen, blackpink, nct, etc. are in it are in 3rd gen but bc i definitely prefer their music way more than 4th gen and yes! their music is really it for me and everytime they release something new, i find myself playing it on loop for DAYS lol while fourth gen, i'm sorry, but i listen to it only a few times after it's release 😢 BUT, i really love 4th gen ggs like njwns, gidle, lsfm, etc! not much into the bgs except prolly enhypen & txt 😊


message 936: by sam (new)

sam (sammyzzz) | 508 comments Yeah, I said it wasn't for me


message 937: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments Damn bro most of the groups I like are 4th gen

Nct is apparently third

But Ateez, Enhypen, stray kids, the boyz, txt- all 4th


message 938: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments Dream wrote: "I don't think 4th(and new 5th) gen are worse in terms of actual music as compared to early 4th gen and before, it's just that the TikTokification of music only makes the mediocre stuff trend.

Yea..."


The "albums" under 30 minutes is so funny when I go look at a band of another genre and the album has 20 songs and is almost an hour long


message 939: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments Groups lacking lengthy releases just make it seem like they're churning things out as fast as possible tbh


message 940: by Ennik (new)

Ennik | 1067 comments omg u didn't know nct is third? (i don't mean it in a mean way incase u get wrong ideas- 😭) yeah they debut in 2016, even nct dream


message 941: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
✩ ennik (prod. suga) wrote: "@sam for your "is 4th gen kpop all about visuals and dancing and not much music?" yeah, i know what u mean.

ig 4th gen music isn't for u. i'm a huge 3rd gen kpop stan (3rd gen gold guys 😙) not jus..."


i'm a huge 3rd gen kpop stan too! i miss them smmm


message 942: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments sam . . z Z wrote: "I disagree, 4th gen and 3rd gen music have a very clear difference in their styles. I searched it up, apparently, Atez and stray kids "marked" the start of fourth generation and i have listened to ..."

I think the visuals and dancing vs music focus depends on the group

Like enhypen with their songs under 3 minutes seems like the focus is less on the music. Even if that isn't the intention, I don't know when songs below 3 were normalized but it sucks

But then there's groups like ateez that release quality stuff (above 3 minutes ffs), while also having great chreography
I didn't listen to their last release but the one before that with the purple album cover, I watched the mv a grand total of once, the music was good on its own

What gets me is members who seem like their only purpose is to look pretty, and they're given next to no lines. That pisses me off


message 943: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
i like 4th gen ggs better than the bgs, too. not saying the bgs are bad, i just like the ggs music better lol


message 944: by Ennik (new)

Ennik | 1067 comments @sandwich hm i've never listened to ateez before except deja vu


message 945: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments ✩ ennik (prod. suga) wrote: "omg u didn't know nct is third? (i don't mean it in a mean way incase u get wrong ideas- 😭) yeah they debut in 2016, even nct dream"

Nah bro I'm clueless 😭😭

The only one I knew for certain is stray kids and that's just because I've seen too many "STRAY KIDS 4TH GEN LEADERS" comments 😭


message 946: by Bartholomew (new)

Bartholomew  | 18 comments ✩ ennik (prod. suga) wrote: "@sandwich hm i've never listened to ateez before except deja vu"

deja vu is a banger
They're one of my favourite groups I think, lots of good songs (pretend I didn't completely ignore their last release because I have commitment issues)


faith (skz's version) | 2389 comments Sandwich wrote: "✩ ennik (prod. suga) wrote: "omg u didn't know nct is third? (i don't mean it in a mean way incase u get wrong ideas- 😭) yeah they debut in 2016, even nct dream"

Nah bro I'm clueless 😭😭

The only ..."


i think we all have lol


message 948: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
Sandwich wrote: "✩ ennik (prod. suga) wrote: "omg u didn't know nct is third? (i don't mean it in a mean way incase u get wrong ideas- 😭) yeah they debut in 2016, even nct dream"

Nah bro I'm clueless 😭😭

The only ..."


seriously i wanna cry. these skz are 4th gen leaders are killing me.
what i think is that there is no such thing as 4th gen leaders whatsoever. like i get they’re probably the 1st group of 4th gen but that sure in hell does not mean they’re marked as the leaders just bc they’re “first”. yes, they release quality stuff, but other groups created equally quality stuff as well. stray kids themselves didn’t make anything sososososo great and fs, didn’t dominate in all areas. yeah u can have opinions on who’s who, but when it comes to 4th gen, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, I feel like there is no leader, all groups in this gen all are equivalent and shine equally. but if ppl start stating it as a fact, BYEE.


message 949: by karina ♡, 21st century girl (new)

karina ♡ (httpjin) | 2371 comments Mod
also even if there are such "leaders", it always changes depending on what generation it is. now im not the one claiming this example at ALL, but to bring up an example i saw online, "the leaders of 2nd gen were first tvxq and wonder girls THEN it was [apparently] big bang and snsd.
for 3rd gen, it was first exo and twice, then it was [apparently] bts and blackpink".
i believe there is no set "leader".


aria (jimin's version) (btsarmy) | 1031 comments karina ₊ ⊹ wrote: "✩ ennik (prod. suga) wrote: "@sam for your "is 4th gen kpop all about visuals and dancing and not much music?" yeah, i know what u mean.

ig 4th gen music isn't for u. i'm a huge 3rd gen kpop stan ..."


they're still very much alive lol


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