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message 801: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I enjoy it when I see perfect strangers "Like" my reviews. I enjoy reviewing the books I read because it allows me to be part of a group be it anon, and I simply like writing. It is a boost of self esteem.
However, I have 2 pet peeves. One is when an author "Reviews" his/her own work. I find the action pretentious at best and at least just rude. The second, is a Goodreads algorithm. It shows people "like" a review I haven't even written because you simply have it on your To Read list.


message 802: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2956 comments Wendy wrote: "However, I have 2 pet peeves. One is when an author "Reviews" his/her own work. I find the action pretentious at best and at least just rude. The second, is a Goodreads algorithm. It shows people "like" a review I haven't even written because you simply have it on your To Read list."

The first one doesn't bother me. But I'm with you on the second one. How can someone like a review you haven't written yet?


message 803: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments I sometimes get likes because I have put a book on my tbr list. If someone who is a Goodreads friend puts a book on their tbr list that I have read, I like that. Have I got it wrong?


message 804: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments This is cut and pasted from my Notifications:

İntellecta, Geo Marcovici, Mr Ampaabeng, and 1 other liked your review of Cold Girl (B.C. Blues Crime, #1).

I have not read nor reviewed this book.


message 805: by Carol (last edited Nov 04, 2018 06:53PM) (new)

Carol (carolfromnc) | 15200 comments Quillracer wrote: "Wendy wrote: "However, I have 2 pet peeves. One is when an author "Reviews" his/her own work. I find the action pretentious at best and at least just rude. The second, is a Goodreads algorithm. It ..."

I like when friends put a book on their TBR that I enjoyed. That like has zero to do with a review; it relates to the action they specifically took — adding it. I probably receive a dozen or more likes per day from friends for the same reason, e.g., I added a book to my TBR shelf and they are glad I did so, either because they are fans of the novel or because the book intrigues them, as well. Why on earth would a “like” ever bother someone? I’m puzzled...

I’m with you, Thomas.


message 806: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments Carol wrote: "Quillracer wrote: "Wendy wrote: "However, I have 2 pet peeves. One is when an author "Reviews" his/her own work. I find the action pretentious at best and at least just rude. The second, is a Goodr..."
Thanks Carol


message 807: by Bill (new)

Bill Thomas wrote: "I sometimes get likes because I have put a book on my tbr list. If someone who is a Goodreads friend puts a book on their tbr list that I have read, I like that. Have I got it wrong?"

There is no other way to let them know.. unless you add a comment of some sort...


message 808: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I enjoy the Likes and the acknowledgement someone has done TBR from my Reviews and Lists. I have frequently added books to my TBR from this group- especially with the State/World Challenge. But I find it weird that I get a "Liked my review" when there is not one. "XYZ has added "Titled Book" to their TBR " would be more accurate. It is late, maybe I am being nit-picky. I was just so excited I had 4 people enjoy a Review I wrote - then realized there I had not even read the book let alone Review it.


message 809: by David (new)

David Freas (quillracer) | 2956 comments Exactly, Wendy.


message 810: by Barbara (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9974 comments Wendy wrote: "I enjoy the Likes and the acknowledgement someone has done TBR from my Reviews and Lists. I have frequently added books to my TBR from this group- especially with the State/World Challenge. But I f..."

I agree Wendy. I think it's some kind of glitch in the system. There should be some other way of people approving of books on a person's TBR list than 'liking' a review they've never written.


message 811: by Carol (new)

Carol (carolfromnc) | 15200 comments I think there are only two actions you can take, from a tech perspective, on GoodReads. You can create an update, or everything else is a "review". Changing your shelf status, updating the content of a review, etc. - it's all recognized as a review by the system.

So if your friend takes an action, you're either liking an update or liking a review.

Having said that, I'll admit that my initial reaction might have come across more vehement - we can all always agree to disagree - because I recall after I'd been active on this platform a couple months - bumping into a thread in one of my groups where one user was complaining about how awful it was that other users sometimes like older reviews. Her net viewpoint, with which others in the convo agreed, was that only brand spanking new reviews should ever be liked. I determined then that the friends whose updates and comments I most enjoy are those who engage with all of my many activities - they support me in liking older reviews, new reviews, no reviews, whining, posting quotes, gaining new friends, etc. The key is for all of us to find a tribe where we're welcome and don't feel as though we're triggering someone else's no-no button. I wish everyone luck with that, since it brings much book happiness, lol.


message 812: by Barbara (last edited Nov 06, 2018 11:57AM) (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9974 comments I'm not clear why people would object to someone liking an 'old' review. That seems nuts.

Maybe a person just came across it recently and liked it. I'm always pleased when one of my 'old' reviews gets some new likes. 😊🍀💖


message 813: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) Barbara wrote: "I'm not clear why people would object to someone liking an 'old' review. That seems nuts.

Maybe a person just came across it recently and liked it. I'm always pleased when one of my 'old' reviews ..."


Exactly!!!


message 814: by Carol (new)

Carol (carolfromnc) | 15200 comments Barbara wrote: "I'm not clear why people would object to someone liking an 'old' review. That seems nuts.

Maybe a person just came across it recently and liked it. I'm always pleased when one of my 'old' reviews ..."


They wanted to maintain their reputation for reviewing current books, and viewed it as a faux pas for another user to like old content. Other friends don’t want anyone to like their ratings if there is a review coming; we’re all supposed to wait until they populate the review with ... their review. So c’est la vie. I want people to engage with any action or content connected to me, and wouldn’t discourage any positive actions, and I’m okay annoyed that some folks simply must control others’ actions. But now I probably need to watch more dog gifs :)


message 815: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Carol wrote: "Barbara wrote: "I'm not clear why people would object to someone liking an 'old' review. That seems nuts.

Maybe a person just came across it recently and liked it. I'm always pleased when one of m..."


Current books aren't always the best books. Just sayin'.


message 816: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments I'm always happy if someone likes one of my reviews, new or old. If they share book interests, I send them a friend request if they aren't already friends.


message 817: by T (new)

T (twoo) Thomas wrote: "I'm always happy if someone likes one of my reviews, new or old. If they share book interests, I send them a friend request if they aren't already friends."

Second that....I guess I use GR more for me - track the books, leave my two cents whether anyone likes it or not.

Frankly I'm amazed if I get any response on some bread crumb I've left (ooh! I got email!). Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. I stopped playing games cuz I'd get a little nutty that so many folks would forget to page forward and respond to the last entry when maybe we had a hilarious streak going on - but that's my quirk and my problem to resolve...if it brings them enjoyment however it's played, cool...if it bothers me, I wander off to go find another bright shiny thing (or book!).

Cheers, folks - enjoy what pleases you....


message 818: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments I had NO idea this would create such a storm!
I agree with "T". My first reaction is almost always "OOOOO! I got responses from: my review, my comments. Or I got a Friend Request!!
Thomas, for me, I kinda ask for friend requests and accept friend requests in a certain way. I often compare book readings to mine and read reviews. If there is enough agreement I usually accept.
I will NOT accept a Friend Request from some strange author who has no TBR listing other than their own books, no reviews and no comments contributing to a thread.etc. I get those requests about 6 times a year....


message 819: by T (new)

T (twoo) LOL...so the dude who is randomly putting answers into the games without regard to the intent of the games would be blocked by me if I could block him. But then again, so would the people who forget to page forward to respond to the last post, not their last post....

I'm kidding, because I am the one with the "alternate alphabet" and often am equally too blind to see that there is a whole new page of responses from my last page of responses.

Happy Thanksgiving to those who celebrate it....


message 820: by Kirsten (new)

Kirsten  (kmcripn) I set up a question they're required to answer before I accept their friend request


message 821: by Patty (new)

Patty | 4459 comments I was wondering if he’s just not catching on?


message 822: by T (new)

T (twoo) Patty wrote: "I was wondering if he’s just not catching on?"

In multiple games, I think he was just trying to rabble rouse a bit...First one had a link to a book, not sure if it was his and it was an attempt to promote. We just stepped around him.....


message 823: by Barbara (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9974 comments Occasionally a 'new friend' immediately asks me to read and review their book. I don't appreciate that.


message 824: by Carol (new)

Carol (carolfromnc) | 15200 comments Barbara wrote: "Occasionally a 'new friend' immediately asks me to read and review their book. I don't appreciate that."

Yeah — that’s an instant ‘remove friend’ act for me.


message 825: by T (new)

T (twoo) I would second that, but it's not happened to me yet...Probably because I rarely accept new friend requests unless they look legitimate - ie, they have friends, they have book reviews, they have books on their lists that match up with mine or they look like interesting people.... yeah, I'm a snob, but as I've said before, I'm more into this for me, than for social purposes....


message 826: by Lena (new)

Lena Who has heard of the Staunch Prize and is excited!
http://staunchbookprize.com/about-2/


message 827: by Bill (new)

Bill Lena wrote: "Who has heard of the Staunch Prize and is excited!
http://staunchbookprize.com/about-2/"


I'd never heard of it, but it definitely sounds different. Thanks.


message 828: by Patty (new)

Patty | 4459 comments The Staunch Book Prize: How refreshing!


message 829: by Lena (last edited Nov 27, 2018 08:58PM) (new)

Lena Patty wrote: "The Staunch Book Prize: How refreshing!"

Yes, I thought so too! I am going to read On the Java Ridge out of principle.


message 830: by Patty (new)

Patty | 4459 comments I saw that book as the winner.


message 831: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments Lena wrote: "Who has heard of the Staunch Prize and is excited!
http://staunchbookprize.com/about-2/"


I like it!


message 832: by Barbara (new)

Barbara (cinnabarb) | 9974 comments I like it too.


message 833: by Peter (new)

Peter Thompson (peterjthompson) | 8 comments That's a great idea, there is a whole industry built around women in distress. But the consumers of these novels, movies and TV shows are mostly women.


message 834: by Patty (new)

Patty | 4459 comments I was just having this conversation yesterday with my tattoo guy. The trope is so predictable and numbing. It’s also disturbing the number of ways people come up with victimizing women.

I had a discussion with a horror writer friend of mine about this—on Facebook, other writers chimed in—can’t remember much of what was said. But the gist was, they were defensive about it.


message 835: by Lena (new)

Lena I’m sure they are. This “radical” idea messes with their income and ease of ideas.
But if we started reading staunch thrillers they would dig deep and start writing staunch thrillers.


message 836: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments Are there chocolate lovers in this group? See this for book theme chocolate.
https://www.openbookchocolates.com/?w...


message 837: by Icewineanne (new)

Icewineanne | 349 comments Lena wrote: "Who has heard of the Staunch Prize and is excited!
http://staunchbookprize.com/about-2/"


I’m definitely planning on reading all of the books that were nominated for this prize!


message 838: by T (new)

T (twoo) For all those PNW folks....stay warm and safe, hope you got your groceries and have powered up all your devices......I, for one, will be most delighted if the weather forecasters are wrong wrong wrong for the next 7-10 days with regards to the Washington State impending snowpocalypse!


message 839: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments Here in Western New York, we have had in one week, a blizzard, deep freeze, record warmth(60F), flooding, ice storm and high winds today.


message 840: by Bill (new)

Bill Thomas wrote: "Here in Western New York, we have had in one week, a blizzard, deep freeze, record warmth(60F), flooding, ice storm and high winds today."

I remember having the same types of weather when I lived in Ottawa, Thomas... one reason I was happy to move out west..


message 841: by Thomas (last edited Feb 08, 2019 10:40AM) (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments Bill wrote: "Thomas wrote: "Here in Western New York, we have had in one week, a blizzard, deep freeze, record warmth(60F), flooding, ice storm and high winds today."

I remember having the same types of weathe..."


:)


message 842: by Michael (new)

Michael (micky74007) I really feel sorry for my snowbound friends. We are having absolutely beautiful weather in Florida right now. Still a few months from hurricane season, one of our two seasons here. The other is tourist season.


message 843: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
Michael wrote: "I really feel sorry for my snowbound friends. We are having absolutely beautiful weather in Florida right now. Still a few months from hurricane season, one of our two seasons here. The other is to..."

The weather has been so weirdly warm here (FL) that we actually opened our pool in February. Normally it's mid-April.


message 844: by Thomas (new)

Thomas (tom471) | 2004 comments All the snow has finally melted. On the upside, we don't get hurricanes.


message 845: by T (new)

T (twoo) Seattle is slated for a couple days in the 70s this week - summer in Seattle! ;-)


message 846: by Nancy, Co-Moderator (new)

Nancy Oakes (quinnsmom) | 10110 comments Mod
T wrote: "Seattle is slated for a couple days in the 70s this week - summer in Seattle! ;-)"

The weather is so messed up.


message 847: by T (new)

T (twoo) Yep, can't think of when we had so many consecutive "snow on the ground" days!


message 848: by Bill (new)

Bill Similar warm temps on Vancouver Island... My sprinkler guy is coming tomorrow... lol


message 849: by T (new)

T (twoo) So, what's up with all the "test" posts?


message 850: by Wendy (new)

Wendy | 581 comments T I do not see them?


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