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2023 Booker Prize speculation
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Jul 31, 2023 01:39PM

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Haha okay fine you've convinced me.


First of Derek's rumors that is not a surprise to me.

Any indication on that? I feel it hinges on whether the Chair hates the way she write the book she had intended to write herself or loves it.


What Feeney David? Did I miss one of the rumors?


Old God's Time - Sebastian Barry
Study for Obedience - Sarah Bernstein
How to Build a Boat - Elaine Feeney
This Other Eden - Paul Harding
In Ascension - Martin MacInnes
The Bee Sting - Paul Murray
The House of Doors - Tan Twan Eng
The Feeney is conjectural. The Bernstein is unconfirmed.

Ah yes, I did note that. Thank you!

I agree. This is actually more of a traditional Booker list than what we've seen the last few years.


Griffiths is a poet. Is she a slam poet?

Her novel does sound interesting, although I find the fact that she would elect to marry an aging roué like Rushdie more than a little off-putting. Hard not to wonder why.

For me a theme is authors already featured
That’s Eng, Adebayo, Barry all I think shortlisted. Murray longlisted.


Agreed. This is a quite traditional longlist, if confirmed.

Hoping she is in the longlist though as would mean a Norfolk author.



Thank you so much for sharing all of this with us Derek!

I think Losing the Plot should make it all the way to the shortlist and would be a deserving winner, and I assume the same for Corey Fah, but I haven’t yet read Corey Fah. Sadly, I don’t expect to see Losing the Plot or Corey Fah because they are brilliant, artistic, sui generis novels and the Booker hasn’t been looking for brilliant, artistic, sui generis novels, they look for smart, readable books. Milkman’s win does give me some hope for Derek Owusu and Isabel Waidner though.

I know that I am not alone in saying that regardless of what kind of compromises the judges came to in creating their list Hungry Ghost and Losing the Plot are two of the most moving and beautifully written novels of the last several Booker seasons and both will be read for years to come.

I did - I read through every comment! If the rumours are accurate, this list is very different from any predictions I came across.

Ones I was hoping / expecting to see would include Corey Fah; The Long Form; Grimmish; The Way the Day Breaks; End of Nightwork; August Blue; Losing the Plot; Hungry Ghosts; Cuddy; Quinn; Where I End; Sleeping Car Porter; Book of X.
4.5 hours without a comment after all that excitement- isn't the calm supposed to come before the storm? Thanks for all the tips and entertainment - at least I have a few names and links in my spreadsheet. If I missed anything that required moderation, I apologise.
My comment about creating threads probably got buried in the avalanche, but it is quite likely that creating the book threads will get held up by the dreaded captchas, the fact that I'll be on the move at 9 a.m. and the "new" book page which takes longer to load and makes it harder to see edition info.
My comment about creating threads probably got buried in the avalanche, but it is quite likely that creating the book threads will get held up by the dreaded captchas, the fact that I'll be on the move at 9 a.m. and the "new" book page which takes longer to load and makes it harder to see edition info.

Looking again at the list: Eng, Murray, Barry, Adebayo, Escoffery...all relatively well-known authors/titles that I had heard of and even added to my TBR, but that I wasn't super excited to get to (and so in all likelihood would never have read if they hadn't been longlisted...)
But happy to give them a try now and surely there will be some positive surprises!

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