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Any sapphic lit fic or classics?
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I’m quite new too! I’m not so sure I’ve read in that genre yet. I’ve just begun my WLW summer reading journey! I’ve only read Sci-Fi and 1 Rom-Com. I’m also new to the commenting system. Haha I have no idea how to work this. Are you seasoned using this app? Hopefully we wake up a few people in the group!
I got Goodreads in Feb but since I have an android (the android app doesn't let you join groups you have to use the website) I didn't even realise there were groups lol
you dont have to use the Website to join groups. I also have a Android and joined via the App
I don’t know if this fits what you’re looking for, but I loved Girl, Woman, Other (!! an amazing book overall, has queer elements though it’s not solely focused on a queer couple). I’m also reading Last Night at the Telegraph Club by Malinda Lo and loving it!
I would recommend the price of salt, it is my favourite book. The Well of loneliness is also quite good but the end is extremely sad, at least it was for me. Also you may know the movie Carol which you should totally watch after you’ve read the price of salt.
Hi Melissa,here are some sapphic/lesbian classics I could think of:
Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu: Carmilla (1872)
Virginia Woolf: Mrs. Dalloway (1925)
Margaret Radclyffe Hall: The Well of Loneliness (1928)
Daphne du Maurier: Rebecca (1940)
Claire Morgan/Patricia Highsmith: The Price of Salt/Carol (1952)
Rita Mae Brown: Rubyfruit Jungle (1973)
Alice Walker: The Color Purple (1982)
Jeanette Winterson: Oranges are not the only Fruit (1985)
Michael Cunningham: The Hours (1998)
All of them are (more or less) worth reading, but please be aware that especially the older stories usually have a bad ending!
Leonie wrote: "I would recommend the price of salt, it is my favourite book. The Well of loneliness is also quite good but the end is extremely sad, at least it was for me. Also you may know the movie Carol which..."Unfortunately I watched the movie before reading the book but I have done that unintentionally with a few other books and I usually find the book is better!
Jutta wrote: "Hi Melissa,here are some sapphic/lesbian classics I could think of:
Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu: Carmilla (1872)
Virginia Woolf: Mrs. Dalloway (1925)
Margaret Radclyffe Hall: The Well of Loneliness (..."
Thanks :) I've read Mrs Dalloway and Carmilla and Rebecca are both favourites of mine! I will definitely check out the others (especially Rubyfruit Jungle because I've heard a lot about it).
Great! :-)I love Carmilla and Rebecca as well (even though I always feel sorry for Carmilla and Mrs. Danvers ;-)) and I also like The Color Purple and The Hours (and the film adaptations!) a lot.
Let me know how you liked Rubyfruit Jungle! It has maybe less literary value than most of the other books, but it was a pathbreaking novel for the lesbian movement in the seventies. And it's funny! :-D If you like it, you should also read Venus Envy (1993 by Rita Mae Brown), another sapphic classic.
Happy reading! :-)
Jutta wrote: "Great! :-)I love Carmilla and Rebecca as well (even though I always feel sorry for Carmilla and Mrs. Danvers ;-)) and I also like The Color Purple and The Hours (and the film adaptations!) a lot. ..."
Also something I find interesting about Rebecca is all the people saying that we shouldn't 'make it something it isn't' by talking about the relationship between Mrs Danvers and Rebecca, when if they'd bothered to do 5 minutes of research about Daphne Du Maurier, they would be just as sure as the rest of us that the undertones were put there intentionally.
Melissa wrote: "Jutta wrote: "Great! :-)I love Carmilla and Rebecca as well (even though I always feel sorry for Carmilla and Mrs. Danvers ;-)) and I also like The Color Purple and The Hours (and the film adaptat..."
ive not read Rebecca yet but you are so right!
Well, no heteronormative thinking here anyway ;-), but I honestly don't think that it should be called "undertones" because it's actually quite obvious, isn't it?!? When I watched the musical, which is really close to the original, I was amazed that nobody seemed to realize where the REAL love story is in the plot: the orchids, the broken cupid statue, the hairbrush, the caressing of the gossamer nightgown, the jealousy - the fact that Mrs. Danvers actually SAYS (more than once) that she loved Rebecca (!!!)! And, of course, the fact that the author actually wanted to show the PROBLEMS in the male-female relationship, rather than the undying love ...
Jutta wrote: "Well, no heteronormative thinking here anyway ;-), but I honestly don't think that it should be called "undertones" because it's actually quite obvious, isn't it?!? When I watched the musical, whic..."I agree that it's very obvious but it seems to be the norm to call it that when it's not explicitly stated that the characters were in a relationship, which I find quite weird. And yes I got the message of the love the whole way through but when I tried to explain it to someone (who had actually only read part of the book) they were denying it and saying that Mrs Danvers loved Rebecca 'as a mother'??? Please tell me this makes as little sense to you as it does to me.
I loved "Everyone in this room will someday be day"! It's very character-focused & reflective and the mc is a lesbian!
Melissa wrote: "Jutta wrote: "Well, no heteronormative thinking here anyway ;-), but I honestly don't think that it should be called "undertones" because it's actually quite obvious, isn't it?!? When I watched the..."'As a mother'?!? Ahahaha! You should have seen the way the wonderful Pia Douwes, who played Mrs. Danvers in the musical I saw, was stroking Rebeccas nightgown ... ;-)
Okay, here's my experiment for heteronormative thinkers: Tell them to imagine Mrs. Danvers as a man (maybe Rebecca's gardener or something), and THEN to read the things Mrs. Danvers says about Rebecca again. I'll bet you anything that there would immediately be talk of "undying love" instead of dismissing her as a madwoman!
Hanna wrote: "I loved "Everyone in this room will someday be day"! It's very character-focused & reflective and the mc is a lesbian!"Thanks for reminding me of this book! I originally put it on my priority tbr in Feb but then I added more books and I kind of forgot it existed :)
I have only read 1 wlw lit fic that I can think of but I loved it and want to try more.
Any recs would be appreciated :)