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message 1: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Oct 09, 2009 02:15AM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Apparently, some people think they should be bolding their quotes. gah!

974 of the suckers left!

Presumably some are legitimate (with only a word or two bolded), but the majority just need the tags stripped out. And in at least some if the ones I did so far, then need to be combined with the un-bolded version.


message 2: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) | 2400 comments Rivka, When I go to these, some don't have any tags, and sorry I'm missing something: I don't see any formatting requests for the quotes to show as bold. How do we "un-bold" them? Thanks.


message 3: by Susanna (new)

Susanna (jb_slasher) | 50 comments Umm, actually, when you go to the quote page, the quotes are fine, so to speak. But maybe searching by a straight-up HTML tag messes up the page and not the quotes.

That page shows as:
results for "(this is where the bold tag is)" (showing 1-20 of 973) (0.04 seconds)... (closed tag) etc, right to the end of the page. There is no closing tag so the HTML bolds the whole page from the tag onwards. Maybe?


message 4: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments Phew - I thought it was just me Cait but I got side tracked by work before I could post :)


message 5: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Weird. Searching with the italics tags brought up all 30,000+ quotes. And there are definitely a bunch of bolded quotes -- I fixed some!


message 6: by rivka, Former Moderator (last edited Oct 09, 2009 10:18AM) (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
*laugh* I figured it out. It's bringing up all the quotes with authors with the initial "B." -- E.B. White, etc.


message 7: by Susanna (new)

Susanna (jb_slasher) | 50 comments Actually, if I search by <i>, I get the same effect:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...
results for "(italics tag)" (showing 1-20 of 37,300) (0.02 seconds)... (closed tag) right to the end of the page.

But I noticed that if you search by using & lt ; and & gt ; (added spaces so they doesn't disappear), you can find the quotes that use bold and italics.

Bold:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...
Italics:
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/searc...


message 8: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Oh, very nice! Thanks, Susanna.


message 9: by Susanna (new)

Susanna (jb_slasher) | 50 comments My pleasure! For once, the little knowledge about HTML that I have is useful :)


message 10: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Fortunately, it looks like most of the bolding/italics is legit. Unfortunately, that makes finding the ones that need correcting much harder. ;)


message 11: by Sarah (new)

Sarah | 0 comments rivka wrote: "Fortunately, it looks like most of the bolding/italics is legit. Unfortunately, that makes finding the ones that need correcting much harder. ;)"

I'm afraid I don't understand. What is the problem with bolded quotes?




message 12: by Paula (new)

Paula (paulaan) | 7014 comments Hi K M

Most of the librarians here are not real life librarians ( but there are a few so I ll leave it to them to respond regarding real life libraries.)

Your book is already part of the GR database

http://www.goodreads.com/author/show/...

The link will take you to your author profile - follow the info at the bottom to the page to claim this profile as yours and add info if you so desire



message 13: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Sarah wrote: "What is the problem with bolded quotes?"

Quotes with a word or two bolded for emphasis are fine. But no quote should be entirely in bold (or italics).



K.M., this group is the wrong place for questions like that. Please read the group description for more details.

Welcome to Goodreads, and please do join the Author Program. That will give you many tools to help promote your books, like book giveaways, Q&A groups, and much more.


message 14: by Ralph Gallagher (new)

Ralph Gallagher | 200 comments While going through the bold quotes, I came across This one and I'm not sure what to do with it. Whoever added it, added it three times (I deleted the other two times they had the same person "like" it.) But the quote is in all caps with random bold and italics. The two that I deleted had the entire quote bold and italic.

What should be done with this quote?


message 15: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
I guess that depends what the original being cited looks like.


message 16: by [deleted user] (last edited Jan 09, 2010 01:25PM) (new)

I was looking through the top quotes page the other day and I found that the Twilight Eclipse quote in the top twenty was changed to:
“If Edward wasn’t a fictional character… he is like one of those guys who would probably be an axe murderer or something.”
Which in retrospect, is just another Twilight prank, so I corrected it. But I go back today and this shows up as the quote:
“I asked Wikipedia what the Twilight saga was about and it shot itself.”
Knowing the way that some people feel about the books and quotes, I think that the librarian(s) that did this are going to continue altering things, especially considering this is the second time in a short period. And I just find the pranks inappropriate for the younger people on the site.

I'm going to correct it again, but if a super librarian or someone could look into the vandalism that would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

~I'd also like to add that every single Twilight quote has been deleted except for the largest one (which was altered) and new ones created recently. There must have been hundreds of quotes, who would take the time?


message 17: by Otis (new)

Otis Chandler | 315 comments Someone really deleted all twilight quotes? That is not cool. Only super-librarians may delete a quote with over 10 people who added it, so perhaps they were just all combined into that one top one? If you know what day this happened maybe I can figure out who did it.

It appears we need better controls to prevent this from happening again. I will look into that.


message 18: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Otis wrote: "so perhaps they were just all combined into that one top one?"

Very likely. (And possibly even accidentally.)


Otis wrote: "It appears we need better controls to prevent this from happening again."

Maybe some kind of log, like we have for book/author edits?




message 19: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) | 2400 comments Yes, I think there would be benefit to having a log available for all changes made.

Are we sure about this? I can't believe a super-librarian deleted all those questions, and I assume most of those questions had many more than 10 answers.


message 20: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Quotes, not trivia.


message 21: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) | 2400 comments rivka wrote: "Quotes, not trivia."

Oh, Same thing. Should be a log. Can't believe a super (or anyone) deleted them.



message 22: by Otis (new)

Otis Chandler | 315 comments I'm adding combining quotes to the librarian log. And a confirm message.

I could consider making it so only super-librarians can combine two really large quotes or something like that. thoughts?


message 23: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Hmm. Maybe if 100 or more people have added it?


message 24: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Vegan (lisavegan) | 2400 comments Otis, I love the log and confirm message. I think Rivka is right about the 100 +. If the number is too low, there will be too much work for super-librarians, I suspect.


message 25: by [deleted user] (new)

Otis wrote: "If you know what day this happened maybe I can figure out who did it."

Here's what I know: I saw the first alteration (the prank to the top quote) about a day before my initial post (Jan 7). Then, I also noticed some quotes missing from the front page, but I didn't think much of it at first.

So, they might have been deleted with the initial prank on the 7th. However, I didn't officially check the other quotes until a day or two later to discover them all gone (with the exception of the altered one and recent ones).

I don't think they were combined, because the amount of people that had the top quote added in the first place (5,000) were still there, no more or less, all through the following days. Unlike, today in which the number of people added are 14,000, which I find odd, but it might just be a lag.

And if it was an accident I find it coincidental that the only top quote left, was vandalized twice during the same time period (as stated in my post above). If you don't think it was a member of the site, then maybe there's a possibility it was hacked?


message 26: by Adrianna (new)

Adrianna (adriannas) | 5 comments Slightly off-topic, but I have never heard the term "super-librarian." What is that? If there is another thread about it, just point me in the right direction. Thanks!


message 27: by Cait (new)

Cait (tigercait) | 4988 comments Adrianna wrote: "Slightly off-topic, but I have never heard the term "super-librarian." What is that? If there is another thread about it, just point me in the right direction. Thanks!"

Adrianna, super-librarians are librarians who are also able to delete records which are associated with too many users to be deleted regularly (book editions shelved by more than five people or quotes added by more than ten people). The "please delete this book" thread is for deletion of books which need super-librarian permissions, for example.


message 28: by Adrianna (new)

Adrianna (adriannas) | 5 comments Thanks for explaining, Cait. I'm still wet behind the ears as librarians go. I have much to learn! :)


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