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Maven or Cal???

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message 901: by Abbie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Abbie She choses CAL!!!


message 902: by sn (new) - rated it 2 stars

sn Maven all the way! He is interesting and complex character and I love him with all my heart. And Victoria said in interview that we're gonna get a deeper look into Maven's past, so I think something interesting is going to happen in King's Cage.


message 903: by sn (new) - rated it 2 stars

sn No, Maven is Victoria's second favorite character after Mare. She said that several times.


Queen  Victoria I SHIP MAVEN X MARE ALL THE WAY!
I never did ship cal x mare because even though cal is a cool character he just seems like the typical one to be a candidate.

plus I adore villain x hero ships :)


Queen  Victoria Bianca wrote: "Maven all the way like after his betrayal I was like, 'I fell in love with you and you betrayed me and the worst part is I still love you'.I will always love Maven now that his evil I love him even..."

Same! I want him and mare to be together! I want him to have a redemption arc. Also I just adore villain x hero ships.


message 906: by Carm (new) - rated it 4 stars

Carm I am totally team Cal, I never liked Maven from the beginning. I thought him and mare would be good friends, but never more than that. So when Maven's betrayal happened, I didn't really care that much because I was always team Cal!


message 907: by Paige (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paige Cal!!!!!!!!!!!! Totally. I love Cal and after what Maven betrayed Mare I was like Cal all the way. Plus I think Cal loves her, even if he won't admit it.


message 908: by Constanza (new) - added it

Constanza Caaaaaaaaaaaaaal


message 909: by Abbie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Abbie CAAAAAAAAAALLLLL <3


message 910: by [deleted user] (new)

CAL. Maven is the honest worst. I mean, he might not have been the worst to HER, but he was the worst generally. Bad people in love are still bad people. They're just also in love.


message 911: by Abbie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Abbie soo true


message 912: by [deleted user] (new)

#CallMavenOut2k17


message 913: by Abbie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Abbie true


Chantal At first I was totally #TeamMaven, but after I read the 2nd book I´m definitely #TeamCal.


message 915: by Poppy (last edited Jan 31, 2017 11:22AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Poppy Maven, Maven , Maven. I dont know how, but he makes me love him in a really strong way. He was so perfect and inperfect at the same time... I LOVE HIM, i dont care how bad he is, HE IS THE LOVE OF MY LIFE.


message 916: by Paula (new) - rated it 5 stars

Paula Batalla I already finished the book. I just want to say that obviously of my point of view Mare should choose CAL!!!!! If I were Mare I choose him!
At the beginning I thought that he was a good guy that all girls want to fall in love with and I thought that he was like everybody. I kept reading and I discovered he was a real idiot, despite it is pure fire. Attracts and seduces you until you can’t let it escape.


The more I read the more attraction I felt towards Cal and the more I began to hate Maven. At the end I cannot see Maven... I don’t want to made spoilers. If you had finished the book, you understand me


message 917: by Abbie (new) - rated it 5 stars

Abbie yah i get that


Frenchdinosaurs Being honest here, I like Maven, even after his betrayal. How could I see her with Cal? He seems fun, but I know he's all business when you get down to it, and he's not the kind of person to easily love, and I feel in the second book (which I haven't gotten to yet on my list, I swear, it's the size of Mount Everest!) Cal is going to screw up in some way and ruin every single one of his chances. Anyone else? Just me? Yes? Okay. Still, I feel he could make a comeback from his mood and learn to truly care for someone beyond the ties of family and close friends.


Chantal I think, everybody loves Maven, because he´s a ´Bad Boy´.


message 920: by Evelyn (new) - added it

Evelyn Chantal you are exactly right.


Chantal Evelyn wrote: "Chantal you are exactly right."

Great :-D


message 922: by Rachel (new) - rated it 4 stars

Rachel Nortz Jenny wrote: "I HATE THEM BOTH!!!!!!!!!!!!! maven totally tore her heart out and Cal is a heartless, cold soldier with nothing going for him but looks... Mare is totally a single figure..."

PREACH.


makenna Why isn't anybody commenting on the release tomorrow??? Like what the heck people?!?! It's almost here.


message 924: by Brooke (new) - rated it 5 stars

Brooke Welliver Patricia wrote: "I'm so torn as well!
It is only the first book and it happened so much.
There's something inexpiable about Maven... that I love... And Cal. He is truly the fire."


Bianca wrote: "Maven all the way like after his betrayal I was like, 'I fell in love with you and you betrayed me and the worst part is I still love you'.I will always love Maven now that his evil I love him even..."

Patricia wrote: "I'm so torn as well!
It is only the first book and it happened so much.
There's something inexpiable about Maven... that I love... And Cal. He is truly the fire."
I know right



message 925: by dana (new) - rated it 5 stars

dana Alright so at the beginning I was bouncing back and fourth. Team Cal because he met Mare first and tried to help her get a job and stuff but then Maven was being so sweet to her by being there for her when she needed it. And then the dance lessons like OH MY GOODNESS, I died and I shipped it SO hard and I was dying for her to be with Cal but THEN they catch the scarlet guard and he tortures Farley and I was so PISSED I was like 'you know what? No, I'm team Maven all the way' so I was back on Mavens side with him helping her by deleting all her blood files so she wouldn't get caught and they were so adorable but then he freaking BETRAYS her and I was back on Cal's team because he's there for her, even after she betrayed him and practically ruined his life, he still tried to save her in the Arena and when they were about to die he holds her close and hums the song they danced to and I was fangirling SO hard. And then there was the whole 'him being there with her in Glass Sword' where they sort of used each other as a crutch to get over everything and lets not mention the super cute scenes in Kings Cage where they... you know *wiggles eyebrows suggestively*. ANYWAYS, yeah, Team Cal all the way


Victoria Lozada I don't know... :c. In the first book I was always team Maven , but in the second book i finally knew the personality of Cal, and actually, he is very... human. In the second book he isn't looks like a prince, he's just him.


Victoria Lozada Joanne wrote: "Am I too late? I don't care. I SHIP HER AND CAL SO MUCH- yeah, I pity Maven but doing what he did (about halfway through) was a bit too much for me. I just feel like he's too soft IM SORRY" EXACTLY!!!!!!


message 928: by Taylor (new) - rated it 5 stars

Taylor Elley I think Cal and Mare are perfect together! After reading Red Queen I came to believe that Maven and Mare could never become more than friends.


message 929: by Sydney (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sydney I used to not really love either Maven or Cal, but I just read the 3rd book, and now I love both of them so much more.
Cal, for one, now seems more likable to me. I used to be like, "Okay, you're heroic and cute and (almost) everyone loves you, so I like you, but if you die in battle, I won't hide away in my room all say sobbing like I do when some other characters die."
In the 3rd book, he became a real person to me, with thoughts and feelings and the wonderful but sad hope the Maven will go back to the Maven he thought he knew.
As for Maven, I loved him in the first book, and so when he was betrayed everyone, I felt personally hurt. I spent the whole 2nd book waiting for someone to kill him, because then I would be avenged. (You may notice that I take books very seriously and experience very raw emotions while reading them. No judging, please.)
But in the second book, he too was a real person, even if he was one who wasn't even sure which part of him was real. I felt bad for him, and I thought, "Oh, yeah. I despise you. I forgot. Inconveniently, I'm not even sure if I do despise you anymore."
So now I am stuck. I like them both equally, and if one of them dies in the forth book, I will completely lose it, which is bad, because the odds of them both surviving are relatively slim.
Sorry for the long post. :P


message 930: by Mabeuf (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mabeuf Jen wrote: "I haven't finished the book yet. I am just about half trough but I would still like to say what I am thinking right know. I pretty much like both of them. Cal is the typical more badass guy and Mav..."
Just to clarify: you haven't read glass sword yet?


TinaHeyy Sonia wrote: "I also really liked Maven, even at the end. He's like a Warner type character. So Maven all the way. Cal is a no no. Just ughh no. MAVEN MAVEN MAVEN"

OMGGGGG I FEEL YOUUU ....MAVEN AND WARNER ALL THE WAY....!!!!!


message 932: by Mabeuf (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mabeuf TinaHeyy wrote: "Sonia wrote: "I also really liked Maven, even at the end. He's like a Warner type character. So Maven all the way. Cal is a no no. Just ughh no. MAVEN MAVEN MAVEN"

OMGGGGG I FEEL YOUUU ....MAVEN A..."

Bit creepy, but yeah. Totally could fall in love with him!!!


TinaHeyy I am honestly fond of both of them but mostly Cal beacause he is that strong and soldier type of guy that just makes me wanna fall for him...And I like Maven because come on, his the psycho one...Who doesn't love the psychos..? SOOOOO I SO BADLY WANT MARE TO END UP WITH CAL!


gemtreize team maven since ever and forever


message 935: by Jazmin (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jazmin Maria After the ending of King's Gage, team Maven all the way. Still waiting for a Shatter Me moment.


message 936: by lulu (new) - rated it 4 stars

lulu Of course Cal, since the time they have met with Mare I am shipping Cal and Mare. But at the end of the story Mare could be with Maven and I am really worrying about that. But anything can happen, no matter what my heart and my mind will be with Cal.


message 937: by Mabeuf (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mabeuf Hal wrote: "I've read Red Queen and Glass Sword and cannot wait to buy King's Cage!! In the beginning I was totally team Cal, and then that switched when Mare and Maven got super close while she was pretending..."

You know King's Cage is out, right?


message 938: by Mabeuf (new) - rated it 4 stars

Mabeuf Jazmin wrote: "After the ending of King's Gage, team Maven all the way. Still waiting for a Shatter Me moment."

Don't give ANY clues on the ending of King's Cage!!! PLEASE I haven't finished it yet and now I have a better idea on how it ends


Vanessa Cookie wrote: "It's been over a year since Ignite Me but I still think about him every day. LMAO he IS warming up toward Kenji."

Just wanted to say that warner is from the book shatter me which is a must read


message 940: by KenKen (new) - rated it 5 stars

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Natalia My friend is literally scared for me if Cal and Mare don't get together that I will become well.......messed up. So she ships them in hope that I don't die.


message 942: by Sarah (new) - rated it 3 stars

Sarah Smithe I'm totally team Maven! Just my 2 cents, but Cal practically betrayed her at the end of King's Cage. That already made me kinda dislike him.


message 943: by Sarah (new) - rated it 4 stars

Sarah Cronin I secretly really want her and maven to work out


message 944: by Mina (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mina I am still team Kilorn but if I had to choose either maven or cal I would choose Maven because I still really like him in some weird way


message 945: by Arum (new) - rated it 4 stars

Arum Arianti M A V E N


message 946: by Mina (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mina Well many of the things ( in book 1&2) were his mothers control and he did really love her... in his own way and he did actually try not to hurt her in book 3. He kept her away for as long as possible but I can understand why you don't like him but to me cal is just as bad in just another way and he kind of redeemed himself in book 3 UNTILL THE FLIPPIN END!


Georgie Cal all the way


message 948: by Anum (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anum I was supporting Cal but Maven has a chance to redeem himself so for me its Maven


Georgie this is probably just me but I actually never liked maven... from the moment Mare met Cal in red queen, I was already shipping them


message 950: by Stine (new) - rated it 5 stars

Stine Ebbesen I've always liked Cal better than Maven, and the end of the first book made the decision quite easy. Maven is a puppy compared to Cal, and doesn't know what he want. I also look at Cal as Mare's type of guy, he's kinda like Kilmer (don't know if that's Mare's name in English?) tough.
Can't wait to read the next two books to find out who she actually ends up with, or if she even end up with someone at all.


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