Austenesque Lovers TBR Challenge 2023 discussion

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message 51: by wosedwew (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments I know, I know. I said I was done but here is one more.

Caroline Darcy dies by a fall down the stairs when she was rushing to meet her lover.
https://www.dwiggie.com/derby/old_200...


message 52: by wosedwew (last edited Feb 10, 2023 06:19PM) (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments abmom wrote: "Hi, I remember reading the synopsis of a book in which Georgiana elopes before Darcy reaches Ramsgate but learns about Wickham midway and escapes and gets help from Elizabeth and the Gardiners who ..."

Maybe this one:
Affectionate Hearts: A Pride and Prejudice Variation by Cassandra B. Leigh

There was another one I liked where Elizabeth stays behind at an inn so there is room in the Gardiners' carriage to help Georgiana escape Wickham. I will try to find it, or maybe someone else recognizes it.
OK, I thought of it:
Foiled Elopement: A Pride and Prejudice Variation by Renata McMann


message 53: by abmom (new)

abmom | 152 comments I think it's Cassandra's book. Thank you all!


message 54: by Sam (last edited Feb 13, 2023 02:19AM) (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments J. W. wrote: "I saw that, Adele. Caroline is absolutely horrid. Poor Darcy. I wanted him to threaten her with Scotland [as I've seen in other stories] but he didn't. He was WAY too nice. I can't wait to see what..."

Me too! but I have to wait till there are a bunch more chapters out,. Seeing how awful it is for Darcy is stomach aching.


message 55: by J. W. (new)

J. W. Garrett (jeannewallacegarrett) | 600 comments I agree, Sam. I almost didn't start it due to the theme. I'd rather see him take her to task, than yield to her compromise.


message 56: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments I'm not searching for a particular book, but I remember at one point seeing a list with NSN Jane. I have looked and cannot find it. The few books I remember with NSN Jane are not on any lists right now. I always have difficulty finding lists.


message 57: by J. W. (last edited Feb 20, 2023 10:07AM) (new)

J. W. Garrett (jeannewallacegarrett) | 600 comments This is in NO way complete. It is a list I have in a trope file I try to keep for myself. You are welcome to see if it is what you were looking for.

[Unpub] A Bitter Pill: IDB531: http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...

[Unpub] A Judge of Their Characters: Lucrezia*: http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...

[Unpub] A Matter of manipulation: Lady Jaeza: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13042700...

[*Unpub] A Second Chance at Love: I found my Mr. Darcy a.k.a. Kay Bea https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14005043...

[*Unpub] Alliances and the Artifice of War: yamroytin
https://meryton.com/aha/index.php?/to...
Blurb: “A betrayal and a codicil, lead to unlikely aims and alliances”
Mr. Bennet died. Elizabeth, Mary, and Kitty were from his first marriage. He then remarried ‘that horrid woman’ and she had other daughters Jane and Lydia. This is also a NSNJ story and a NSN Charles Bingley. He was blackmailing Darcy. He was in the hole for 20K and Hurst was dipping into the coffers for his proclivities.

[KU] Banished: Shana Granderson

[Unpub] Bonded Hearts: Fancyface8105: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12486751...
Another NSNJ story: Bennet never told Elizabeth about her birth mother who died from childbed fever. He then married Miss Fanny Gardiner and had the rest of the girls. Elizabeth was never allowed to go out into public so she wouldn’t take attention away from Jane.

Darcy’s Happy Compromise: Zoe Burton: FMS trope: A reviewer pointed mentioned the story contained a NSN M/M Bennet and a NSN Jane. Only Mary showed some redeeming qualities. Mystery trope: someone was trying to kill Elizabeth.

Dearest Friends: Pamela Lynne
This was a very different Jane that I labeled the NSNJ [not-so-nice-Jane] trope. Throughout the story, we see her every emotion run the gamut from anger, bitterness, fear, jealously, resentment, hatred, envy and disdain. Yep, she acted out on several occasions and didn’t necessarily come out the winner. She was distraught over Bingley and wondered what happened after he left Netherfield and never returned? She resented how the Darcy, Fitzwilliam, and de Bourgh families rallied around Lizzy and placed a protective barrier between them. Even Uncle and Aunt Gardiner showed Lizzy preference. Jane was the beauty in the family, and it was she who was to secure the family by marrying a rich man. Her mother had always said it was so. Why was Bingley hedging in his pursuit? How was it that Lizzy caught such a wealthy suitor? Why did he choose Lizzy over herself? What did Darcy see in Lizzy? And, Jane wondered why everyone watched her with concern and distrust? Yeah, a very different Jane.

[Unpub] Fleeing Destiny: Fancyface8105:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12516567...
http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...
NSNJ story: Jane attempted to compromise Darcy. She poisoned Elizabeth’s opinion of Darcy until Elizabeth overheard Jane’s true feelings for her.

Happier in Her Friends Than Relations: Jayne Bamber

In the Wilds of Derbyshire: Jann Rowland

[Unpub] Letters From Derbyshire: Lucrezia*: http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?&...

Mistaken: Jessie Lewis: Jane: This little witch made her mark and contributed to the grief and anguish of ODC. She and Bingley were a pair. They deserve each other.

Mr. Darcy - A Man of Honour: Jadie Brooks

[Unpub] Most Delightfully Situated Through Her Means: Ms. Pimprenelle: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12766162...

No, Mr Darcy: Sydney Salier: review said Jane was evil

[Unpub] Not my Jane!: Ms. Pimprenelle: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12940152/1/

On the Road to Ramsgate: Melanie Schertz

[Unpub] Quirks of Fate: MandieS1978: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/13099696...

Rain and Retribution: L.L. Diamond

[Unpub] The Duchess of Devonshire: Fancyface8105: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12276851...
The widow, Mrs. Lewis, compromised the grieving Mr. Bennet and threatened a scandal for his daughters, Elizabeth and Mary. He agreed to marry her and she and her pernicious daughters moved into Longbourn. This was a NSNJ [not-so-nice-Jane] story.

[Unpub] The Triumphant Emergence of Elizabeth Darcy: HelenaMira:
http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...

[Unpub] The Triumphant Emergence of Elizabeth Darcy: HelenaMira:
http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...

[Unpub] The Suitors: A Judge of Their Characters #2: Lucrezia*: http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...

[Unpub] Their Share of Vexations: Lucrezia*: http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...
Jane Bennet: wow… seems like I have run into several stories of late with a bad Jane. Man… this little b-witch was a royal pain and took out her dissatisfaction and discontent on her beloved sister. This was heart breaking and disconcerting as we watched the relationship and sisterhood between her and Lizzy dissolve right before our eyes. It was painful but from the ashes developed another relationship that we rarely get to witness. Jane got what she thought she wanted and now has to live with it.

[Unpub] Thirty Days of Silver: Lucrezia*: http://meryton.com/aha/index.php?show...

[Unpub] Voices in the Dark: a Pride & Prejudice Variation: Lady Jaeza: a.k.a. Jaeza Rayleigh
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12830725... [note: has now been published]

When We Are Married: A Pride and Prejudice Variation: Caitlin Williams

[Unpub] William: Jannet Doe: https://m.fanfiction.net/s/9317501/1/
Elizabeth was pregnant by Darcy and married another due to machinations by Jane


message 58: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments J. W. wrote: "This is in NO way complete. It is a list I have in a trope file I try to keep for myself. You are welcome to see if it is what you were looking for.

[Unpub] A Bitter Pill: IDB531: http://meryton...."


Thank you! I wonder if we should create a list.


message 59: by wosedwew (last edited Feb 20, 2023 11:58AM) (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments Do you use the Jane Austen FanFiction Index?

Go to "by Category" to "Altered Personalities" to "Less Angelic or Bad Jane Bennet" to find a list. I didn't check, but I think all of Jeanne's listed above are there, plus quite a few more.

https://www.jaffindex.com/ff_entry.php


message 60: by abmom (new)

abmom | 152 comments I was reading a fanfiction which reminded me of two other stories one of which has Elizabeth falling into a frozen pond near Netherfield and Darcy rescues her and the other one happens in London where Darcy (re)meets Elizabeth and the Gardiners while ice skating with Georgiana. He bumps into a Gardiner child and falls down. Does these ring a bell?


message 61: by Katja (new)

Katja | 439 comments She ran away agitated about something and fell in a creek? It was dark but Darcy dived after her and couldnt find her at first. She thought he was a vision when he found her under the water?


message 62: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments wosedwew wrote: "Do you use the Jane Austen FanFiction Index?

Go to "by Category" to "Altered Personalities" to "Less Angelic or Bad Jane Bennet" to find a list. I didn't check, but I think all of Jeanne's listed ..."


Where do I find "by category"?


message 63: by Sam (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments I think I had asked this a couple of years ago. Wouldn't the list still show up in the thread of 2021?


message 64: by abmom (new)

abmom | 152 comments Yes, Katja! I think so.


message 65: by wosedwew (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments Linda wrote: "wosedwew wrote: "Do you use the Jane Austen FanFiction Index?

Go to "by Category" to "Altered Personalities" to "Less Angelic or Bad Jane Bennet" to find a list. I didn't check, but I think all of..."


Under "Quick Searches"
It is on the top line of options "by Category, Pride & Prejdice only"


message 67: by abmom (new)

abmom | 152 comments Yes, Katja! You're right. Thank you! Did anyone remember the other story?


message 68: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments I read a book a while ago where Jane, Elizabeth (and maybe Mary) are the children of Mr. Bennet's first wife. The first wife died in childbirth, and everyone thought the son died at birth, too. But in reality the son went to live with the grandparents, who are wealthy and maybe titled. In time, Miss Gardiner becomes Mrs. Bennet. The girls live at Longbourn but their relatives call them to London.


message 69: by wosedwew (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments Is this it?
First Mrs. Bennet dies, son Tommy goes to live with his grandparents. Girls stay with Mr. B. who is compromised by Mr. Bingley's widow. Evil stepmother and stepsisters story.

Cinder-Liza: A Pride and Prejudice Vagary


message 71: by J. W. (new)

J. W. Garrett (jeannewallacegarrett) | 600 comments Don't forget

The Duchess of Devonshire

Elizabeth and Mary were sisters while Mrs. Lewis [who had Jane, Kitty, and Lydia] compromised their father who was in mourning. His wife had died in childbirth and the son 'Tom' Thomas Bennet Jr. Viscount Radcliff was being raised by their grandfather Lord William Jordan, the Earl of Holder. Lady Jersey was Elizabeth's godmother.


message 72: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments wosedwew wrote: "Is this it?
First Mrs. Bennet dies, son Tommy goes to live with his grandparents. Girls stay with Mr. B. who is compromised by Mr. Bingley's widow. Evil stepmother and stepsisters story.

[book:Cin..."


I know I never read Cinder-Liza, and in An Endeavour to be Worthy the son died. I thing it was the Duchess of Devonshire.

Thank you!


message 73: by Ceri (new)

Ceri | 37 comments I saw a book on Goodreads the other day and I meant to mark it TBR and I forgot. I definitely got to it via an email update from this group but I am not sure if it was directly mentioned or if I got there by clicking on another book. I can't find it in my emails.

The book is a P&P one. If I am recalling the details correctly Mrs Bennet goes with her daughters to London in January. She realises that Bingley has been kept from Jane and wants to sort this out but gets caught in an accident and dies. She then lingers on as a ghost but can somehow talk to Darcy. It sounded like a funny premise so I wanted to have a closer look at it. Does this ring a bell for anybody?


message 75: by Ceri (new)

Ceri | 37 comments Yes, that's it, thank you Linda,


message 76: by Sam (last edited Feb 25, 2023 10:18AM) (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments OK, I know it isn't All That This Entails, or Pride & Perception: a Pride & Prejudice variation.

At the beginning of the book Darcy condescendingly tells Elizabeth they can only be friends due to the disparity in their consequences.
She calmly accepts. Then turns around to Longbourn where she tells her father. He replies you didn't tell him? She says -of course not (or something like that).
Obviously the Bennets are more than they seem...

Can't recall the name of the book!


message 77: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments Is it Consequence & Consequences: "Ooops" A Regency Romance inspired by P&P? In it, Mr. Bennet becomes a duke and Elizabeth is named as his heir.


message 78: by Sam (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments Yes! Thank you!! was giving me brain hives LOL


message 79: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments I'm trying to remember a story I read. In it, D&E are married due to a compromise or other forced marriage scenario. Once they get to Pemberley, Elizabeth wants to move Lady Anne's desk, because it is too tall for her, but Darcy gets all in a tiff about it.


message 80: by wosedwew (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments I remember that incident. I must think on it for a while.


message 81: by Sam (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments Was it Nameless?
Isn't it that Lady C blows a gasket and then Darcy has to get involved?


message 82: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments Sam wrote: "Was it Nameless?
Isn't it that Lady C blows a gasket and then Darcy has to get involved?"


It wasn't Nameless, I haven't read that.


message 83: by wosedwew (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments In the book I was remembering, E ends up giving the larger desk to Georgiana, since it was her mother's originally. She wanted a smaller desk for her room.

I think it was an FMS story but I haven't identified it.


message 84: by Sam (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments Rose, it's not Being Mrs. Darcy?


message 85: by Sam (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments which book or series starts out and ends with Elizabeth teasing ( at the beginning he is a stranger) Mr Darcy in the theater?
she sees him being sad and slowly smiles at him from below until he smiles back.
and it ends with them hosting a dinner and she does the same thing from her end of the table?.
I had thought it was Her unforgettable laugh, but it's not that


message 86: by Sophia (new)

Sophia (sophiarose) | 723 comments Mod
Sam wrote: "which book or series starts out and ends with Elizabeth teasing ( at the beginning he is a stranger) Mr Darcy in the theater?
she sees him being sad and slowly smiles at him from below until he smi..."


Is it Chance Encounters by Linda Wells, Sam? I know they spy each other in the theater and do a smile exchange.


message 87: by Sam (new)

Sam H. | 828 comments Yes, that seems to be the one!
Thanks Sophia


message 88: by Sophia (new)

Sophia (sophiarose) | 723 comments Mod
You betcha!


message 89: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments Sam wrote: "Rose, it's not Being Mrs. Darcy?"

I don't think it is, because I never read Being Mrs. Darcy (I just started it) and at one point Darcy thinks how ugly his mother's desk was.


message 90: by Anne (new)

Anne | 196 comments Linda wrote: "Sam wrote: "Rose, it's not Being Mrs. Darcy?"

I don't think it is, because I never read Being Mrs. Darcy (I just started it) and at one point Darcy thinks how ugly his mother's desk was."


This desk thing is bothering me so much as I read it somewhat recently but can’t remember which book it was.


message 91: by Katja (new)

Katja | 439 comments I remember the desk scene too but *shrug*
I can't remember either


message 92: by Adele (new)

Adele (delbert59) | 59 comments I’ve read the desk scene in more than one book. It’s definitely in Nameless where Mrs DeBourgh goes nuts over E moving any furniture. In Being Mrs Darcy D thinks his mothers de orating is awful and is happy for E to decorate.
But there is another one where it’s D himself who doesn’t want anything moved. It’s a FMS and he is very unreasonable. E wants a different desk because she is shorter than Mrs D. I can’t think of that other book.


message 93: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments Adele wrote: "I’ve read the desk scene in more than one book. It’s definitely in Nameless where Mrs DeBourgh goes nuts over E moving any furniture. In Being Mrs Darcy D thinks his mothers de orating is awful and..."

That's the one I'm thinking of. That Lady Anne was much taller the E, and Darcy won't let her move a shorter desk into the mistress' study.


message 94: by Adele (new)

Adele (delbert59) | 59 comments @Linda I asked in a Facebook group I’m in and got this answer from 2 people

The desk is in The Scandalous Stepmother by Renata McMann and Summer Hanford,

If you haven’t read it it is a good book.


message 95: by wosedwew (new)

wosedwew | 411 comments Thanks, Adele. I never would have thought of that one.


message 96: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments Adele wrote: "@Linda I asked in a Facebook group I’m in and got this answer from 2 people

The desk is in The Scandalous Stepmother by Renata McMann and Summer Hanford,

If you haven’t read it it is a good book."


Thank you! I read it last year, and I agree it was a good book. I think it is time for a re-read.


message 98: by Katja (new)

Katja | 439 comments oh I have not read that one so it's not the one I was thinking of... must be a common sort of scene.


message 99: by Adele (new)

Adele (delbert59) | 59 comments @katja. I have recently noticed many authors use scenes from other fanfics as well as the original.
At some point Darcy always says to G “ how did you get so wise little one” or something much like that
Caroline always wears orange
Uncle Gardiner some how doubles Little Lizzie’s virtuously saved pin money every year
There are many other ones that I can’t remember right now


message 100: by Linda (new)

Linda | 223 comments Exactly, Adele. Mr. Darcy's uncle is always the Earl of Matlock.
Colonel Fitzwilliam's first name is always Richard.
Mr. Collins is often abusive, and he smells bad.

In fact, when I read Being Mrs Darcy, I got confused in the beginning because Colonel Fitzwilliam's first name was Thomas, and Mr. Darcy's uncle was the earl of Romsley.


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