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Barb wrote: "So my husband has borrowed his co-worker's Kindle for me to test drive this weekend. We'll see how I like it."Hope you enjoy it! I really love mine.
I read a few books on my iPad when I first got it and I hate it! the only feature that is nice to have is being able to read inthe dark, like in bed or in a car a night without bothering everyone. Besides for that it sucks. You can never tell where you are in the book and it's just not the same as a real book. For traveling it is great though so your not lugging a bunch of books around so I;m sure people who travel all the tiem love them, but unfoutnatly I never leave home so bookstores all day!!!
Darbi wrote: "I read a few books on my iPad when I first got it and I hate it! the only feature that is nice to have is being able to read inthe dark, like in bed or in a car a night without bothering everyone. ..."The Kindle app on iPad has a slider bar along the bottom that shows where you are. Underneath that it will give you the percentage completed along with either page numbers or location numbers.
The iBook app will also give your the same information along with how many pages are left in the chapter.
It threw me a bit at first, but now that I've read a few books on the ereader apps, I'm getting the hang of it. I have figured out how to peek ahead, just like I do with paperbacks.
Thanks for the tip! I have just used the borders app and surprise surprise it sucks. I'll have to try the apps you mentioned.
That is how I thought I would feel Barb, but I got a Nook Color, and haven't looked back. It took a little while to feel comfortable not turning an actual page, and I will still read actual books, but I have learned to really like the Nook.
It took me a little while to get used to the format. I figure I will buy the paperback for those that are super good and put it in my library. Now, I have no problem getting into a book, and feeling like I'm reading a book.There are definitely some advantages to the ebook format. I am leading a discussion on Moloka'i in another group. I read it on my Kindle app and marked it up with highlights and notes (which is something I don't do to a paperback). With the digital format, it's easy to do searches for words, phrases, etc. I'm finding that it's a great tool in leading a discussion. I've decided that all my book club books will be on ebook format for this very purpose.
Barb wrote: "Also, I can't wrap my head around the idea of the book being just another data file once I'm finished with it. "Yes!
Janice wrote: "It took me a little while to get used to the format. I figure I will buy the paperback for those that are super good and put it in my library. Now, I have no problem getting into a book, and feel..."The kindle has allowed me to make a ton of notes and mark-ups, which I just can't do to my books. I don't prefer the kindle to books by any means, but I appreciate it on it's own terms; it makes traveling (and hiding the fact that I'm reading at work) easier, and I can have a range of titles available at any given time without lugging around several books simply because my brain refuses to settle into the one I've chosen.
The reason I keep getting tempted by the Nook is definitely travel. I am the kind of person who brings three books on a weekend trip, just in case I finish one or it turns out to be not what I want to read. It would be nice to have a more compact way of doing that.
If you're just looking for compact these are great: http://www.dwarsligger.nl/dwarsligger...The concept isn't sold to an American publisher yet though, so you'll have to wait for that to happen.
i love my kindle dx for many of the reasons already stated. i have limited space for actual books so now i only collect hardbacks by my favorite authors. with the kindle, i still have the books, but they're not taking up precious space. i can't tell you how many dtb i've donated to libraries and book stores over the years simply because i needed the space. parting with a book is akin to parting with an old friend.on the one hand, i enjoy the fact that you can highlight passages on the kindle. on the other, i have found it's not so easy to find a section you didn't highlight. can't quite scan the pages.....at least not as easily. that was a pain during a book discussion when questions were asked about something i had not found to be important.
Yeah, the scanning-and-finding is an interesting dilemma for me too.I've got a really good memory but it's very much tied to multiple cues. So I could find a passage in a book I'd read very quickly, as long as it's the same edition. The weight of the book, the toward-the-beginning-or-toward-the-end...I'd struggle without those cues.
janine wrote: "If you're just looking for compact these are great: http://www.dwarsligger.nl/dwarsligger...The concept isn't sold to an American publisher yet though, so you'll have to wait for that to happen."
I saw "dwarsligger" and at first I thought it said "dwarf slinger." I mean, I guess dwarves are compact, but that doesn't mean you should throw them about, and I'm not sure how that helps your reading predicament, unless you hire a dwarf to follow you around, carrying all those books you don't feel like lugging yourself. And then I actually looked at the link and felt a bit silly. And more than a bit politically incorrect.
My son bought me a Kindle for Xmas. I had been back and forth about getting one, and I was glad that he made the decision for me.
Now that I have it, I love it. One of the first books I read was Infinite Jest, and I can't imagine reading the pbook (and Interlace. I wonder what DFW would think). The ability to jump around, make notes, etc.
I still buy pbooks, but they are non-fiction.
Now that I have it, I love it. One of the first books I read was Infinite Jest, and I can't imagine reading the pbook (and Interlace. I wonder what DFW would think). The ability to jump around, make notes, etc.
I still buy pbooks, but they are non-fiction.
I got my Nook yesterday! Okay, so I cancelled the order two weeks ago 'cause I bought a iBook G4 for the same price off ebay (and for a 6 year old computer, it's working pretty well). I went to Barnes and Noble and bought the new Nook yesterday, and I love it! I bought the only one they had too.
Even with my aunt's slow internet connection, it doesn't take long to download books. The smaller screen makes me pay attention to the actual words. I read so fast, so sometimes my eyes just skim some lines or paragraphs, and I have to go back like, "Wait, what just happened?" I did that a lot while reading The Hunger Games. Sometimes Katniss' inner monologue makes me feel like, "Yes, yes, I get it..."I digress. Sorry. But it makes me slow down and actually read. It fits in my purse so well! Which is important for me because I put everything in my purse. I have two books (and some free ebooks that I downloaded from project gutenberg). I bought a gift card and applied it to my account so I will have a certain amount to spend and stick to it for now.
I'm having a problem with the books I already have though. I went on a used book splurge this week, and now I feel bad reading them 'cause I just bought this Nook. And then if I buy the electronic version of books I already have, that's wasting money. Hmm.
I'm considering getting an Ereader. This thread has been ginormously helpful. Thanks, people.
Ok, so I got a Nook Color for father's day, although I haven't had much occasion to use the device so far other than to play a cool National Geographic game app. At first I couldn't get the computer to recognize the Nook...after a frustrating hour or so I found it in the "other devices" section of the Device Manager. Since then everything's been smooth sailing. I found a few public domain books (e.g. Willa Cather) and those uploaded without a problem. I've also figured out how to use the library's ebook system although you can tell the 1) the system is new, and 2) a lot of people are trying to use it because the selection is small and most of the ebooks are checked out. I didn't realize I would have to wait in line for ebooks. But I also figured out how to download audiobooks onto my Zune, and in light of a long road trip approaching, that was pretty cool. Anyway, I don't buy many books, so I'll probably watch the library website as it grows and use the Nook more as the apps/options grow.
as long as my kindle and my Nook work, I'm keeping them. I collect books so why wouldn't I keep my kindle and Nook if they still work? I just ran out of room to house more than the 650 physical books I have now. It took some getting used to but I like reading from them now. With the Nook I can borrow ebooks from the state library.
It really pisses me off that I can't read my nook color in the sun AT ALL no matter what I do to the display. That blows. Otherwise I still like it. I'm not sure if I said this before but I use it A LOT for knitting patterns and recipes. It just sucks that I can't make notes and highlights on documents the way I can in a book. Maybe that will change? So far the apps are pretty lame but I'm thinking they'll get better over time. They don't have enough free ones in my opinion. Can anyone offer app suggestions? Would anyone else out there w/a nook be interested in trading emails in a pm so we can do the lendme deal? I know there's a nook group here on gr where you can do that but I'm not sure I'm ready to jump in on that scale.
I would, Gretchen, but I haven't much to lend yet...
smetchie wrote: "It really pisses me off that I can't read my nook color in the sun AT ALL no matter what I do to the display. That blows. Otherwise I still like it. I'm not sure if I said this before but I use it ..."I will do the "lend Me' thing Smetch.
for those of you with Nooks: go to search under the shop option and type in free Nookbooks and have fun. Most are novellas but there are quite a few novels as well. If you have kindle: go to kindle store and search typing in public domain books (mosstly classics) and have fun.
I found this article pretty interesting, and rather than start a whole new thread that will probably devolve into a book v. ebook thing all over again, I'll just post it here:http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/op...
Do you think advertising could make a difference in the "battle" for the survival of traditional publishing? Any other thoughts?
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My sense, from what I've read about book publishers, is that they simply don't have the resources to advertise widely, in high-circulation media - unless it's a guaranteed blockbuster book. That's why they advertised in the more affordable publications, which only the already-book-reading public reads. And their advertising dollars for those publications shrank, which is what caused the book sections of most newspapers to vanish.
So is there no money at all for book advertising? I have no idea. But certainly Amazon has much more resources available for Kindle ads than book publishers have for non-blockbuster books, or for public service type announcements begging people to buy books.
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You know, I haven't used my Nook much but tonight I downloaded Son of Neptune for my son. He loves it. I had to lay down strict guidelines for the device's use (e.g. he can't read it on the bathroom floor, he has to plug it in on the desk when not in use) but I can see how easy and addicting an e-reader can be. I wonder if I should have ordered the Murakami for the Nook. However, we only have one Nook, so only one of us could read at once, so I guess I'm glad I didn't.
ebooks publish a lot of new authors. sometimes they are really good, sometimes really bad but it is a place for new authors to polish their art and become better and more effective. my chief complaint: it is too easy to spend money..more money than planned/budgeted. My chief delight: no more struggling with where the heck do I put all my new books? I only have room for 2 or 3 more bookcases. The ebooks will be a lot easier to move if I do have to move in the future. I still borrow physical books from the library..but am trying to buy ebooks for storage reasons. Also easy to buy some books that are out of print or no longer available through retail.
I have a Kobo Touch edition. I originally owned a Sony pocket ereader, then switched to the original Kobo, then the Kobo Wi-fi, and just upgraded to a touch yesterday!
I love my Kobo; it is easy to use, has a really fast wi-fi connection, it tracks my reading progress... it's just nice to hold and read from.
I love being able to carry the vast amount of books around, i can switch books easily if one bores me. I like that I can buy the books at a lower price, most times, and that I've found it easier to locate new authors/books from the smaller publishing houses in ebook form.
I still buy some books in physical book form.... i do work in a bookstore after all :) But its usually my favorites or books that i want to read but am not sure that I would want to keep forever.....
Tamara wrote: "I have a Kobo Touch edition. I originally owned a Sony pocket ereader, then switched to the original Kobo, then the Kobo Wi-fi, and just upgraded to a touch yesterday!
I love my Kobo; it is easy ..."
I had a weird Sharper Image e-reader for a while, and it used the Kobo interface and store. I didn't like the way they set-up their store and search options very much. I hope you have better luck with it than me. It's cool that you work in a bookstore though; I wouldn't be able to, I think I would constantly be pumping my paycheck back into the store.
It would have been nice to have an e-reader and e-textbooks in high school. I used to lug so many textbooks between home and school that I hurt my back.
deleted user wrote: "My son bought me a Kindle for Xmas. I had been back and forth about getting one, and I was glad that he made the decision for me.Now that I have it, I love it. One of the first books I read was In..."
I was the same way! I kept going back and forth for about a year and then my parents got me one. It was such a relief!
Misha wrote: "Was that the Literati, Amber? I bought one of those because it was on sale for about $80, but the wifi didn't work at all, so I ended up taking it back and getting a Nook."Yep, Literati. The wi-fi didn't work at first, and then it was just a pain. I tried to like it, because it was a gift, but between the crappy set-up and the back-lit screen, I gave it up as a bad job. I'm really glad I now have a Kindle instead.
Welcome to TC Tamara.I had a Literati for just a little while also Amber, I ended up getting a Nook.
I ended up having to pop for both a Kindle 3g/wi-fi and just recently got the Nook Tablet. I love them both, but for different reasons. When outdoors I like the Kindle, much easier to see and I do like the e-ink display. I love the Nook though, because I can get newspapers and magazines and not have tons and tons of recycling! I've also found that the two have things the other one doesn't. My wife loves the Nook, so I usually end up with the Kindle.
Yesterday I was able to play around with a display model of the new Kindle 4. Honestly, I prefer the 3. They have eliminated the keyboard in order to enlarge the screen, so you have to hit a keyboard button, which then pulls up a menu on screen from which you have to manually select the letters using the tiny 5-way guide button. Obnoxious. One of the things I like about e-readers is the ability to make notations without actually writing in my books. With the stupid on-screen keyboard, that would be way more trouble than it's worth. If it were touch screen, that would be different, but a keyboard button? I feel this is a rare misstep in the Amazon e-reader progression.
I like my Kobo but I haven't used it much. It seems like a last resort option when all real books in my vicinity have been exhausted.
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For library lending, I just log in to the library's website on my computer and get the books sent to my computer, then sideload them to the Nook. The books will show up in the documents folder.