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Ioana's 2023 Independent Challenge

Awwww, thank you. It was good, informative, but no emotion. I can't imagine I read about such a horrible event, the girls involved in it, and not even once had teary eyes. And I don't need much to get emotional...
Ioana wrote: "Alondra wrote: "YYEESSSSS!! Tons. I love free stuff; and youtube is the last vestige of it. LOL"
How did I not find them until now???"
YT is not popular or talked about. To me, it seems specific to the user. If you are looking for docs on poverty, there is a rabbit hole of info on YT; if you're looking for dance videos, there is a rabbit hole for that; so on, and so on. I watch YT more than regular tv; which I don't watch at all.
How did I not find them until now???"
YT is not popular or talked about. To me, it seems specific to the user. If you are looking for docs on poverty, there is a rabbit hole of info on YT; if you're looking for dance videos, there is a rabbit hole for that; so on, and so on. I watch YT more than regular tv; which I don't watch at all.

I agree. I've been through some rabbit holes myself. Easy to fall through, hard to come out. But you're right, it's not like FB where stuff you don't want gets thrown at you, you need to actually go look for it.
But wow, so many documentaries, now I need an extra life to watch YT 😱


On top of all this, so much linguistic history, origin of words and certain idioms, my head is spinning, and in a good way. Highly recommended, 4 stars. Maybe 4.5 even.

Glad to hear you enjoyed Babel. It was a four star read for me too. There is a lot in there to unpack.

I agree. This reader who generally does not enjoy fantasy, really enjoyed this one.

I agree. This reader who generally does not enjoy fantasy, really enjoyed t..."
It's a rare author who can write a unique and interesting fantasy story and still combine it with so much real world social commentary.

I hope you'll like it. I feel like I need to read it again, and take notes on all the sections about the origin of certain words. Those parts were fascinating.


When her daughter becomes sick of? from? porphyria, a rare genetic disease, her mother, Isabel Allende starts writing a book. It's about their family's history, Chile's history as she lived it, her life and thoughts, things she hopes to someday share with her daughter, when she would recover.
It's written in 2 basically long chapters: the first one when hope is still present, written as a story told to Paula. The 2nd one when reality hits and she realizes Paula will never recover, written in a different tone, more somber and heart breaking.
There are a lot of intertwined paragraphs, not always following in chronological order, but the way we talk...jumping from an idea to another, from a thought to another. However overall, a continuous thread keeps it all together.
As always, beautifully written. 4 stars.

Time loop/time travel kind of book, when Jen, the mother, witnesses her almost adult son stab and kill somebody.
The next day she wakes up on day -1, then day -2....and so on, going back in time, learning new things about her family and their relationships, further and further back to understand what triggered this and if it's possible to change the future.
A very entertaining read, 4 stars.


Good point, Patricia! And the more we read, the more we realize there are so many people and events worth knowing about that we've never heard of! Christiane Desroches-Noblecourt was one of those people.

Ioana wrote: "Christine. I've never seen the movie and I've read the blurb long time ago, when I added this to my TBR, so I didn't know what to expect. Imagine my surprise...Christine is a car! The ..."
Christine was hilarious. The best part of the book (view spoiler)
LOL
Christine was hilarious. The best part of the book (view spoiler)
LOL

LOL, so true! I did not see that coming 🤣

Yes, I knew about the Andrea Doria name (the boat, not the man) but nothing beyond that. This is the story of how/why the accident happened, the main characters, the rescue of the passengers, the aftermath, including the maritime code changes and the dives/divers to the wreckage. Really interesting, 3.5 stars

Lightning Down: A World War II Story of Survival. Interesting WW2 story about a downed pilot who ended up in Buchenwald. I had no idea military personnel was not treated as POWs, but sent to an extermination camp. The descriptions are raw and gruesome, what these men endured is beyond imagination. 3.5 stars, because it took too long for the story to find its rhythm.
The Family Upstairs. It was ok. Not bad, it kept me interested, and I am debating if to read the 2nd book in the series or not. 3 stars.
Lady Tan's Circle of Women Set in 15th century China, this reminded me of Snow Flower and the Secret Fan, but it did not match it. I enjoyed it, but I could not help reading it based on my values now, and wanting to scream at Yunxian and shake her. (view spoiler)
I feel Lisa See made this society prettier, less controversial than it probably was. 3 stars.

I really enjoyed The Family Upstairs as well as the next one. You definitely have to like a bit of crazy to like them.
I don't know if you do audio or have already read this one, but The Night She Disappeared is excellent on audio. Narrated by Joanne Froggatt (of Downton Abby fame).

I really enjoyed The Family Upstairs as well as the next one. You definitely have to like a bit ..."
LOL, it surely looks like that. I'm not in a reading slump, but I can't find that book to not be able to put down. I'm still searching...
Yes, I do audiobooks a lot, and The Night She Disappeared is on my TBR, I'll give it a try. Thanks for the recommendation.


I agree. None of these were bad, but not earth shattering either. Lady Tan was fine, but I did not get emotionally invested in it as I was in Snow Flower and the Secret Fan. For me, a 5 stars books needs that.
The Family Upstairs was my first Lisa Jewell too, and I'll read more of her books; I just don't feel the need to rush to it.

I think this book that actually spans over 5 maybe 6 or 7 with the intro in the book, took a whole season in the TV show 🤣
A good, entertaining boo. 3.5 stars

Ghosts Of Gold Mountain: The Epic Story of the Chinese Who Built the Transcontinental Railroad Interesting non-fiction book, about the Chinese workers, their lives and struggles while building the US Transcontinental Railroad in the 1860s. Unfortunately, had too many dry chapters...
Think of a Number 1st in a new series, that looks promising, even though I found some of detective's Dave Gurney deductions a little bit too stretched. Leaping from A to B was a little bit too much at times, but it was entertaining.
Go Tell It on the Mountain I had high hopes for this, and it may be the monotonous tone of the audiobook that made me take an extra star from it. This was one of those books that have an interesting premise and a poor delivery, it just felt disjoined.
Falling A book club read, where you know from the 1st page how the book will end. All the characters are either black or white, very good or very bad, depending on who they are: Americans or terrorists. But a page turner, and it was a fun read for a couple of summer days.

Conqueror the 5th and last in a very good series, which follows the Mongol empire from Genghis Khan to Kublai Khan. Really fascinating, and I will definitely read the author's other series about the Ancient Rome and The War of Roses. 4 stars.
Ioana wrote: "The list of 3-stars reads continue. None of these were bad, and none were amazing. I'm glad I read them, but the search for the next 4-5 stars continues..."
I hate when that happens. I usually have such high hopes for a read, and when the pacing tanks or the plot is ridiculous, I just tune out.
I hope next month is better for you.
I hate when that happens. I usually have such high hopes for a read, and when the pacing tanks or the plot is ridiculous, I just tune out.
I hope next month is better for you.

I know there must be some great books out there...

Ioana wrote: "I know I am getting stingyer with my stars, but I've only had 2 5-stars books this year. Then almost equal numbers of 3 and 4 stars, with the 3 stars winning the race. Not bad, but not what I was h..."
You'll find some more 5-star reads. I'm finding the same but am exploring a bit more. Maybe that's the reason?
You'll find some more 5-star reads. I'm finding the same but am exploring a bit more. Maybe that's the reason?

Could be...I don't know. I've started a few more series this year, none bad, but none brilliant. Maybe they will get better as the characters get developed more, fingers crossed.



This was a fascinating story. Martin Pistorius, 12, comes home from school and in a matter of days becomes bed-ridden, unable to talk, unable to move his arms, hands, legs and nobody can tell why. His brain function is also gone. Many years pass and at some point a nurse realizes his brain is actually functioning. It came back at some point, the coma lifted, but nobody noticed, and he was trapped in his body for years.
There are gruesome stories of abuse, painful times of not being able to tell anyone if something hurts, or food is too hot, or watching Barney on TV over and over again drove him nuts, but in the end he escapes and learns to communicate via an AAC device.
There's more to it, and I really enjoyed it. 4 stars.

The Firemaker, my first Peter May book. I really enjoyed this police procedural one, set in China, with lots of references to the Chinese life and culture. Will definitely continue this series. 4 stars.
Saga, Volume 6 and Saga, Volume 7. The story of Marko, Alana and Hazel continues, and it's very good. Another series I will continue, 4 stars.
The Haunting of Hill House is a horror classic, but I did not find it scary at all, which was fine with me, and the progression of the story was nicely paced. I did not love it, but I'm glad I've read it, 3 stars.
Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City is about a world I know little of. While set in Milwaukee, Wisconsin it can be the same in any major US city, and it's truly sad and disturbing. These are working or disabled people, and not without income. Some are on SSI, some on low paying jobs, but the housing market and the landlords always have the upper hand. Extremely sad and eye-opening, 4 stars.
Ioana wrote: "End of September update:
The Firemaker, my first Peter May book. I really enjoyed this police procedural one, set in China, with lots of references to the Chinese life and culture. Wi..."
Great update, Ioana.
I agree; Haunting of Hill House is not scary; but it is enjoyable. Glad you checked it off your list.
The Firemaker, my first Peter May book. I really enjoyed this police procedural one, set in China, with lots of references to the Chinese life and culture. Wi..."
Great update, Ioana.
I agree; Haunting of Hill House is not scary; but it is enjoyable. Glad you checked it off your list.

Yessss, cool story and graphics! I think it was you who suggested it first, so thank you!

It's the story of 5 young children, each removed from their indigenous (Canadian) family to be raised in a residential school, run by white nuns. Each has their own past, their own path of getting out of the school, and their own way to cope with the past and the present. There is torture and abuse, and it's not an easy read.
Unfortunately, I disliked both the writing (both style and content) and the narration. The entire book is written in short sentences, which made the story disjoint and there are big gaps in time that are not explained; the reader needs to figure out that the new chapter is actually years later, but there is no bridge to explain what happened during all the years. 3.5 stars, rounded up because of the topic.


Yes, some important ones, and on topics that I didn't know much about. Which makes 18 NF books for the year, so far. Not bad 😉

The entire book is fascinating, and should be read. 4 solid stars.



Hmmm, maybe you should 🤔

Set in South Carolina, told from Bone's (who's 13) point of view this book is about so many things...poverty, family, child abuse, physical and sexual, life in general, and life in a poor white southern family, where children abound and men are short tempered, drink and have a hard time holding a job; a low paying job. It's dark and depressing and heart wrenching, but it kept me interested and invested.
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Even when you give a less than stellar review, you tweak my interest in another nonfiction. You are my best nonfiction resource. If Ioana liked it I better try to get it on the hold list.