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Why do you think Jacob tried to imprint on bella? (p.176)

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Michelle Jacob tried to imprint Bella because he loves her it's that simple.


Stefany love is a simply complicated thing


Lindsay I think Jacob did try to imprint on Bella but I think her "abilities" would not allow it.


Bakeshow Her "abilities" have nothing to do with it. He can't choose who he imprints on. Imprinting happens the first time you see someone after you have made the change. Jake did NOT imprint on Bella the night she waited in front of his house for him to come home. He TRIED to imprint on her later, but even Jake knows it doesn't work that way. He didn't imprint because it just wasn't "meant to be."

Even if Bella had chosen Jacob, someday he might have imprinted on someone- remember he doesn't choose who it is, and Bella would have been totally S.O.L cuz he would be entirely devoted to that new person. Edward understood that and that's why he said he'd be waiting in the wings when Jake left Bella, because whether Jake meant to or not, he could inadvertantly imprint on someone else.

Do you really think Quil MEANT to imprint on a 2 year old? NO! That' shows you that you can not choose.


Lindsay I did not intend on upsetting anyone...and, you are right, the werewolves can not chose who they imprint on but, I thought that even though Jacob knew better he still TRIED because he loves her. We know that Bella would not have chosen Jacob over Edward but, I still feel like if it were "meant to be" the other way around that Bella is still not imprint-able. Think about this, if Edward can not read her thoughts, what makes you think Jacob (or any other werewolf) can imprint on her? That is the "ability" I was talking about...please don't read too much into it... :)


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Mack Jacob loves bella and wants her to stay human!!!


Jeni | StoryTimeReviews I agree, I think Jacob has imprinted Bella, but he hasn't said the word to her. I kept waiting for him to tell her that she was his imprint, but I think he knows of the deep love Bella has for Edward and I think he is hoping that she will eventually turn around on her own accord and be with him and he's giving her that chance. I know Jacob is NOT out of the picture because his father yelled to him out the door "It's not too late" as the wedding nears. I don't see the wedding happening. Personally, I can't see Bella with Jacob. Bella seems wiser than her years and Jacob seems too emotionally immature; too impulsive and reactive. However, if you read the prefaces to each book, it gives you a little insight into what is to occur in the book with a hidden message. I have a feeling Bella will end up with Jacob and I, for one, will be forever tortured if she does; but I would understand her choice because being a vampire is a LOT to give up. I would forever mourn for Edward if she chose Jacob. Stephenie, I hope you won't be that cruel to your readers and Edward! "Bite me, Edward!"


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Em (Replying to Lindsay)
I wonder if it isn't impossible to imprint on Bella because the powers that don't work on her have to do with the mind. Alice's and Jasper's don't have to do with the mind so their powers still work on Bella. Does imprinting have to do with the mind?


message 59: by Sella (last edited Jun 10, 2008 07:18PM) (new) - rated it 1 star

Sella Malin For people who say that Jacob tried to imprint on Bella on page 176...I checked, and nothing happens on that page. It's actually page 173 when he tries. And Jeni, have you read the first chapter of Breaking Dawn? I assume you haven't, but I've read it in a special edition of Eclipse; and yes, the wedding does take place. I also think it's highly unlikely that Jacob did imprint on Bella and didn't tell her. When an imprint happens, both sides know it. And what Jacob feels towards Bella is just like what Sam felt towards Leah- it's not an imprint, it's just love.


message 60: by Lindsay (last edited Jun 13, 2008 09:51AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lindsay Hi Em! I think that could definitely be a possibility, great thinking! Isn't it funny how we (crazy fans) seem to over-analyze everything?! *wink* I can't wait to for Breaking Dawn and maybe the answers to all our questions!


message 61: by Em (last edited Jun 27, 2008 06:50AM) (new) - rated it 4 stars

Em That would be nice, (for Breaking Dawn to clear up on this imprint thing.)
I agree with Sella, it's just love and not an imprint. Sella, how did you know that both sides 'feel the imprint'?
Has anyone read The Host? It's by the same author.


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It was Quil, he imprinted on Emily's 2 year old niece named Claire. It is funny!!!


Kierra ya... i thin he was. i thoutght it was funny how 1 of the guys imprinted on a baby! lol!!!!


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WHAT??? i just reread pg. 176, and 173 (as Sella said) but i dont see where he tries to imprint on bella. and besides, how do you try to imprint on someone? it just happens, right???? : /


message 65: by Lori (new) - rated it 5 stars

Lori It is on page 173 of Eclipse. "He gazed into my eyes without speaking, his eyebrows furrowed in concentration."
Imprinting happens the first time you see the person after you have phased. Shephenie says so in her Q&A page on her website. He was trying to force himself to imprint on her, but he had already seen Bella once, twice, etc. since he first phase. Which is why, if I were Bella, I wouldn't trust a life with Jacob. They could get married and have a family. And then, one day, out of the blue, Jacob sees someone else and imprints on her. Argh! How horrible would that be?


message 66: by Em (new) - rated it 4 stars

Em Lori, I couldn't agree with you more. If Bella and Jacob went together things could get pretty ugly when Jacob began to imprint on someone. Just like what happened to Sam and Emily and the other girl whose name I can't remember.


Hilda Bella may have seen what life can be like with Jacob after he kissed her, but I feel like there was no imprinting going on there.

According to Jacob you imprint with the one person who completes you...like a soul-mate. Yes Bella and Jacob were very close...best friends even but Edward is Bella's soul-mate and the one she chooses to be with despite Jacob's attempts to woo her.

You can't force love or chemistry with the wrong person...it just doesn't happen.


Funky *SPOILER**


its just sad how jacob imprints on Bellas baby. Poor renesmee


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Shannon Renesnmeh, will be very lucky, able to be in all 3 worlds. I will have to see Breaking Dawn twice just to make sure I didn't miss anything. I was great,awesome, wow.A lot like the book in many ways.


Gemma Jacob has obviously not imprinted on Bella because otherwise he wouldn't even be able to consider being mean to her, imprinting on someone means becoming to devoted, e.g. Sam leaving Leah because he imprinted on someone else and had to be with her. Bella does of course marry Edward because she is a horny teenager and wants to get her own way.
I think Meyer goes to far having Jake imprint on Renessme, for me that seemed ridiculous but with all the other stuff going on in Breaking Dawn with the Volturi and what-not it's not really a main focus of the story.


Krista Holle He didn't try to imprint on Bella. He just loved her. It's very different.


Tanecia A werewolf can not control when an imprint happens. So he could neither try of make himself imprint with Bella.


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Rica Holly wrote: "When did Jacob ever try to imprint on Bella? I mean in all three books it never said anything about him trying to."

i didnt find anything either and i reread it


Tanecia Haarika wrote: "Holly wrote: "When did Jacob ever try to imprint on Bella? I mean in all three books it never said anything about him trying to."

i didnt find anything either and i reread it"


Lol I think everyone is confused about this post.......


message 75: by Rica (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rica Tt wrote: "Haarika wrote: "Holly wrote: "When did Jacob ever try to imprint on Bella? I mean in all three books it never said anything about him trying to."

i didnt find anything either and i reread it"

Lol..."


yup definately....


Kirby I know that OP's talking about- the time(s?) that he stared at her, trying to force the imprint to happen, even though he knew it didn't work that way. maybe he thought if he looked at her long enough, it'd kick in or something...


message 77: by Rica (last edited Nov 27, 2011 03:20PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rica Kirby wrote: "I know that OP's talking about- the time(s?) that he stared at her, trying to force the imprint to happen, even though he knew it didn't work that way. maybe he thought if he looked at her long en..."

oh well i guess so, but he doesnt look at her like that on page 176 soo.....
(this would be really awkward talking like this in person for me cuz of all the .... i put at the end)


Kirby Haarika wrote: "Kirby wrote: "I know that OP's talking about- the time(s?) that he stared at her, trying to force the imprint to happen, even though he knew it didn't work that way. maybe he thought if he looked ..."

well, it's quite likely you're not looking at the same edition, so it would be a different page number (and I use ellipses (...) waaay too much, but I guess that's how I talk in person- I just kinda trail off a lot...)


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Rica Kirby wrote: "Haarika wrote: "Kirby wrote: "I know that OP's talking about- the time(s?) that he stared at her, trying to force the imprint to happen, even though he knew it didn't work that way. maybe he thoug..."

oh i guess your right, i have a hardcover version sooooo....
(i totally agree, i soooo trail off, my texts end with ...... everytime soo.....)


Kirby Haarika wrote: "Kirby wrote: "Haarika wrote: "Kirby wrote: "I know that OP's talking about- the time(s?) that he stared at her, trying to force the imprint to happen, even though he knew it didn't work that way. ..."

yup...
:)


message 81: by Rica (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rica Kirby wrote: "Haarika wrote: "Kirby wrote: "Haarika wrote: "Kirby wrote: "I know that OP's talking about- the time(s?) that he stared at her, trying to force the imprint to happen, even though he knew it didn't ..."

;) thanks....


message 82: by Mochaspresso (last edited Nov 27, 2011 03:56PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mochaspresso It doesn't specifically say it but it is inferred that Jacob kept trying to imprint on Bella because he was in love with her. It's in Eclipse, Ch 8. The story is told from Bella's POV and she can be annoying clueless and dense at times in the Twilight books and therefore doesn't realize what he's trying to do. He stares at her intently and tries to force it to happen but it doesn't.


message 83: by Emma (new) - rated it 4 stars

Emma They can't control who they imprint on. They say, it's like it's not gravity keeping you on the Earth; just that person. You would know when and if that happened. It's a very strong force, that would be hard to create without it really happening.


Kirby I remember how he also desperately tried to find some other girl to imprint on...that was a sad part...


Daisy He didn't even try to imprint on Bella, it was pretty clear that he was just in love with her. It happens.


Hydrangea ***SPOILER*** From Eclipse, my feeling is Edward would have been waiting in the wings for an eternity for Jacob to imprint because Jacob never would have imprinted at all until Renesmee was born. So without Bella and Edward getting back together, Bella ultimately could have stayed and had a life with Jacob, without the interference of his ever imprinting. So the author has cleverly constructed the series, so that Bella is meant to be with Edward and Jacob is meant to be with their daughter, Renesmee. Had Bella not kept the baby, my understanding is that Jacob would not ever imprint in his lifetime. Jacob was in the process of imprinting on Bella's pregnant stomach and that hold was broken once the baby was born and removed from Bella. I just find it interesting to consider it from this other angle.


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Brooke I think Jacob is jealous of Edward.


Ruthanne Mack wrote: "Jacob loves bella and wants her to stay human!!!"

tru dat!


Erica Jacob never TRIED to imprint on Bella. Imprinting isn't something you TRY to do only something you either wish would happen or don't wish. It's not something you can control and he knew that it's something that just is. It just happens. He knew he would never imprint on Bella cause if he did it would've happened already it happens when your eyes first meet with theirs. I think he either secretly wanted to imprint on someone just to break the connection with Bella, or he never wanted to imprint in hopes that Bella would eventually come to him.


Nya Tomlinson-Horan-Malik-Payne-Styles no, not really. jacob said that during bella's pregnancy, he was drawn to her. at first, he thought it was because of bella, but after she had her baby, he realized he was only attracted to her because of the baby. that lead to his imprinting. but bella, as we all know, is nowhere near to happy with jacob's naturally instinct of imprinting.


Erica yeah, you're right, but that's breaking dawn...this group was talking about eclipse and I didn't want to be the spoiler for anyone who hasn't read the last book... :-)


message 92: by Danielle The Book Huntress (last edited Jan 01, 2012 09:54PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

 Danielle The Book Huntress My take was that Jake was forcing the relationship with Bella because he wanted a choice in the matter. He hadn't had a lot of choices in his life with the pack, so he was thinking he could at least make this choice. He chose Bella with his human half, and deep down, I think he knew that she wasn't his soulmate, but he could be happy with her.

I don't think Jacob chose to imprint on Reneesme, and I don't think it's gross. He imprinted on the promise of Reneesme as a grown woman because she is his soulmate. I like how it was shown in the movie because you knew that Jacob was seeing how much she was going to mean to him in his life, and the lightbulb went off that Bella wasn't his true soulmate.


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Desi Imbiri I don't know what to say....
All I know from the book are edward loves bella as much as jacob loves reneesme...


ImScared3222 Um...just a lucky guess, but I'd say he's in love with her. Any one else agree with that statement? Anyone disagree? No? No one? Okay then


Shishikisses chaitezvi some of the imprinting thing is kind of cute like paul and jacobs sister but some of it is lil bit scary like i dont see why he had to imprint on bella's daughter, but i still love jacob he is such a loyal friend :)


Melissa Sarmiento very strange i never got the impression that he actively tried. i know he wishes he could imprint on bella since he was in love with her but not that he did something to imprint. i'll re-read ;)


Hannah I think he had a crush on Bella but no he did not imprint on her because if he did then when *Spoilers* Bella married Edward Jacob would have been devestated. I think Jacob wanted Bella to like him back before he would try to "imprint" on her. Also to be honest I don't think he even liked her that much...sure he had a crush on her but nothing more.


Amanda Jacob never tried to imprint on Bella?! Plus even if he wanted to he would know that it would be impossible. The wolves have no control over it and it would have to happen the instant they became a wolf and saw the person. Such as when he sees Renesmee for the first time.
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