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I thought about it, but it looks too scary. I like my scary stuff weird and unrealistic-and no nightmares!
Bernard wrote: "I have taken some bravery enhancement pills, so I will try."
You are very brave Bernard. Please let us know if it works!!
You are very brave Bernard. Please let us know if it works!!
I want to read the book but will have to wait! Scary doesn’t bother me. I can’t keep up with the pace in this group! I’m still reading Solaris. I keep getting distracted by other books.
Pam, you can comment any time! I've commented on monthly reads many months later sometimes. I pick and choose which books I'm going to read because I can't read them all either.
Rosemarie said:
I thought about it, but it looks too scary. I like my scary stuff weird and unrealistic-and no nightmares!
I don’t think I’d describe Aickman’s stories as “scary”. His own description of them as “strange” is pretty apt. Aickman’s tales are often unsettling in an ambiguous kind of way. The reader may realize that something odd has occurred without being able to quite pinpoint the underlying nature or purpose of the events in question. Neil Gaiman once said of reading Aickman, “It’s as if you watched a magic trick being done, and at the end of it you’re not even sure what the trick was.”
Canavan wrote: "I don’t think I’d describe Aickman’s stories as “scary..."
Ok I will give you that one Canavan.
Macabre means disturbing and horrifying...extremely shocking is still too much for me, but I am not saying no one else should take my judgment as not to read. If this is your genre than please read. It is rated 4 stars!
Ok I will give you that one Canavan.
Macabre means disturbing and horrifying...extremely shocking is still too much for me, but I am not saying no one else should take my judgment as not to read. If this is your genre than please read. It is rated 4 stars!
Pam wrote: "I want to read the book but will have to wait! Scary doesn’t bother me. I can’t keep up with the pace in this group! I’m still reading Solaris. I keep getting distracted by other books."
I understand. I probably won't get to this until next month.
I understand. I probably won't get to this until next month.
I participated in a discussion of these stories in another group about 8 years ago. Here are the (slightly edited) thoughts I had about “The School Friend”.This is probably pretty typical Aickman at least in some ways. The author provides the reader with enough clues to dope out the broad outlines of what’s going on, but many of the plot details are left ambiguous. (I sometimes liken reading an Aickman story to putting together a jigsaw puzzle, only to discover at the end of the process that some of the pieces are missing.)
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I am definitely joining for this one. For those in the UK his stories have been likened to Inside number 9 and The league of gentleman, so definitely more strange than scary, but we will see. Sorry I don’t know of any US equivalents.
Finished Dark Entries tonight (this was a re-read; I'd first read it around 2015 when they re-issued some of his books on the centenary of his birth). Re-reading caused me to increase my rating to 4 stars, and I'd agree with Georgina that his stories are strange rather than scary, and are definitely not horror. He apparently preferred "strange tales" as the best description of his work.
His endings are strangest of all - and sometimes leave you wondering if you'd missed something in the build-up. But I'm glad to have re-read it, and grateful to Lesle for having included it in this years challenge.
For anyone who is interested, there's an hour-long 2015 documentary of his life and work available on You Tube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-FyI...
Thoughts on “Ringing the Changes”.This is one of Robert Aickman’s more anthologized pieces and was, in fact, televised as “The Bells of Hell” in 1968. In some ways it’s actually a bit more accessible than many of Aickman’s stories — at least as to the surface action. But I find it just as murky as most of his other tales when it comes to trying to get a handle on what is intended on a more metaphorical level. (view spoiler)
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For anyone interested in Aickman, Tartarus Press just published a biography of the writer,
Robert Aickman: An Attempted Biography
by R. B. Russell.
Thoughts on “Choice of Weapons”.I’ll say at the outset that I wasn’t all that fond of this story. We’ve made mention previously about the ambiguous nature of most of Aickman’s fiction. I think everyone has their own personal criterion for how much ambiguity they are willing to tolerate in a story and for me Aickman crosses that boundary here. I felt while reading “Choice” as though I were stumbling around in a dark room and bumping into the furniture.
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Many writers have derived inspiration from Freudian ideas, I suppose it's another iron in the development fire.
I finished this a few days ago and really enjoyed it. I agree that some of the endings are ambiguous, but that adds to the intrigue for me. I’m sat listening to the bell ringing practice in my village and every week since I finished Ringing the Changes it has sent a shiver down my spine.
We read The Beetle by Richard Marsh a little while ago and I can see a lot of inspiration must have come from his grandfathers gothic tales.
Brief comment on “The Waiting Room”.Not much here other than a very traditionally-flavored ghost tale of the type once popular with readers during the Christmas season. In fact, this one originally appeared in 1956 in the December issue of a magazine called The Sketch. Kind of pedestrian for Aickman, but still well crafted.
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Thoughts on “The View”.I don’t profess to understand it completely, but it is an interesting read.
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Yes, I was disappointed by The School Friend too, but fortunately the other stories are better. All I can fathom is that Sally gave birth to some kind of monster. And the ending gave no disclosure at all.
In The View, Carfax achieves happiness with Ariel, but afterwards finds he has aged terribly. Perhaps happiness is not a right, but has to be paid for?But I enjoyed it overall, there is indeed an atmosphere of strangeness
Bernard wrote: "Yes, I was disappointed by The School Friend too, but fortunately the other stories are better. All I can fathom is that Sally gave birth to some kind of monster. And the ending gave no disclosure at all."
It was like lots of pieces of horror stories that didn't actually connect.
I didn't finish Ringing the Changes at work but it seems pretty good.
It was like lots of pieces of horror stories that didn't actually connect.
I didn't finish Ringing the Changes at work but it seems pretty good.
I just finished The Waiting Room. Yeah, definitely reminded me of something by Dickens.
So they're all about sex and death? I guess that makes a kind of sense.
So they're all about sex and death? I guess that makes a kind of sense.
"The first, so far as he could make out, told of a youth who, on being offered by a sage alternative gifts of Wisdom, Wealth, or Virtue, the gifts losing nothing of impressiveness by their Teuttonic initial capitals, selected Wealth. The sage thereupon remarked that the choice proved the youth already had Wisdom as he would now be able to afford Virtue."
There is a saying that money doesn't bring happiness, but this is patently untrue. But research shows that the relationship is a complex one.
They say money can't buy love or health. But it can buy everything else. And it makes even those easier.
Bind Your Hair was weird and fun. Yes, now that Canavan pointed it out I can see that there's a lot of sex in these.
Bind Your Hair was weird and fun. Yes, now that Canavan pointed it out I can see that there's a lot of sex in these.
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The stories:
The School Friend
Ringing the Changes
Choice of Weapons
The Waiting Room
The View
Bind Your Hair
Robert Aickman (1914-1981) was the grandson of Richard Marsh, a leading Victorian novelist of the occult. Though his chief occupation in life was first as a conservationist of England's canals he eventually turned his talents to writing what he called 'strange stories.' Dark Entries (1964) was his first full collection, the debut in a body of work that would inspire Peter Straub to hail Aickman as 'this century's most profound writer of what we call horror stories.' (197 pages)