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What are we reading? 14/08/2023
Mostly offline at the moment as my laptop has gone for repair, but I've dropped in to ask if anyone can recommend a novel by Czeslaw Milosz? We were watching Under a Tuscan Sun last night and the Diane Lane character refers to a Milosz novel when talking to one of the Polish workmen (though I thought she actually said Josef Milosz). I know he was mainly a poet but would be interested to look up one of his novels if anyone here can suggest one.
The film, btw, was quite entertaining - a middle aged NY divorcee writer succumbs to the charms of Tuscany, which is of course marvelously shot, and of Italian men, who are all amazingly handsome. So it sounds corny but there's enough substance to make it interesting as well as beautiful. There's a nice turn by Lindsay Duncan.
I'm well into Au Bon Beurre.
The film, btw, was quite entertaining - a middle aged NY divorcee writer succumbs to the charms of Tuscany, which is of course marvelously shot, and of Italian men, who are all amazingly handsome. So it sounds corny but there's enough substance to make it interesting as well as beautiful. There's a nice turn by Lindsay Duncan.
I'm well into Au Bon Beurre.

i have theseizure of power by milosz on my pile, set in 1944 in Poland
just started the Wittlin novel and its superb, the world of July and August 1914 rushing towards in the elegant, understated prose, as slowly the empire rises to arms, the signature of the Emperor Franz-Jozef declares "war"!
Reading for the third or fourth time about the Battle of Galicia(Aug-Sept 1914) reminds of the sobering fact, in 2023, that many of the locations are now battle grounds again with the Ukraine War. Dangerous to visit being in range of the Russian cruise missiles, indeed Lviv has been hit a few times by the agressors


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New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), was a great case of great mischief. The suit was originally brought by a Montgomery Alabama police commissioner who claimed that a full-page ad in the New York Times regarding police action contained inaccuracies and libeled him. Four other defendants, ministers named in the ad, were also defendants. The Supreme Court found that there was First Amendment protection for the defendants, and set a high standard of proof for public officials alleging libel on an issue of official conduct. However, NY Times was quickly expanded to "public figures" where the alleged libel concerned "an issue of public concern." The mischief came from the details. Sullivan was a public official complaining about the Times picture of his conduct. However, NY Times malice has expanded to "public figures" (who?) regarding "issues of public concern" (which ones? and who decides?) Is a President's wife a "public figure"? Is an allegation as to why she originally came to the country an issue of public concern? By filing suit in this country, Melania Trump tested whether a tabloid would raise the New York Times defense, or retract. The Trumps won out of court. I doubt that either is a fan of NY Times malice.
Should the NY Times standard be confined to public officials complaining about criticism of their official conduct? A subject of debate...

Sadly, no, I don't think so. It's hotter ther..."
It's cool here today, in part because smoke from far away fires is hiding the sun. I'm rooting for what's left of the hurricane to hurry north as that is supposed to clear our air which is bad right now.
In the meantime I continue with The Betrothed in audio where I am ~75% finished. It has gotten me thinking that I ought to know more about early Italy - City State history. It seems that there's often somebody fighting over a piece of that pie.
My bedtime paperback is Miss Silver Comes to Stay which I have just begun.



there was a NYRB article on this case and it was fascinating to read. I am starting to purchase the print NYT once a week now as the standard of journalism is so good.
Its not cheap at £3 a pop but i think worth it. I do miss physical newspapers (NYRB and LRB excepted), thankfully on visits to my folks the kitchen table is always full of physical newspapers, at 78, my parents are wonderfully old school. Last time i was reading physical papers daily was probably 2016


The Right here seems to be content with our current Supreme Court especially as they hope to undo more of the Warren Court's rulings. So I'd better get smarter about that court by taking a look at Against Democracy and Equality.
In the late 1960s I lived in an apartment complex just outside Edgewood Arsenal, Maryland. I will never forget the hatred of Negroes expressed by the maintenance man there. It seems the Civil War will never end.

Hope you are feeling better now. I had some viral illness 2 weeks ago and felt really grotty for a few days. I forgot what it is like to have a febrile illness. Mr Fuzzywuzz got it too - negative for Covid, but then I wonder with ever changing variants are the kits we have now obsolete.

Yup, I went there a few years ago - great selection of books. I'd definitely recommend going if you make it to London.

much better thanks Fuzzy, back to my usual self since Friday but it was a strange 3-4 days of fevers, chills and fatigue. i havent felt that ill since i was a child and never had fevers and chills before as an adult.

I looked it up and although interesting don’t think I would spend over £40 on it. The blurb on amazon says that it covers the history of disciplines such as matrices, vectors, standard deviation, histograms among other topics and one can always look up the history of those online.
Perhaps your local library could get a copy so you could have a look first.

That's why there's an ILL. Sometimes there's a smallish fee involved, but . . .

I wanted a look at something a few months ago, and asked at the library only to be told that they had discontinued ILL (cuts, I suppose). I'd have gladly paid a fee.

I used to love working with matrices - guess I liked the patterning involved. Histograms and s.d. have become part of all our lives really with the huge amount of data around - I think people more or less accept them and understand the basic concept.

I used to love working with matrices - guess I liked the patterning involved. Histograms and s.d. have become part of all our lives ..."
Having stopped after O level maths I don't even know anything about matrices and histograms!
On the subject of reading, it has taken me a while to get through my latest The Collector due to a stomach bug which laid me up for a few days. But now happily recovered 5lbs lighter!
I had enjoyed the last two when Gabriel and family had retired to Venice. But in this one he gets dragged back in on the face of it to recover a stolen painting but ends up involved with the Danes against the Russians. The story was ok for perhaps a newcomer but it came across to me, who has read the series, as a rehash. It may, unfortunately, be time for Mr Silva to leave Gabriel in retirement.

I have re-started it and will report back

I wanted a look at something a few months ago, and asked at the library only to be told that they had discontinu..."
That is TOO BAD. I wish a library service or loss of open hours were the last thing on a chopping block.

Iotten the 'green light' from EPA today as the remants of Hilary have cleaned the smoke and ash from our air. So instead of getting smart about knees with my latest non-fiction loan from the library,

PS - For the most of you here younger than I, I hope you will take action when your body starts to tell you something - that it needs to be placated. I'm doing the knee thing because my left knee is intermittently an unhappy camper, and I want it to be a little happier.

Like so many of the central European depictions of that war, you can sense the seismic shifts in the lives of authors like Hasek, Roth, Wittlin and Rebreanu.
Wittlin was a resident of Lvov and familiar with Eastern Galicia, he was also a friend of Joseph Roth, who came from the same area. His novel follows the events of 1914 from midsummer and the declaration of war, with a dry wit and a very readable style. Like Roth, he is an observer of the old empire, its rituals and traditions, from one end to the other of these vast lands.
A long time back, at least 16 years ago, i read quite a few neglected WW1 novels that are worth exploring and from the Hungarian perspective i recommend Lajos Zilahy Two Prisoners
Elsewher Olmsteads The Slave States is a superbly written travel book about the Confederate states before the Civil War. I am on the section in Virginia, which is fascinating, especially Olmsteads observations of the dire state of the poor white population in the 1850s.

After the walk I treated myself to a Cappuccino in a coffee shop which is both spacious and sunny and continued on reading with the latest Michael Connelly book 'Dark Sacred Night'.
After reading most of the books in the series, my opinion of the main character (Harry Bosch - a former LAPD detective turned volunteer with the San Fernando PD), hasn't changed - he's an arrogant arse who bends (and often break rules) to get the job done.
This is the first book where it really feels like the beginning of the end. Bosch is, for want of a better term 'getting on a bit' and with references to his greying hair, persistent pain from injuries and, by his own admission 'f***-ups', not to mention the introduction of a new Detective Renee Ballard, it certainly feels like the end is nigh.
Overall, I've quite enjoyed reading the Bosch books. There was a bit of a dip in the middle regarding story quality, but the last couple of books have bounced back.
I see here there has been some discussion about the Per Wahloo/Maj Sjowall series of books. I'm going to give them a go.

No idea if I'm younger than you - I'll be 75 in October (with any luck) - but would definitely be interested if the author could be persuaded to write a follow up on 'The Curious Lower Back'!

Good stuff - some physical exercise and being outside is definitely good for the brain/spirit/morale or whatever you want to call it.
As for the books - not read Bosch (I read one Haller - it was OK) but enjoyed the TV series starring Titus Welliver (I wonder how often a character with such a name as 'Hieronymus' has been portrayed by someone with an equally impressive name?)
I also found the one Wahloo/Sjowall novel I read OK, but wasn't moved to read the series. So if you like one, you'll probably like the other!
(I didn't have negative feelings about either, you understand - just not enough enthusiasm to persist.)


Sounds like a good day Fuzzywuzz. I started to feel that the Bosch novels had passed their best and haven't got on as well with the later spin offs either. But the earlier ones were very good I thought.
AB put me on a guilt trip about reading all crime novels. So I have moved onto The Civil War: An Illustrated History
Many on here remember their absolutely brilliant tv series in the 1990s so I thought this might be worth looking at. It is only 276 pages in total so will not be so in depth, but it might wet my appetite. If it does I will be back for recommendations.

Milosz's novel The Seizure of Power is a well-written story of Poland after the Second World War.

I haven't evacuated in my bed yet, fortunately!

i think you recommended that to me a while back Robert, its on my pile

Harry Bosch is not a lovable character, in fact, I'd steer clear of him if he were a real person as I am not fond of downers.
If you do like police procedurals, I highly recommend Cynthia Harrod-Eagles Bill Slider series. As with most series, it's best to begin at the beginning - Orchestrated Death.

No idea if I'm younger than you - I'll be 75 in October (with any lu..."
I have a few years on you and for some time have looked upon aging as an intermittent episode of Rod Serling's Twilight Zone where you are in a closed (no exit) room with moveable walls that periodically move closer. My latest wall move involves my left knee.
PS - I am in a 'let's try to keep original parts working' state of mind.

I'm trying to decide which I'll sign up for. It looks like the event times will work for some who live on the eastern side of the Atlantic.
PS - check out the 'giveaway' coasters picture I've uploaded.

No idea if I'm younger than you - I'll be 75 in ..."
how bad is the knee MK? are you walking on crutches or stick?

Am interested cos his name is everywhere i go, in here, bookshops etc and tempted to try one of the novels but i fear it may not be my cup of tea. Is he anything like David Peace?(whose books sometimes fustrate me but some are gems)

No idea if I'm younger than you - I'l..."
It's an intermittent problem and is not that bad now, but I'm looking ahead with a little foreboding. I rub in arnica (my go-to salve) which works for a while. And then there is this - if I rub my knee cap clockwise, that also helps. I'm thinking there is something loose under there that gets caught.
We have fall out from Covid here - primary doctor-wise. Mine went away and I've just found out that I have been assigned to a guy (no thanks) and one who is originally from Alabama (double no thanks). I've yet to find out my options for change.
I have a high pain threshhold which also helps, so no stick as yet.

Am interested cos his name is e..."
Mick Herron and his publisher (Soho) are certainly making hay while the sun shines. I'm not familiar with David Peace, so I can't compare. Herron's books are filled with weird - as in odd - characters and are snarky, so I suggest you try the first from your local library and avoid spending ££ on something that might not work for you - Slow Horses.

No idea if I'm younger t..."
is it worse going down or up stairs?
i had a knee injury at 25 and various physio exercises have stopped it ever being an issue since, even with some occasional pain the strength remains, which is vital

Am interested cos ..."
doesnt sound like my cup of tea i think MK. i'm lukewarm on crime writing as a genre but dip in occasionally. My kryptonite is usually any crime series that is popular and in the press non stop

No idea if I'm younger t..."
I had an x ray of my knee a few years back, following a 3 month or so problem with it. I did not damage it in any way that I know of, back in December, (but I had damaged it 6 months previously when tripping over a disability ramp, outside the TUC building, in London. It took a few weeks to recover but it did, and I was fine. Or so it seemed. But then in the December I just walked down some stairs, heard a very long and loud click and it had been swollen and painful ever since. I took, on and off painkillers for 3 months. I don’t have anything broken, at all, bone-wise, it seems. But the x rays only pick up the bones.
I could still have had some cartilage damage though. I was offered a try at getting an MRI scan. I looked up the history of the MRI scanner on the internet, and I was not that keen, but that was mostly about the noise, claustrophobia, and the unknownness, of the system. But I did not check out the physics of it at all.
But that same night I went on to have a dream that all my protons in my knee rebelled and said that they were not prepared to be realigned on someone else’s whim. If you are wondering what a proton looks like, in my dream, they were little mid grey dots, with two little darker grey eyes, but they also had three-fingered little claws around their edges. Each proton was holding up a placard, with one of these little fingers, and every placard said “we demand not to be realigned against out will”!… They looked a bit like this Miro sculpture!... but rounder... and without the feet! https://i.postimg.cc/LXwyz4Xn/IMG-276...
I didn’t even know what they were protesting about at the time. Still they stayed with me… the rebellious knee protons. I went on to look up the physics of the MRI a few days after I had the dream, and I became aware that they actually forcibly realigned protons, and that what they measured, continuously, was the time it took for the protons to return to their previous alignment. I began to think that the protons had a point after all (Two people have died in MRI scanner accidents so far. Both hit by oxygen tanks that were being carried through the scanning room by people who had been told that the scanners were not turned on, so it really must be a rather considerable force that is generated).
I didn’t even know that was what MRI scanners did. So, the next day, I turned down the scanner offer. The following day my knee clicked in a much longer and more concentrated way than usual. And the pain abated somewhat. I had been on pain killers on and off (mostly on) for 3 months or so, so I was glad of the release. But I did think, in the end, that my knee had actually been frightened into realignment… It seems bizarre, but that is the nature of the placebo I guess.
Anyway, it seems that my right knee was determined to take its fate into its own hands… I do wonder who is actually in charge though? Perhaps it is a case of ‘the (k)need to know’?
It is not what it once was. But then neither am I these days. But I don’t need any painkillers and it functions quite well. The one thing that helped, also, was a quite expensive herbal daily supply of a mixture of boswellia (frankincense), turmeric, willow bark, ginger root, and pepper and Vit C, to reduce inflamation, and for general joint support. The cartilage of the knee is not easily repaired, I have been told, as the blood supply is quite distant from it, which is why recovery takes so long and this herbal mixture is designed to help.
Anyway I hope this might help, or at the very least that you will be entertained by the vociferous protons and their tiny placards!...

Is anyone else in touch with friends made that long ago?
On the book front, I'm currently reading a second from the 'Malabar House' series. I'm enjoying them so far. A review will follow when I finish that one.

They're not 'crime' so much as MI5/MI6 books and should be regarded as entertainments more than anything else. A lot of jokes, some good action sequences... and some political commentary. One character was (I'm sure) based on Boris Johnson, but the author had to change tack there as time went on and mentions BJ as well, so that he could avoid a libel suit - probably. Not that Bojo could care - he seems impervious.

That sounds like a setup for a comedy sketch! Seriously, though - you are right about knees biting back after a long interval. When in school, I went on a week-long course where we did various arty things, including (in drama) 'falling dead'. I must have done that too well, for I banged the side of my knee on the ground (wood, in a gymnasium-style floor). It hurt.
For months afterwards, every so often I'd get a shooting pain in my knee, which if I straightened it immediately resolved itself. During the year, I played rugby for the first XV with no problem. Then, during my 'A' levels, as I had lunch the shooting pain happened as it did every so often - I straightened the leg suddenly and made some major damage to the cartilage - I was unable to straighten the leg for weeks, and had to hop about with a stick.
The treatment, such as it was, consisted of two shots of steroid into the knee (probably cortisone). The knee gradually healed, and there have been no major issues since - but it does click, occasionally! I also had two cortisone shots much more recently into a shoulder injury (rotator cuff). That worked too. I believe it is to be used sparingly, though.
As for MRI - I've had a couple of scans and have lived to tell the tale. 45 minutes seems much longer inside the noisy beast, though.

That sounds like a setup for a comedy sketch! Seriously, though - you are right about knees biting back af..."
Yes it was an odd one, to do such damage by merely walking down some very ordinary, and not steep, stairs. Husband has a Phd in physics, and so when I told him what the protons looked like, and what they were doing, he looked at me as if I was from another planet... Which might well be true...

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We've recently acquired a few sets of Gladwyn Turbutt's 'A History of Derbyshire'. Usually priced at £80+, we are happy to see these four volume sets go to good homes for £50 each. Beano's (the store cat) bargain of the week!

No idea if I'..."
Like other aging things, at least for me, stuff just shows up and I cannot trace it back to anything particular. However, I also am a believer when it comes to PT and have a set of exercises I do most days - I call it 'keeping even'. I also add one or two new, as necessary.
My latest addition is about eye movement. Balance is an issue so I am working to strengthen my inner ear because of early a.m. wooziness - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...

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I went back and looked to see how long the whole 'Slow Horses' thing has been around. The first book was published in 2010. It looks like the newish Apple TV series is what all the talk is about. Among my rules is not paying for TV stuff (not much of a watched in any case) so I will have to hope that the series shows up at the library at some stage.
I also say Good, oh!, to Mick Herron as he must be sitting pretty now.

That sounds like a setup for a comedy sketch! Seriously, though - you are right about ..."
Excellent that protons came to the rescue and teamed up with the dream fairy to get the job done.
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Sadly, no, I don't think so. It's hotter there at the moment than in Paris, and the forecast for the 3 days I'll be there is now 34°, 33° and 31° with storms. However for the Thursday storms, the Indice de confiance: is only 2/5, so fingers crossed!
There's supposed to be a sharp drop in temperatures after that from Friday onwards.