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message 1: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Well, this is bad news.

"As part of our dedication to improving Goodreads, we are phasing out a number of features in order to focus on the ones our members use most, and continue to improve the overall Goodreads experience. As of July 5, 2022, Goodreads will no longer support the ability to create new content for the book reviews recommendations/recommenders section, favorite authors list, creative writing, the condition and details about owned books, friend stories, trivia, quizzes, and adding additional photos to books. These features will no longer be available on the site on Sept. 1, 2022."

"Members will no longer be able to add photos to a book on book pages effective July 5, 2022 and the option will be removed from Goodreads on Sept. 1, 2022."

https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...

Does this mean we will no longer to be able to upload covers for books with no images? I wasn't clear what they meant by additional photos. If we can no longer add book covers, that renders the site almost useless in my opinion.

I certainly hope they don't get rid of Listopia or groups! If they do, I'm out of here. 99.99% of my time is spent on lists and on this group.


message 2: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments Sounds to me like Goodreads wants to get rid of the pesky customers and focus on shutdown of the service...


message 3: by Moloch (new)

Moloch | 342 comments Additional photos is NOT the covers. To be honest I've never really understood what it meant, but it's not the covers (it's been said many times by the librarian moderator rivka).

Sad, even though of these the only feature I was using regularly nowadays is the owned books/condition details

If you are interested in a more powerful tool for cataloguing your books I suggest LibraryThing: it used to be paid membership but not anymore, now it's 100% free. I have accounts here and there, Goodreads is mostly for groups and social (I think it's unlikely they will remove those), LibraryThing for cataloguing.


message 4: by Emily (new)

Emily | 295 comments Ingo wrote: "Sounds to me like Goodreads wants to get rid of the pesky customers and focus on shutdown of the service..."

Granted Goodreads only makes money from giveaways and ads. I and others have long said that Amazon needs to devote a lot more money and staff to Goodreads, since they put it on every Kindle device and appear to want people to use it.


message 5: by Emily (last edited Jun 16, 2022 08:57AM) (new)

Emily | 295 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "Does this mean we will no longer to be able to upload covers for books with no images? I wasn't clear what they meant by additional photos. If we can no longer add book covers, that renders the site almost useless in my opinion.
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An example would be
Jane Eyre
below the Want to Read button it says "more photos (18)."
It's hard to know which photos on a book are allowed and which aren't, except covers aren't allowed as Moloch mentioned.


message 6: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments Thanks for the info, guys!

I am grateful that they're not removing the ability to upload the actual book covers. Listopia seems popular, so I hope it's never on the chopping block. Gosh, I have like 800 lists! And I don't know what we'd do without our groups. There don't seem to be any other active sites for lost book searches.


message 7: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
Well, trivia seemed popular too. It makes me wonder what other things am I wasting time on now because they're going to be gone in 6 months. Are they going to remove settings and characters from the book data? Remove the "My Books" feature? Remove the stats page? Disable the ability to sort different categories on the stats page? Remove the infinite scroll?

They've already removed the functionality for so many features over the years, and a lot of it was done very sneakily, with no announcements.


message 8: by Bargle (last edited Jun 18, 2022 08:15AM) (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments I never liked 'infinite scrolls' for anything (not just here, any site that uses them). Anytime you get a long list of anything getting to bottom of the list for something takes a long time. I can see it being useful for fairly short lists, but I think there should be an automatic tipping point where the list shifts something like a 100 per page setup.


message 9: by Bargle (last edited Jun 18, 2022 08:24AM) (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "There don't seem to be any other active sites for lost book searches."

On the contrary, there's
Librarything's "Name that Book" https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/...

AbeBooks "Booksleuth" https://forums.abebooks.com/discussio...

Reddit's "What's That Book Called" https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthatbook/

I use all of them as well as here and have had success with all of them.


message 10: by Zev (new)

Zev | 360 comments Bargle, thank you for posting the threads that are offered on those sites! I was worrying about that last night, as I'm working on setting up a LibraryThing for myself in the coming week. This topic is so helpful and I'm glad it was put up. Thank you to everyone.


message 11: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
I use the "Recommended by" field of the book review to remind me where I heard about the book. E.g. New York Times, New Yorker, New York Review of Books, Atlantic, a particular podcast, another book, another author, etc.

GR intended us to fill the field with a GR friend who recommended it but I use it in a way that's more useful to me.

Now that's gone.


message 12: by Moloch (new)

Moloch | 342 comments Lobstergirl wrote: "I use the "Recommended by" field of the book review to remind me where I heard about the book. E.g. New York Times, New Yorker, New York Review of Books, Atlantic, a particular podcast, another boo..."

Yes, I used it that way too


message 13: by Bill (new)

Bill Even worse, they're removing the ability of users to add new books to the database, something I find myself doing at least once a month.

Someone quoted me the following from the librarians' group:
"As of June 20th 2022, Goodreads members who do not have Librarian or Author status will no longer be able to manually add book editions to the Goodreads catalog. While individual members have had the ability to add book records to the Goodreads catalog in the past, it has long been a source of book records that do not meet Goodreads standards for a valid book record, duplicate book records, and other low-quality book records. The member Help article will be updated to inform members that they must post in the Librarians Group to request the addition of new book records, and that this will ensure new book records meet Goodreads catalog inclusion and policy standards. Please note that our automated import feeds will continue to create new editions. There are currently no planned changes to that process."

So much for being able to catalog all the books I read. There are a few bad apples among the librarians who add things wrong and screw up books when making changes. I don't trust them to add books I could have added myself. Also, the additional delays caused by more librarian workload will mean days will go by where I forget half of what I wanted to say about the book before it gets added.

I'm going to get rid of several categories of books (and their reviews) that I've got cataloged here, because I won't be able to keep them updated. But I'll keep the categories associated with my active groups.


message 14: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments That's too bad, Bill, although I can understand why they're doing it.

There are several Librarians (including myself) on this thread. You can always post here and I'll see if I can add the book in question for you.


message 15: by Lobstergirl, au gratin (new)

Lobstergirl | 44894 comments Mod
I don't trust any website to keep a permanent, accurate record of my books. I started a spreadsheet eons ago and I've kept it up to date. Websites will come and go. Goodreads will not last forever. (Hopefully Excel will....)


message 16: by Kris (new)

Kris | 54888 comments Mod
I remember MySpace... One day I returned to find the site completely redesigned and everyone's content deleted. All gone. Lesson (from an older person): Save your data, kids.


message 17: by Kris (last edited Aug 10, 2022 08:46AM) (new)

Kris | 54888 comments Mod
Reminder:

"As of July 5, 2022, Goodreads will no longer support new creative writing. All creative writing will be removed from Goodreads on SEPTEMBER 1, 2022. If you’ve added creative writing to Goodreads that you’d like to keep, you can download it by requesting your Goodreads data . For more information, visit our help center ."


message 18: by Ingo (new)

Ingo (ilembcke) | 669 comments While there are lot of features I did not use which are going to be removed, I cannot understand the logic behind it.

There are also features I use which will be removed, no big ones, but Goodreads will be poorer without them nonetheless. And then there is no telling, who will leave and deprive us of their work.


message 19: by Paige (new)

Paige | 805 comments I just tried to add a book but couldn't. :(

So much for “ The Barred Road," by Adele De Leeuw.


message 20: by Rainbowheart (last edited Aug 10, 2022 08:50AM) (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments I can see it!

The Barred Road

I just added the cover and the summary from Worldcat.


message 21: by TinaNoir (new)

TinaNoir | 170 comments I export my book data from here periodically.

I know that a lot of discussion is around what they are removing. But since they seem to be notifying well in advance that you can request/get your data, I am not as concerned by that.

My concern is about how they plan to overhaul the navigability/look and feel of the site. I saw the beta version of the book page and I was not a fan. I gave feedback but not sure if any of my concerns were shared by other users giving feedback and/or if they'll make it to the final cut.


message 22: by Paige (new)

Paige | 805 comments Whoah. That's really weird. I searched for it by title and couldn't find it. I searched by looking through the author's works after I found her page, but couldn't find it. Very odd.


message 23: by Bargle (new)

Bargle | 1752 comments Paige wrote: "Whoah. That's really weird. I searched for it by title and couldn't find it. I searched by looking through the author's works after I found her page, but couldn't find it. Very odd."

It's there for me. (shrugs)


message 24: by Llynnya (new)

Llynnya | 131 comments I'm sad to see that the new version of the book page no longer has what listopia lists that book is on if any. I found a lot of good books I would have otherwise missed out on by following that trail.

Is listopia one of the features they are removing? I had just decided that every book I read I would add to at least one list, at least until the end of the year.


message 25: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments What??? I am not seeing this new book page redesign people have been talking about. Is there seriously no way to see which Listopia lists a book is on?

If they get rid of Listopia, I will cry. I've devoted 9 years to building up these lists.


message 26: by Emily (new)

Emily | 295 comments Rainbowheart wrote: "What??? I am not seeing this new book page redesign people have been talking about. Is there seriously no way to see which Listopia lists a book is on?."

It is still not rolled out to everyone yet.
I doubt they will get rid of the lists. Apparently it is just not possible to see what list a book is on...I haven't gotten the new page yet either.


message 27: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments This is really upsetting.

How are people supposed to find the lists if not from the book page? Very few people are going to check the Listopia main page. There's no purpose to the lists otherwise, which makes me worry that GR is going to axe them.


message 28: by Emily (last edited Aug 15, 2022 07:22PM) (new)

Emily | 295 comments You can't see the giveaways from the book page either, which people are asking about in Help also. Hopefully they will take some of this into account.


message 29: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28587 comments :( :( :(

Let's hope so. But sites never seem to care about their regular users.


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