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message 2551: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11287 comments Mod
NancyJ, I like that one better than the tropics specific prompt.


message 2552: by T. (new)

T. Hampton | 104 comments NancyJ, I like it too. You might open it up a bit more by not limiting it to Earth, though. That gives fantasy readers (like myself!) a bit more flexibility.


message 2553: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I like the idea of a hot place especially Earth specific


message 2554: by Sue (new)

Sue | 100 comments NancyJ - as someone who has spent the summer in a scorching hot place, this currently doesn't appeal to me.


message 2555: by Dubhease (new)

Dubhease | 1242 comments Either is fine with me. But I seconded that W character prompt.

Anyone else know any W characters?


message 2556: by Joy D (new)

Joy D | 728 comments Cora wrote: "I posted it for you.
(Nevermind, you were able to post it yourself).
"


Thanks, Cora. I got back just in time for the suggestions.


message 2557: by Joy D (last edited Sep 05, 2022 05:38PM) (new)

Joy D | 728 comments NancyJ wrote: "I could use some feedback for a possible prompt today.

I was planning to submit a Tropics prompt next week, but I had a new idea.

Read a book about a hot place on the planet earth. This could b..."


I like it. Could also refer to volcanoes, or hot springs, or places like Yellowstone that have heated geysers.

If you want to open it to SciFi, it could be any "hot planet" like Mercury or Venus (near the sun) or a fictional planet with hot climate.


message 2558: by Juliet (new)

Juliet Brown | 264 comments I like just 'the tropics' with the connection to 23 better than
'a hot place'. The second feels like it's mashing together a lot of ideas


message 2559: by RachelG. (last edited Sep 05, 2022 05:44PM) (new)

RachelG. I also am more drawn to a geographic tropic prompt rather than a hot place on Earth. For some reason a hot place doesn't speak to me as much with the Earth attached to it. I would perhaps go for Read a book about a hot place or set in a hot place.


message 2560: by Mahi (last edited Sep 05, 2022 05:51PM) (new)

Mahi | 95 comments I think I like Tropics prompt better - this seems very broad (which is fine, but then it's less connected to the 23 degrees which I thought was neat).


message 2561: by Nadine in NY (last edited Sep 05, 2022 05:54PM) (new)

Nadine in NY Jones | 2287 comments NancyJ wrote: "I could use some feedback for a possible prompt today.

I was planning to submit a Tropics prompt next week, but I had a new idea.

Read a book about a hot place on the planet earth. This could b..."



Personally, I like "tropics" better. "A hot place" is too broad for me. And I really liked how "tropics" is connected to 23.

I would not downvote it ,but I probably would not upvote it either.


message 2562: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 05, 2022 06:35PM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3760 comments Thank you everyone for all the feedback. I incorporated the feedback and made the final prompt more concise and cohesive. It also allows for fantasy and non-earth locations! 😎


message 2563: by Pearl (last edited Sep 05, 2022 08:20PM) (new)

Pearl | 531 comments NancyJ wrote: "Tropical setting Listopia

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I created a listopia for books set in Tropical regions around the world. Please..."


Nancy, this might be a stupid question, but how do you find out where a book is set? On the old Goodreads format there was a section with characters, settings and awards. I don't see it on the new page.

I have a list of fantasy books from https://bookriot.com/asia-inspired-fa...

There are two in India, but I can't tell where in India. Since India is partly tropical, can I include Indian books that don't list a specific region? Kaikeyi is compared to Circe.

Black Water Sister and The Ghost Bride are set in Malaysia which is tropical. Someone else recommended Malaysian fantasies this week.


message 2564: by Mahi (last edited Sep 05, 2022 08:55PM) (new)

Mahi | 95 comments Pearl wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Tropical setting Listopia

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I created a listopia for books set in Tropical regions around th..."


For the India books:

Kaikeyi, if you wanted to consider it to be set on Earth and not completely mythological, would be set in what is present-day Ayodhya, Uttar Pradesh which is located at 26.79 N, 82.19 E. So it would be north of the tropics line, but it would be up to you how strictly you wanted to take the challenge. (Note: there's also another kingdom involved but it's farther north and more work to locate exactly so doesn't really help)

The Jasmine Throne is completely fantasy, so you wouldn't be able to assign an Indian region to it.


message 2565: by Pearl (last edited Sep 05, 2022 11:04PM) (new)

Pearl | 531 comments Mahi wrote: "Pearl wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Tropical setting Listopia

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I created a listopia for books set in Tropical reg..."


Thank you for your help. Was the other kingdom called Kekaya? I found it online linked to the Ramayana and it was even farther north. I had no idea where else the story was set. You're right that I'd rather read about a real place for this prompt. I like the geographic prompts for arm chair travel, and I learn new things while researching books. I like that when you said 26.79 N, I could picture it compared to the Tropic of Cancer and the '23 connection.

I had some realistic books in mind for the India subcontinent prompt if it gets in. I want to read more about Bombay, and it would work for Tropics too.


message 2566: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2995 comments Pearl wrote: "Nancy, this might be a stupid question, but how do you find out where a book is set? On the old Goodreads format there was a section with characters, settings and awards. I don't see it on the new page...."

It's still there, it's just not for every book, because a GR librarian needs to add it manually. It's just under where it says what format the book is.


message 2567: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2995 comments I just added the setting to Black Water Sister so you can see where it is.


message 2568: by Mahi (new)

Mahi | 95 comments Pearl wrote: "Mahi wrote: "Pearl wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Tropical setting Listopia

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I created a listopia for books set in..."


Yep the other kingdom is Kekeya.


message 2569: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 06, 2022 03:04PM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3760 comments Pearl wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Tropical setting Listopia

https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...

I created a listopia for books set in Tropical regions around th..."


Sorry I didn't see this post yesterday. It looks like you got some excellent answers from Mahi and Ellie. I opted out of the format change, so I still get the old pages. You can also click on genres to see how other people shelved the books. Ghost Bride has 100 tags for Malaysia. I really liked The Night Tiger by the author of Ghost Bride. I added Black Water Sister too. You might like Euphoria. It's loosely based on the life of Margaret Mead, and it's set in Papua New Guinea.

Added - Thanks for adding the Latitude degrees to the Listopia! Well done.


message 2570: by Thomas (new)

Thomas On another note, does everyone till January 1st to start?


message 2571: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments Thomas - this year I started a book at the end of the year, but by the time I finished I had read most of it in this year. I counted it for this year. I could go either way though. If I had needed it for last year and had read most of it before the New Year I’d be ok counting it for the previous year as well.


message 2572: by Jillian (new)

Jillian | 2954 comments Thomas wrote: "On another note, does everyone till January 1st to start?"

I always have a few books going so I count books for the challenge that I finish after January 1st irregardless of when I start them.


message 2573: by Thomas (new)

Thomas I sometimes start early but try to finish the challenge by the corresponding date the following year


message 2574: by NancyJ (last edited Sep 07, 2022 04:42PM) (new)

NancyJ (nancyjjj) | 3760 comments Thomas wrote: "On another note, does everyone till January 1st to start?"

Thomas wrote: "On another note, does everyone till January 1st to start?"

I started early this year. I was planning to count my year from December1 2021 - Nov 30 2022. Someone else does this every year. Emily said you can count it however you want. (I was concerned about a medical situation that might interrupt my year.)

Later on (when I had enough books completed) I dropped all the December books from my plan and I'm only counting the books I read in 2022 proper.

Other than for challenges with prizes, there are no hard and fast rules here. Many people can't finish in time, and I remember one person was still working on the previous year for a long time. She was reading for both the old plan and the new plan depending on where the book fit best. I have no problem with someone getting a head start, especially if their life makes it hard to read 52 books in a year.

Speaking of prizes, do we know who won the right to pick a prompt? (I never check goodreads email, only the direct mail, so if I won I might not know it!)


message 2575: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11287 comments Mod
Yes, the person who won the summer reading challenge has been contacted and picked a prompt. We will announce it with the Poll 12 results!


message 2576: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments Since I have your eyes now Emily… The prompts chosen on Poll 11 have not been added to the list of 2023 prompts yet. Not sure what the schedule is for doing this. Thank you :)


message 2577: by Alicia (new)

Alicia | 1490 comments For being entered into the raffle, do you need to do the team challenge for the Read-A-Thon? Or can you just do the individual challenge?

My reading has been a lot slower this year, and I don't want to feel like I'm holding my team back. I'll likely just be able to get 4 books in


message 2578: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments I believe only the individual challenge counts for the Read-a-Thon but a mod will correct me if I'm wrong.


message 2579: by Pamela, Arciform Mod (new)

Pamela | 2595 comments Mod
Thomas wrote: "On another note, does everyone till January 1st to start?"

I might start a book before, but it has to be under 25% done at New Years to count for the next year


message 2580: by Judy (last edited Sep 07, 2022 07:39PM) (new)

Judy | 287 comments Alicia wrote: "For being entered into the raffle, do you need to do the team challenge for the Read-A-Thon? Or can you just do the individual challenge?

My reading has been a lot slower this year, and I don't wa..."


I read the same thing Nancy did.

I haven't done a readathon yet. I'll start with this individual challenge and see how I like it. If I can't finish, it won't affect anyone else.


message 2581: by Jillian (new)

Jillian | 2954 comments If you do want to do the group challenge but are worried about not being able to read a lot, you should join. All the teams, I have been on everyone has been great. It does not matter if you read 1 or 10 books, 100 pages or 1000+, or 0 audio hours or 50. No one judges and it is just for fun.


message 2582: by Bec (new)

Bec | 1342 comments Jillian wrote: "If you do want to do the group challenge but are worried about not being able to read a lot, you should join. All the teams, I have been on everyone has been great. It does not matter if you read 1..."

Yep I agree. I was thinking that 4 books was heaps - I'm likely to only read 2, maybe 3....I have signed up for the individual challenge this time but I've never done an individual one before - only the group ones. 4 books in the timeframe will push me...but the group challenge is great as even the number of pages read counts towards the goals.


message 2583: by Judy (last edited Sep 11, 2022 04:53AM) (new)

Judy | 287 comments Is anyone else interested in books about journalists or written by journalists? Or books about con artists?

https://www.goodreads.com/genres/jour...

3 new books-
Corrections in Ink: A Memoir - Iceskater, drug addict, reporter. Keri Blakinger
Billion Dollar Whale: The Man Who Fooled Wall Street, Hollywood, and the World. Tom Wright.
Rogues: True Stories of Grifters, Killers, Rebels and Crooks. Patrick Radden Keefe
Broken News: Why the Media Rage Machine Divides America and How to Fight Back by Chris Stirewalt
Unmask Alice: LSD, Satanic Panic, and the Imposter Behind the World's Most Notorious Diaries by Rick Emerson


Is there a good Sting type novel, with con artists, grifters, hustlers, scammers, flim-flammers, sharks, crooks, swindlers, cheats, mountebanks, rebels, muscle ?

I like sharks and whales for their double meanings.


message 2584: by Ellie (new)

Ellie (patchworkbunny) | 2995 comments Jillian wrote: "If you do want to do the group challenge but are worried about not being able to read a lot, you should join. All the teams, I have been on everyone has been great. It does not matter if you read 1..."

Yes to this! I'm not even trying to do the individual challenge as 4 books is a bit of a stretch for me and the prompts don't really line up with the books I need to read to finish off my challenges, but I am all ready for the team challenge. I'm hoping because of the individual challenge being a prize one, the team prompts will be flexible ones.


message 2585: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11287 comments Mod
Tracy wrote: "Since I have your eyes now Emily… The prompts chosen on Poll 11 have not been added to the list of 2023 prompts yet. Not sure what the schedule is for doing this. Thank you :)"

The timeline is whenever I remember lol. So thank you for the reminder.

Yes, only the Individual Challenge will count towards the raffle. You don't have to participate in the Team Challenge in order to qualify. I haven't actually written the Team Challenge yet (it's on my to do list for today) so I'll keep this conversation in mind!


message 2586: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11287 comments Mod
Judy wrote: "Is anyone else interested in books about journalists or written by journalists? Or books about con artists?

https://www.goodreads.com/genres/jour...

3 new books-
[book:Corrections in Ink: A Me..."


We have quite a few author and publishing prompts already, and I'm not big on author prompts to begin with, so I'd likely not vote for a journalist author prompt (probably not downvote, but not upvote either). If it were open to character, I may be more likely.


message 2587: by dalex (last edited Sep 08, 2022 08:15AM) (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2641 comments Some numbers to keep in mind as we consider future prompt suggestions. We currently have:

GOODREADS & RECOMMENDATIONS - 1

AWARDS, CHALLENGES, & LISTS - 1

CHARACTER -3

OTHER - 3

COVER - 4

SETTING - 5

TITLE - 5

AUTHOR & PUBLISHING - 5

THEME/GENRE - 6


Edited to changed SETTING from 5 to 3 to reflect the multiweek prompt.


message 2588: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments One tip for read-a-thons is to plan ahead, and not finish a book the night before it starts! Found that one out the hard way. If there are 100 pages (or 1 hour) left in a book on day 1, you can count it for the challenge. I have on occasion started another book so I can finish the first one early in the challenge.

I also plan ahead - pick out 8-10 books I want to read during the challenge. Try to make them shorter books, though there's always one prompt for a long book. Then slot them into the prompts wherever possible.

I have always been able to complete both the team and individual challenges using the same books, FWIW.


message 2589: by Mahi (new)

Mahi | 95 comments dalex wrote: "Some numbers to keep in mind as we consider future prompt suggestions. We currently have:

GOODREADS & RECOMMENDATIONS - 1

AWARDS, CHALLENGES, & LISTS - 1

SETTING - 3

CHARACTER -3

OTHER - 3

C..."


Thanks for the list! I think setting is actually 5 because of the multi-week prompt though.


message 2590: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2641 comments Mahi wrote: "Thanks for the list! I think setting is actually 5 because of the multi-week prompt though."

I copied the info from another thread and there it is just listed as one prompt - "Three books, each of which is set in a different century." It's three books, but one prompt. I'm not entirely sure how that should be counted.

https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...


message 2591: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments I think it’s should count as 3 prompts, only because it takes 3 weeks to complete. It’s part of keeping track of 52 weeks/books.


message 2592: by Emily, Conterminous Mod (new)

Emily Bourque (emilyardoin) | 11287 comments Mod
Yes, agreed. It would count as 3 separate prompts because it will be 3 weeks worth of reading. I counted it as 3 weeks when calculating the 33/52 prompts selected.


message 2593: by dalex (new)

dalex (912dalex) | 2641 comments I edited the count post so that setting is now 5 instead of 3.


message 2594: by Mahi (last edited Sep 08, 2022 08:27AM) (new)

Mahi | 95 comments I wonder how this year's list is distributed in these categories. I might count later.

Actually found the original listing:

2022 Prompts:
Title - 5
Cover - 5
Theme - 6
Setting - 5
Character - 5
Genre - 3
Author & Publishing - 6
Goodreads & Recommendations - 4
Awards, Challenges, & Lists - 3
Other - 7


message 2595: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments Judy wrote: "Is anyone else interested in books about journalists or written by journalists? Or books about con artists?

https://www.goodreads.com/genres/jour...

3 new books-
[book:Corrections in Ink: A Me..."


Earlier in the Voting Season I had been considering something like "A book written by a journalist.", so I'd be interested in this idea for sure!

Not necessarily interested in the "con artists..." idea, unless the right book came along. I'm not against it though.


message 2596: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments Emily wrote: "Tracy wrote: "Since I have your eyes now Emily… The prompts chosen on Poll 11 have not been added to the list of 2023 prompts yet. Not sure what the schedule is for doing this. Thank you :)"

The t..."


Thanks Emily :) I hope you didn't think I was pushing. I guess I usually come to the list a good deal after it's been updated, but as we are now seeming to look at which categories need more prompts, it has become more important for me to know as we get to the next suggestion phase. I should really be starting my own list anyway to help document what I want to read and where it makes sense to place it if it fits more than one prompt.


message 2597: by °~Amy~° (new)

°~Amy~° (amybooksit) It looks to me like we are "weakest" in the areas of 'Goodreads & Recommendations' and 'Awards, Challenges & Lists'...,...my least favorite types of prompts. I hope the next poll isn't all recommendation and list suggestions!


message 2598: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments I have two ideas for the next suggestion round that I'm trying to decide between. They both involve cover design. Any preference?

1) "A book where the cover contains non-horizontal text” (this was discussed a few weeks ago, and there are examples in message 1885 on Page 38 of Wild Discussion.

2) "A book where the author's name is more prominent on the cover than the book title."
Most of the time the author's name would be a larger font, but it could be it is designed with a brighter color, or the book title might be dimmer.
Examples:
Remember The Science of Memory and the Art of Forgetting by Lisa Genova Collected Stories by Gabriel García Márquez I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings (Maya Angelou's Autobiography, #1) by Maya Angelou The Anthropocene Reviewed by John Green Small Great Things by Jodi Picoult Fairy Tale by Stephen King


message 2599: by Nancy (new)

Nancy (fancynancyt) | 1842 comments Here are the suggestions so far that fit into Goodreads & Recommendations or Awards, Challenges & Lists. I didn't include those that were Bottom and can't be suggested again.

A book that’s mentioned in the Rory Gilmore Book Challenge
A book with at least 500.000 (500,000) ratings on Goodreads
A book from the Totally Biased List of Tookie’s Favorite Books (polarizing)
A nominee or winner of an Australian book award
A book from the “100 Years of Popular Books on Goodreads” list
A book from the NPR "Books We Love" lists
A book from one of the Millions Most Anticipated lists
A winner or nominee of the Goodreads Choice Awards
A book off the Totally Biased List of Tookie’s Favorite Books found in Louise Endrich's The Sentence (Polarizing)

I think Tookie's day is done but maybe one of the others could be resuggested.

Or, what about something like "a book that fits a prompt from another challenge?" PopSugar, Read Harder, etc.


message 2600: by Tracy (new)

Tracy | 3271 comments Thanks for gathering all these list/ward prompts together in one place Nancy!

I’ve voted for several of them and would vote for them again, especially NPR, and Millions Most.


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