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message 1: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Nominations are now open until June 22nd for the August 2022 Open Pick.

Nominating guidelines:
- Fiction (original & translation, if applicable) first published between January 1, 2000 and August 1, 2021. For translations the latter date must be an English edition.
- One nomination per person (please do not nominate or vote for a book unless you are certain you can read and discuss if it wins)
- A book this group has not yet read (see the group bookshelf or the Index of all Group Reads here)
- A book that is not better suited to the wild card (genre) category

If you are nominating, please begin your post by stating "I nominate [name with hyperlink to book]"

The discussion will start on August 1st


message 2: by Dianne (new)

Dianne | 248 comments I nominate Abigail by Magda Szabó


message 3: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments I nominate My Phantoms by Gwendoline Riley


message 4: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Thanks Emily. Dianne - sadly we can't allow Abigail, a book I liked a lot, because it was published in Hungary in 1970, so we can't really say it is 21st century.


message 5: by LindaJ^ (new)

LindaJ^ (lindajs) | 2548 comments There is, arguably, a precedent that favors allowing a book by Magna Sabzo published in Hungarian in the 20th century but not in English until the 21st century. Her book The Doors was chosen by the NYTimes as one of the 10 top books of the year in 2015 when it first appeared in an English version. I don’t think that has happened for any other author.


message 6: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
I think the rule is clear-cut. I wouldn't be averse to having another nominations round where normal rules are relaxed, but to me it seems wrong to allow writers in other languages greater flexibility than English language ones.


message 7: by Dianne (new)

Dianne | 248 comments I thought it was publication date in English?


message 8: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
No, for the earlier date it is any edition in any country or language, and that was supposed to ensure consistency. For the one year rule (the latter date) English matters because it is about easy availability to readers. Part of the aim was also to make it easier to check, though some translations are not correctly linked to the originals.


message 9: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments See what you mean, Hugh, thanks.


message 10: by Dianne (last edited Jun 16, 2022 06:58AM) (new)

Dianne | 248 comments Ok no problem. How about this one? I nominate The Thousand Autumns of Jacob de Zoet by David Mitchell


message 11: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Thanks Dianne - that one is fine. Nominations close at the end of today - are there any more?


message 12: by Marc (new)

Marc (monkeelino) | 3465 comments Mod
That's still my favorite Mitchell, Dianne (I haven't read his most recent, but I think I've read everything else aside from Ghostwritten and his non-fiction book)!


message 13: by Whitney (new)

Whitney | 2503 comments Mod
I've read just about everything by Mitchell except The Thousand Autumns, maybe a group read would be the push I need.


message 14: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
OK, nominations are now closed. The poll will be up shortly.


message 15: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
The poll is up here and will run until the end of June:

https://www.goodreads.com/poll/show/2...


message 16: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments Thanks Hugh, I have an ARC of the forthcoming New York Review edition of the Riley so good timing.


message 17: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
My Phantoms has won the poll.


message 18: by Natalie (new)

Natalie Tyler (doulton) | 0 comments This title will be released on September 13, 2022 according to amazon.com

Is it available from English sources? I would really like to join in the read and discussion. My local library does not have it listed. The NYR says it will be released in September,


message 19: by Whitney (new)

Whitney | 2503 comments Mod
Natalie wrote: "This title will be released on September 13, 2022 according to amazon.com

Is it available from English sources? I would really like to join in the read and discussion. My local library does not ha..."


It looks like the ebook and audiobook aren't available until September, but the hardcover and paperback are, and it's available used at several sources. Looks like you have to order a new paperback directly from Blackwell's, https://blackwells.co.uk/bookshop/pro...


message 20: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments Natalie wrote: "This title will be released on September 13, 2022 according to amazon.com

Is it available from English sources? I would really like to join in the read and discussion. My local library does not ha..."


It's available on blackwells.co.uk, which factor the cost of shipping into the price you see. The UK version is out in paperback already, so you should be able to get hold of one.


message 21: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
It was eligible for nomination because the UK first edition was in May 2021. The paperback is now out in the UK too. I am not an expert in the best sources of UK editions in the USA but all of our discussions remain open beyond the one month discussion period, so if the NYRB edition is the only one you can get you can still participate in the discussion when you have had time to read it.


message 22: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Thanks Whitney and Emily - I spent too long writing my reply.


message 23: by Whitney (new)

Whitney | 2503 comments Mod
Three replies at the same time is pretty impressive!


message 24: by Marc (new)

Marc (monkeelino) | 3465 comments Mod
Book Depository usually has the best prices and availability for volumes out in the UK, but not out yet in the U.S. Shipping is included. I believe they are Amazon-affiliated or owned if that's of concern.
https://www.bookdepository.com/search...


message 25: by Natalie (new)

Natalie Tyler (doulton) | 0 comments Whitney wrote: "Natalie wrote: "This title will be released on September 13, 2022 according to amazon.com

Is it available from English sources? I would really like to join in the read and discussion. My local lib..."


I looked at the Blackwell's site and they are very affordable.


message 26: by Jenny (new)

Jenny  Elizabeth  | 1 comments Cool 😎


message 27: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments I've now lost my copy in my house somewhere. Will it resurface before I go on holiday? With all of us and our towering TBRs, I can't be the only one this happens to...


message 28: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "I've now lost my copy in my house somewhere. Will it resurface before I go on holiday? With all of us and our towering TBRs, I can't be the only one this happens to..."

I keep the to-read piles (ususlly 20 to 60 books) separate, so I know where my copy is. Finding books I want to reread can be more of a challenge!


message 29: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments I think the NYRB edition is still available to request via Edelweiss, if that helps anyone.


message 30: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments Alwynne wrote: "I think the NYRB edition is still available to request via Edelweiss, if that helps anyone."

Thanks that's very helpful. I've requested it as a backup.


message 31: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments Great, and mislaying books, particularly the ones I really need to find happens to me all the time. I even have the odd, accidental duplicate as a result!


message 32: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments Are people reading this in the end? I can't find a discussion thread. Or is everyone too busy with holidays and Booker readings? :-)


message 33: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments Hugh's set up a space for it, and I've just started it, and looking forward to the discussion.


message 34: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
I have a copy, and will try and fit it in between the Booker books in the next few days.


message 35: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments Great! I've read about half.


message 36: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments I think there may be others, seen at least one person on my feed who's just started this too.


message 37: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "Are people reading this in the end? I can't find a discussion thread. Or is everyone too busy with holidays and Booker readings? :-)"

Are you happy to create the main discussion thread(s) or shall I do it?


message 38: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments Hugh wrote: "Emily wrote: "Are people reading this in the end? I can't find a discussion thread. Or is everyone too busy with holidays and Booker readings? :-)"

Are you happy to create the main discussion thre..."


I haven't created discussion threads before, but don't mind. What is involved? Pasting a description of the book/author?


message 39: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "Hugh wrote: "Emily wrote: "Are people reading this in the end? I can't find a discussion thread. Or is everyone too busy with holidays and Booker readings? :-)"

Are you happy to create the main di..."

We leave it pretty much up to the discussion leader to decide what discussions to create, but most of our discussions have one for general discussions and one for more detailed discussion with spoilers. You should be able to create your own discussions in this folder using "new topic" - if you need any more help let me know.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/group...


message 40: by Vesna (new)

Vesna (ves_13) | 235 comments Mod
Emily wrote: "I haven't created discussion threads before, but don't mind. What is involved? Pasting a description of the book/author?"

If you quickly scan through a sample of previous reads, it will give you an idea about the nature of the two discussion threads.


message 41: by Emmeline (new)

Emmeline | 200 comments Thanks Vesna and Hugh. General thread is up, I'll open the spoilers one tomorrow.


message 42: by Hugh (new)

Hugh (bodachliath) | 3106 comments Mod
Thanks Emily


message 43: by Alwynne (new)

Alwynne | 257 comments Thanks Hugh, Vesna and Emily, I've moved my comment to the discussion thread.


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