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Maven or Cal???

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message 451: by Ryann (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ryann Losee I am only about a third of the way through the book and I literally LOVE Cal but I'm starting to like Maven so I can't choose!!!!


Victoria MAVEN.MAVEN.MAVEN

But I wouldn't mind some jealous Cal thrown in ;)


message 453: by Emilee (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emilee Withrow Cal I always loved in. I feel that Mare and Cal have a connection since they met at the bar!


message 454: by [deleted user] (new)

Exactly! I think that was the cue for the romance to start


Katrina♡•• Victoria wrote: "MAVEN.MAVEN.MAVEN

But I wouldn't mind some jealous Cal thrown in ;)"


yes!


message 456: by Emilee (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emilee Withrow I can't wait for the second book I have a feeling they will get together. Mare and Cal will never be the same but they will have each other to take down Maven!


message 457: by Ryann (new) - rated it 5 stars

Ryann Losee I FREAKING LOVE MAVEN OMG

btw I'm only halfway through and I heard something major happens involving maven and I am literally crying


Tenmodo Ryann wrote: "I FREAKING LOVE MAVEN OMG

btw I'm only halfway through and I heard something major happens involving maven and I am literally crying"

i knowwww!!! but even though all that happened I still love maven!!


message 459: by [deleted user] (new)

I just hate how in all love stories it seems like the girl gets with the prince charming or the "nice" guy and it just sucks because I really want her to be with Maven since he's such an underdog! It would be a total plot twist compared to all the other series out there. That, or she could end up with Kilorn. I really want her to be with Maven, but based on how things went, she never will be :(


Katrina♡•• Lauren wrote: "I just hate how in all love stories it seems like the girl gets with the prince charming or the "nice" guy and it just sucks because I really want her to be with Maven since he's such an underdog! ..."

I understand how you feel and I completely agree.The series would stand out if she ends up with Marven because most authors have not taken the time to transition an evil character to endgame( to a good person) I don't think all is lost yet though because it has 4 books....Marven<3


Sabrina Lauren wrote: "I just hate how in all love stories it seems like the girl gets with the prince charming or the "nice" guy and it just sucks because I really want her to be with Maven since he's such an underdog! ..."

I completely agree with you. It would be really amazing if she ends up with Maven though..


message 462: by Ashley (new) - added it

Ashley At this point...Cal


message 463: by Megan (new) - rated it 3 stars

Megan I like Maven, I never really liked Cal. Then Maven betrayed us all and now I could care less about either of them. Everyone's like MAVEN! CAL! and I'm over here like NEITHER!


message 464: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Heath I'm on Cal's side. When there was that dancing scene, thats what sold it for me.


message 465: by [deleted user] (new)

That scene was my favourite!


message 466: by cat (new) - rated it 5 stars

cat Am I the only one for Team Kilorn? May be the "brother" for Mare, but still! I believe in this ship! In my eyes: a best friend relationship gone farther.


Katrina♡•• Cat wrote: "Am I the only one for Team Kilorn? May be the "brother" for Mare, but still! I believe in this ship! In my eyes: a best friend relationship gone farther."

I really like Kilorn and I don't have anything against him. If he ends up with Mare then I definitely wouldn't see it coming.


message 468: by Sophia (new)

Sophia I think she will end up with Cal, because quote on quote, can't remember the exact words...his heat engulfs me once more, its that familiar warmth that Cal can bring...later when they kissed...he is not a spark of destruction but a spark of life...chapter in glass sword..tells her brother I'm not leaving without and then earlier, we have that bond me and him against the world that deceived us...yea I'm done, though I have to admit maven is hot too..but yea noo


message 469: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor I love both of them, seriously... I can't choose.


Tenmodo I will be SOOO DISAPPOINTEDLY if she chooses cal.. Probably won't even finish the series!!! TOOO CLICHE... Maveyyy :(


Tenmodo Disappointed*


message 472: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor I KNOW. But I like Cal but Maven is ... Ugh ! I LOVE Maven.


Tenmodo Haha u LIKE cal but u LOVE maven!!! YAAAY!!!


message 474: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor yeah if you read the excerpt on Glass Sword, Mare says that she still had "feelings" for Maven. But tbh i don't really mind who she ends up with :-/


message 475: by Sophia (new)

Sophia I love the book, so I'm hoping there is lots of action and I hope we get to explore some of the characters more such as Elara because I feel like she has a lot more layers that just being evil so cross my fingers


message 476: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor @Sophie I know !! I'm thinking maybe Elara isn't really evil and will help Mare at some point in the book. It's been turned into 4 books now !!!!


message 477: by [deleted user] (new)

Taylor wrote: "I KNOW. But I like Cal but Maven is ... Ugh ! I LOVE Maven."

Mainy wrote: "I will be SOOO DISAPPOINTEDLY if she chooses cal.. Probably won't even finish the series!!! TOOO CLICHE... Maveyyy :("

SAME. I'm going to spend my dying wish hoping she ends up with Maven. Cal is just...too cliche. It seems like every girl goes for the hot prince. PLUS I don't think they have chemistry. She talks in several chapters about how they have different views on the rebel movement. I don't know the exact quotes, but it just seems like every girl in every freaking love triangle goes for the "hotter" one.
FOR ONCE, I WANT THE UNDERDOG TO WIN! YEAHHHHHHHH!
But he probs won't because it's too cliche. I will be very disappointed if Mare doesn't end up with either Maven or Kilorn. Call me crazy, but I actually don't really like Cal that much.


message 478: by Haya (new) - rated it 5 stars

Haya Lauren, nope you're not crazy! I 100% agree!


Elizabeth I honestly can't decide... I like Cal sometimes. But I also like Maven sometimes. I think that she could end up with either honestly and although I wouldn't mind either I think that Maven would need to redeem himself massively before ANYTHING is going to happen between them...

I feel like Cal is cliche but Maven is a huge jerk sometimes. And Kilorn is quite annoying occasionally. Honestly all three of them annoy me and I don't know what to think or ship. I'm hoping to second book will clear things up a bit.


message 480: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor @Elizabeth Right ?!!! Cal is like those "too-good-to-be-true" fictional characters. Honestly Maven is the only one I find remotely interesting.


Elizabeth Yeah, well I found Maven interesting but what he did was... that was pretty unforgivable in my opinion. He was pretty nasty, I think he will have to do a lot of good things in the next book to become my ultimate Mare ship.


message 482: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Yeah. I think it was horrible to do that to your betrothed and brother. I don't know how he'll redeem himself to Mare, but he'll have to think of something pretty good. Especially when he's got a whole group of well trained fighters on his back.


Elizabeth Yeah, true. He was pretty nasty, but IF he does redeem himself I wouldn't mind seeing some more Maven and Mare in the future :)


message 484: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Definetely !


I'm not sure if Kilorn is a love interst or not. I swear if Victoria throws him in as ANOTHER boy Mare will have to choose from, I'm done.


Elizabeth Haha same! I just don't see it happening but you never know, he seemed okay and she loves him like a brother but things could change. ai still think that he would have to redeem himself almost as much as Maven. He caused so much trouble! But. I mean just think about Heir of Fire. There were four choices and maybe still are. But I'm so crossing my fingers for Rowan.


message 486: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Oh I love Rowan so much. Chaol is not a choice seeing he's with... Someone else. And Aedion is her cousin !! That only leaves 2 choices.
But Kilorn just HAD to join The Rising *facepalm*


Elizabeth Haha, yes! But I don't know why I'm seeing a certain prince with a certain witch in the future... or at least a good friendship. I'm hoping for that because I'm Rowaelin all the way.

And yes!!! I sort do expected it but when he did that I was just... UGh Kilorn is so stupid and moody. Just because a girl is protecting you doesn't mean you need to prove that your a man by practically killing yourself!!


message 488: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor I KNOW !!! If you read the Selection you would know what I meant by Aspen ... (I mean seriously, she made you a meal and you left her just because you didn't feel manly ??)


Elizabeth I have indeed read The Selection. I really hated Aspen, I mean, come on! I feel like Aspen needs to hear the quote 'If you love her... LET HER GO!' he just lets her use him.... UGH. I think Kilorn and Aspen would be good friends. I friendship them.


message 490: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Omg yes!! They both have no personality and are complete jerks. They'd be perfect friends !
Remember America asked aspen if she'd make a good queen and he said "to be honest Mer, no". Wtf ?? Who says that !?


message 491: by [deleted user] (new)

AHHHHHHH DON'T SPOIL ANYTHING FOR MEEE! I'm on Crown of Midnight and haven't met Rowan yet!


Elizabeth Haha, yes that scene was really funny and annoying. I mean that's like asking your best friend 'Do you think I could pursue my dreams?' and them just being like 'Honestly... no. I think you don't have enough responsibility for that.' I really want an Aspen and Kilorn friendship now! I like that idea. And America and Mare! And I think that Cal and Maxon would also work... haha that's fantastic. And then Maven can just have no friends until he redeems himself.


Elizabeth Don't worry, we won't spoil our ship :) Just know that he's fantastic and read on!


message 494: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Shiiiit sorry @Lauren !! Just, uh pretend you didn't see ANYTHING.


message 495: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Elizabeth wrote: "Haha, yes that scene was really funny and annoying. I mean that's like asking your best friend 'Do you think I could pursue my dreams?' and them just being like 'Honestly... no. I think you don't h..."

This is perfect. I am actually going to make a fanfic about this (kidding). But someone really should.


Elizabeth Yes, someone should. And no one would read it because we all hate Aspen and Kilorn :) Or maybe we would read it just to see what happens


message 497: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Haha Kilorn and aspen are the most disliked male characters ever. Yay!!


Elizabeth Ohh, Ohh!! What if we added Adam from the Shatter Me series!! It would be all of the worst characters!


message 499: by Taylor (new) - rated it 4 stars

Taylor Haven't read that book yet but I'll happily throw him in as well !


Elizabeth Okay, good. He's actually okay in the first book but... it all goes downhill from there. I'm so disappointed that he got a novella. But I haven't read the novellas yet so ehh, it's fine. But another reason I don't like him is because I adore Warner... he is epic.


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