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message 1: by Nancy (new)

Nov 02, 2022 12:24PM

Nancy Corrigan (nancy_corrigan) | 15 comments

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message 2: by Tami (new)

Nov 02, 2022 02:06PM

Royal- Kagan already exists https://www.goodreads.com/series/1709...

Shifter affairs already exists https://www.goodreads.com/series/2222...

Shifter World again already exists, these are omnibuses of that other series, I added 7-8 that was missing from series page. However this book that you've linked as book 4 https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... seems to be the omnibus for this series, that is 1-4 https://www.goodreads.com/series/2222... is that correct?

Wild Hunt already exists https://www.goodreads.com/series/1330... added book 4 which was missing. Can you please confirm if these are the same books?

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2... and https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...

Royals and Alphas I was about to do this one but noticed some of it already exist, what I mean is that it is my understanding there is a clean version of these same series, some of the works are combined with the non-clean version and thus are already in the series with the same name that is the non-clean version...

Agents of Shifter Affairs Same as the one above.

In general it's best to create a request for each series or break it down in fewer request, say 3 requests [two series per request for example]. As it is it might get confusing.

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message 3: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

Nov 02, 2022 04:13PM

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Tami wrote: "Royals and Alphas I was about to do this one but noticed some of it already exist, what I mean is that it is my understanding there is a clean version of these same series, some of the works are combined with the non-clean version and thus are already in the series with the same name that is the non-clean version..."

All "clean" and "spicy" (or whatever synonym is being used) editions of each work should be combined into a single work.

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message 4: by Tami (last edited Nov 02, 2022 05:01PM) (new)

Nov 02, 2022 04:59PM

Ok, thank you. Most was combined by someone else. I added the omnibus to this series https://www.goodreads.com/series/2222... as I could confirm they are the same books per the book's titles.

Combined https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... had missed the note that says "Includes the prologue to the series, Sacrificed. This novel was previously released as Sacrificed and Betrayed." so should be the same content.

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message 5: by Nancy (new)

Nov 03, 2022 04:34AM

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message 6: by Tami (last edited Nov 03, 2022 10:10AM) (new)

Nov 03, 2022 10:08AM

The ASIN for the series you provided is this https://www.amazon.com/-/en/dp/B0BKRR... however these are all omnibuses for the series they are currently in, per their descriptions.

1- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... "Royal-Kagan titles included: Treasured Find, Beautiful Mistake, Favorite Obsession" Those are books 1 to 3 of the Royal-Kagan series as seen here https://www.goodreads.com/series/1709...

2 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... "Royal-Kagan titles included: Chance on Love, Rejected Mate, Shared Mate" Those are books 4 to 6 of the Royal-Kagan series.

3- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... "Royal-Kagan titles included: Last Chance, Forbidden Mate" Those are books 7 and 8 of the Royal-Kagan series.

4- https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... "Shifter Affairs titles included: Rescued, Claimed, Tangled, Possessed" Those are books 1 to 4 of the Shifter Affairs series as seen here https://www.goodreads.com/series/2222...

So they are definitely where they are supposed to go.. I think you want to make a series only for omnibuses. Not sure if that's ok with Goodreads policies as I've never personally encountered such a series before.

Nancy wrote: "These are the only books that should be listed in the wild hunt series. Anything already linked is out of print."

The books you link are already listed in the series. We do not remove out-of-print editions. As librarians we can only list the work as a whole, the system by default chooses the edition shown as the one with the highest number of shelvings. Librarians cannot choose which edition shows as default, but you as a verified author can, please follow the instructions found here https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...

Nancy wrote: "These books are not the same and should not be linked. Please separate."

Ok, my bad. I separated them, and added to series.

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message 7: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

Nov 03, 2022 10:17AM

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Tami wrote: "I think you want to make a series only for omnibuses. Not sure if that's ok with Goodreads policies as I've never personally encountered such a series before."

That would not be something we would generally do. (Exceptions for series with dozens/hundreds of books and/or completely different sets of numbering are sometimes made. That does not apply here.)

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message 8: by Tami (new)

Nov 03, 2022 11:48AM

rivka wrote: "That would not be something we would generally do. (Exceptions for series with dozens/hundreds of books and/or completely different sets of numbering are sometimes made. That does not apply here.)"

Thank you!

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message 9: by Nancy (new)

Nov 04, 2022 04:06AM

Hi there,

Different sets of numbering does apply to the series of omnibus I'm requesting you add.
The title https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... must be numbered as #4 as it follows #3 in the reading order. So reading order must be numbered:
#1 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...
#2 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...
#3 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...
#4 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...

Also, the reviews for https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... did not transfer during separation. Can they be recovered?

On the numbering of the https://www.goodreads.com/series/1330... - is there any way to clarify this? The actual book #1 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... - is listed as 0.5-1 and shown at the bottom of the page which is misleading.

Thank you

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message 10: by Tami (new)

Nov 04, 2022 09:26AM

Nancy wrote: "Different sets of numbering does apply to the series of omnibus I'm requesting you add...."

Hello, please refer to rivka's reply above, the omnibuses are not a separate series per Goodreads policies as such they are where they are supposed to go with the numbering of their respective books, 1-3, 4-6, etc.

Nancy wrote: "Also, the reviews for https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... did not transfer during separation. Can they be recovered?"

The books were separated less than a day ago. It could take a day or so for the reviews and stats to update. Just keep in mind that the reviews and ratings that belonged to the other editions will not transfer to this one.

Nancy wrote: "On the numbering of the https://www.goodreads.com/series/1330... - is there any way to clarify this? The actual book #1 - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... - is listed as 0.5-1 and shown at the bottom of the page which is misleading."

Per Goodreads policies omnibuses should be listed at the end of the series. You confirmed on message 5 that Betrayed was an omnibus of Hunter Sacrificed [book 0.5] and Hunter Deceived [book 1] thus making Betrayed book 0.5-1.

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message 11: by Nancy (new)

Nov 04, 2022 10:42AM

Hi there,

In reference to message 7 "Exceptions for series with dozens/hundreds of books and/or completely different sets of numbering are sometimes made."

This situation is the "completely different set of numbering" as per rivka's exception example and I am humbly requesting the above exception be made.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6... is #4 of the series I'm requesting be added.

If that is not possible, the numbering must be changed to #9-12. It is not #1-4.
Thank you kindly.

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message 12: by Tami (new)

Nov 04, 2022 01:12PM

Please note that rivka said: "That does not apply here."

Nancy wrote: "If that is not possible, the numbering must be changed to #9-12. It is not #1-4."

The numbering can't be changed to #9-12 because the series is 1-4 books and the omnibus is not part of the Royal-Kagan series the Royal-Kagan series only has 8 books not 12. I'm really trying to understand why would it be #9-12 and the only conclusion is that both series are in the same world "Shifter World" and the Shifter Affairs series goes after [in chronological order] the Royan-Kagan series, is that correct?. I have seen series created for all the books in the same world [chronological order] but they included several series in the same world not only two and I never saw [personally] the omnibuses included in those series. So not sure if creating such series would apply here or that it would include the omnibuses which seems to be what you are asking.

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message 13: by Nancy (new)

Nov 04, 2022 04:01PM

That is correct. Both series "Royal-Kagan" and "Shifter Affairs" are in the same world "Shifter World" and the chronological order is as I stated above. Additional series in the same world will be released in 2023, in chronological order after https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6...

As such, this situation is the "completely different set of numbering" as per rivka's exception example and I am humbly requesting the above exception be made.
Thanks.

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