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I PREFER AU REVOIR, he said.


He made this world a better place, and he made us better, wiser, kinder people.

Jim wrote: "That whole 'good' book thing drives me wild. Get a kid to enjoy reading & they'll keep reading...."
The recent occasion of the release of Pratchett's final novel, The Shepherd's Crown, seems to have provoked some discussion among the Literati (be sure to pronounce that capital ‘L’) who have never actually read a DiscWorld novel (as they proudly tell us in their reviews.)
Get real. Terry Pratchett is not a literary genius (Guardian)
On the Pleasures of Not Reading (Paris Review)
The recent occasion of the release of Pratchett's final novel, The Shepherd's Crown, seems to have provoked some discussion among the Literati (be sure to pronounce that capital ‘L’) who have never actually read a DiscWorld novel (as they proudly tell us in their reviews.)
Get real. Terry Pratchett is not a literary genius (Guardian)
On the Pleasures of Not Reading (Paris Review)



Pratchett wanted his hard drives and unfinished works flattened by a steamroller. So....



I am also ok with Christopher Tolkien cleaning up his father's works and putting them out...but maybe that's because I'd read anything about Middle Earth. And that I feel Tolkien's son put a lot of care into the stories to meet his father's standards. I heard that wasn't go so well with Herbert's son's continuation of Dune though, or with McCaffrey's son's continuation of Pern. If it goes downhill best leave it be.
Other times I just find it weird, like Michael Crichton's standalone works...because even if you had his outline or unfinished work, it still wouldn't necessarily have been his ultimate vision, he could have changed it as he went along, and it doesn't give anything to the readers like completing a series would.
Maybe Pratchett didn't want someone messing up his work, not getting the style of humour or overall writing style right, putting out something terrible that then got attached to his name. Wouldn't blame him.



I have a love and hate relationship with the posthumous Tolkien's works - it is I think meant only for super die hard fans and academics. There are too many versions of one character/plot/history, too many inconsistencies, different names, so confusing and jumbled (commentaries don't help, thank you) it is just not a satisfying reading for me. I want a finished story.

I was a real fan of the Hobbit & LOTR. I read the Tolkien Reader, too. After that, I wasn't interested. Dune is a standalone novel IMO, too. Even Frank didn't follow it up well.

Yeah. I didn't like the Silmarillion. So boring, like reading an appendix. None of the emotion of a proper novel.
"Dune is a standalone novel IMO, too. Even Frank didn't follow it up well. "
Those are fighting words! (I liked the fourth Dune book best)

It...well, it isn't a novel, it is kind of an appendix. In fact one could view it as a collection of historical documents, some of which are incomplete or contradictory. I felt like as if I sat down with the elves and they told me their tales and cultural history. For example a storyteller could recite one of those entries over an evening fire. LotR (i.e. any novel) has the feel that the events are happening as you read it, and as such it's not really a historical record but a "magic" where a reader can experience the events of something. Instead of a storyteller narrating something that happened in the past.
That said, it's not for everyone, mainly only die-hard fans that want to know everything, even if it's a bit boring the read.
Basically the difference between a historical text book and historical fiction :)


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This looks amazing. I'm so disappointed I won't get a chance to see it unless it goes on a roadshow down under.
Terry Pratchett was the author of a multitude of books, including the humorous DiscWorld fantasy series, and was winner of numerous awards, not to mention a knighthood.