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Little Dorrit Chapters Chp 12-14
Chapter 13
Patriarchal
“[Arthur] sat before his dying fire, sorrowful to think upon the way by which he had come to that night, yet not strewing poison on the way by which other man had come to it. But he should have missed so much and that his time of life should look so far about him for any staff to bear him company upon his download journey and share it, was a just regret.”
This is a very long chapter. In order for us to digest it I have decided to break it up into six sections. My logic is that by seeing each section by itself we will better understand the text.
Casby’s Connections
In the first section we take a look at Mr. Casby and see how he connects to various threads already established in the novel. We learn in the first paragraph of this chapter that once upon a time Mr. Casby’s daughter Flora was the beloved of Arthur. We also learn that Arthur believes that the case of Mr. Dorrit, Father of the Marshalsea, is hopeless. Thus, Arthur resigns his idea of helping Mr. Dorrit gain his freedom. Arthur takes himself to the home of Mr. Casby and as the door opens we find ourselves in yet another home that reflects its owner. The furniture is formal and grave, but well-kept. The most distinctive part of the house is the “grave clock, ticking.” We read that the fire “ticked in the grate.” Next we read that Arthur’s “loud watch in his pocket ticked audibly.” It appears that time may become an important part of what will occur in this chapter.
When Arthur sees Mr. Casby we learn that he had changed very little since Arthur saw him last. Casby is“so gray, so slow, so quiet, so compassionate so very bumpy in the head, Patriarch was the word for him.” We also learn that Casby was formally the Town-agent to Lord Decimus Tite Barnacle. Here we learn a connection to the Barnacle family. Next we learn that Casby has been in contact with Mr. Flintwinch. The next fact we learn is that Mr. Casby and Arthur’s parents “we’re not on friendly terms.” Casby assures Arthur, however, that the past is gone in the past is done. Casby then tells Arthur that he visits his mother occasionally and admired the her strength of mind as she bears her trials. As readers we wonder what these trials could be. Last, we learn that it was through Casby that Little Dorrit was introduced to Arthur’s mother.
Thoughts
Let us remember that as we entered the house the key symbol was the sound of a clock ticking. Time. I think it is important to remember the concept of time as we read through this chapter. What Dickens has done in the beginning of this chapter is create and explain some of the intricate connections among characters. To what extent does the information of the intertwined connections of characters in the beginning of this paragraph help you understand how the novel might progress in the coming chapters?
What is your opinion of Mr. Pancks? To what extent do you think that his physical appearance helped you to make that opinion?
We learn from Pancks that the connection between Casby and the Barnacles is one of property, and how Casby is a terrible man to those he has power over. Clearly these two men have a past together that is not one of kindness to those less fortunate than themselves. What conflicts might be developed by Dickens in the coming chapters regarding these men and their treatment of the poor?
Section 2
Flora
I will call this section Flora for the obvious reason that Flora, Casby’s daughter, arrives on the scene. We learn that Flora had only been married a few months before her husband died. This part of the chapter is very humourous and a welcome relief to much of what has come before in the novel. We could, in fact, call this section comic relief. Perhaps the best phrase in this section is when Dickens tells us that when Arthur’s eyes “ fell upon the subject of his old passion that it shivered and broke to pieces.” Arthur realizes that Flora, who had seemed enchanting in all she said and thought, was diffuse and silly.” The conversation between Arthur and Flora — or perhaps Flora at Arthur — is meant to make Flora a very unappealing person. Flora, on the other hand, seems to think she is in enchanting. As an outlier, I wonder how much Dickens drew upon his changing feelings towards his wife Catherine when he penned the description of Flora.
Section 3
The Dinner Table
Arthur stays for dinner and the conversation is painful to recall. Pancks talks about Bleeding Heart Yard and calls it “a troublesome property.” Arthur tries to be civil. There is little place for Arthur to hide with Flora on one side and Pancks on the other.
Thoughts
What do you think the main purpose of having Arthur be part of this dinner party was?
Has anything that was discussed at the dinner table either helped fill in the blanks of Arthur’s situation in London or hinted as to what might occur in the coming chapters?
Section 4
Homeward Bound
Arthur makes his escape from the Casby house accompanied by Mr. Pancks. More and more we find Pancks is a man who values money more than anything in the world. If we reflect back to his physical description earlier in this chapter we can see how Dickens aligns the pursuit of money with a person who described as dirty and greasy. A subtle concept perhaps, but we always need to pay attention to not only what a person says but their physical appearance as well.
Section 5
The Accident
As Arthur leaves Pancks and begins his solitary way home he becomes aware of an accident on the streets. Immediately, Arthur asks about the person’s state of health. This is a very clear example of how Arthur is very different from the Pancks of the world.
It turns out that the person in the accident is a Frenchman. It further turns out that this injured person is from Marseilles. At this point, our antenna may indeed begin to quiver. Arthur learns from the doctor that while the injury is serious, the person will live. Dickens portrays the kindness and generosity of Arthur.
Thoughts
Who might this person be from France? If so, why might have Dickens re-introduced his character into the novel?
Section 6
Arthur At Home Alone
As the chapter concludes Dickens turns his focus on Arthur. Dickens calls Arthur a dreamer, and a man of gentle and good thoughts even though his life has been one of pain and loss. A very telling comment comes in the following description. “Arthur sat before his dying fire, sorrowful to think upon the way by which he had come to that night… How soon I too shall pass through such changes, and be gone!”
Arthur is in the process of reviewing his life and sees little to look forward to, or even to look back upon. He questions what he has to look forward to in life. Dickens ends the chapter with the following:
“[Arthur’s] door was softly opened, and these spoken words startled him, and came as if they were an answer:
‘Little Dorrit.”
Thoughts
This chapter has given us further information about Arthur’s past, revealed his dislike of how the poor are treated, and demonstrated his ongoing kindness to those he knows and even strangers he encounters late at night on the streets of London. At this point in the novel what is you opinion of Arthur?
Dickens tells us that Arthur is seated before a ‘dying fire.” To what extent could this be foreshadowing of a disaster that might befall Arthur?
Patriarchal
“[Arthur] sat before his dying fire, sorrowful to think upon the way by which he had come to that night, yet not strewing poison on the way by which other man had come to it. But he should have missed so much and that his time of life should look so far about him for any staff to bear him company upon his download journey and share it, was a just regret.”
This is a very long chapter. In order for us to digest it I have decided to break it up into six sections. My logic is that by seeing each section by itself we will better understand the text.
Casby’s Connections
In the first section we take a look at Mr. Casby and see how he connects to various threads already established in the novel. We learn in the first paragraph of this chapter that once upon a time Mr. Casby’s daughter Flora was the beloved of Arthur. We also learn that Arthur believes that the case of Mr. Dorrit, Father of the Marshalsea, is hopeless. Thus, Arthur resigns his idea of helping Mr. Dorrit gain his freedom. Arthur takes himself to the home of Mr. Casby and as the door opens we find ourselves in yet another home that reflects its owner. The furniture is formal and grave, but well-kept. The most distinctive part of the house is the “grave clock, ticking.” We read that the fire “ticked in the grate.” Next we read that Arthur’s “loud watch in his pocket ticked audibly.” It appears that time may become an important part of what will occur in this chapter.
When Arthur sees Mr. Casby we learn that he had changed very little since Arthur saw him last. Casby is“so gray, so slow, so quiet, so compassionate so very bumpy in the head, Patriarch was the word for him.” We also learn that Casby was formally the Town-agent to Lord Decimus Tite Barnacle. Here we learn a connection to the Barnacle family. Next we learn that Casby has been in contact with Mr. Flintwinch. The next fact we learn is that Mr. Casby and Arthur’s parents “we’re not on friendly terms.” Casby assures Arthur, however, that the past is gone in the past is done. Casby then tells Arthur that he visits his mother occasionally and admired the her strength of mind as she bears her trials. As readers we wonder what these trials could be. Last, we learn that it was through Casby that Little Dorrit was introduced to Arthur’s mother.
Thoughts
Let us remember that as we entered the house the key symbol was the sound of a clock ticking. Time. I think it is important to remember the concept of time as we read through this chapter. What Dickens has done in the beginning of this chapter is create and explain some of the intricate connections among characters. To what extent does the information of the intertwined connections of characters in the beginning of this paragraph help you understand how the novel might progress in the coming chapters?
What is your opinion of Mr. Pancks? To what extent do you think that his physical appearance helped you to make that opinion?
We learn from Pancks that the connection between Casby and the Barnacles is one of property, and how Casby is a terrible man to those he has power over. Clearly these two men have a past together that is not one of kindness to those less fortunate than themselves. What conflicts might be developed by Dickens in the coming chapters regarding these men and their treatment of the poor?
Section 2
Flora
I will call this section Flora for the obvious reason that Flora, Casby’s daughter, arrives on the scene. We learn that Flora had only been married a few months before her husband died. This part of the chapter is very humourous and a welcome relief to much of what has come before in the novel. We could, in fact, call this section comic relief. Perhaps the best phrase in this section is when Dickens tells us that when Arthur’s eyes “ fell upon the subject of his old passion that it shivered and broke to pieces.” Arthur realizes that Flora, who had seemed enchanting in all she said and thought, was diffuse and silly.” The conversation between Arthur and Flora — or perhaps Flora at Arthur — is meant to make Flora a very unappealing person. Flora, on the other hand, seems to think she is in enchanting. As an outlier, I wonder how much Dickens drew upon his changing feelings towards his wife Catherine when he penned the description of Flora.
Section 3
The Dinner Table
Arthur stays for dinner and the conversation is painful to recall. Pancks talks about Bleeding Heart Yard and calls it “a troublesome property.” Arthur tries to be civil. There is little place for Arthur to hide with Flora on one side and Pancks on the other.
Thoughts
What do you think the main purpose of having Arthur be part of this dinner party was?
Has anything that was discussed at the dinner table either helped fill in the blanks of Arthur’s situation in London or hinted as to what might occur in the coming chapters?
Section 4
Homeward Bound
Arthur makes his escape from the Casby house accompanied by Mr. Pancks. More and more we find Pancks is a man who values money more than anything in the world. If we reflect back to his physical description earlier in this chapter we can see how Dickens aligns the pursuit of money with a person who described as dirty and greasy. A subtle concept perhaps, but we always need to pay attention to not only what a person says but their physical appearance as well.
Section 5
The Accident
As Arthur leaves Pancks and begins his solitary way home he becomes aware of an accident on the streets. Immediately, Arthur asks about the person’s state of health. This is a very clear example of how Arthur is very different from the Pancks of the world.
It turns out that the person in the accident is a Frenchman. It further turns out that this injured person is from Marseilles. At this point, our antenna may indeed begin to quiver. Arthur learns from the doctor that while the injury is serious, the person will live. Dickens portrays the kindness and generosity of Arthur.
Thoughts
Who might this person be from France? If so, why might have Dickens re-introduced his character into the novel?
Section 6
Arthur At Home Alone
As the chapter concludes Dickens turns his focus on Arthur. Dickens calls Arthur a dreamer, and a man of gentle and good thoughts even though his life has been one of pain and loss. A very telling comment comes in the following description. “Arthur sat before his dying fire, sorrowful to think upon the way by which he had come to that night… How soon I too shall pass through such changes, and be gone!”
Arthur is in the process of reviewing his life and sees little to look forward to, or even to look back upon. He questions what he has to look forward to in life. Dickens ends the chapter with the following:
“[Arthur’s] door was softly opened, and these spoken words startled him, and came as if they were an answer:
‘Little Dorrit.”
Thoughts
This chapter has given us further information about Arthur’s past, revealed his dislike of how the poor are treated, and demonstrated his ongoing kindness to those he knows and even strangers he encounters late at night on the streets of London. At this point in the novel what is you opinion of Arthur?
Dickens tells us that Arthur is seated before a ‘dying fire.” To what extent could this be foreshadowing of a disaster that might befall Arthur?
Chapter 14
Little Dorrit‘s Party
“Little Dorrit had put his hand to her lips, and would have kneeled to him, but he gently prevented her, and replaced her in her chair. “
This chapter begins with Arthur alone in his rooms. But he is not alone for long as little Dorrit appears at his door. Amy looks into Arthur’s dim room but what she sees is a place that is spacious and grandly furnished. Compared to her residence at the Marshalsea it certainly must appear to be grand. Arthur is struck with the fact that Amy is at his door at midnight, but Amy is not alone, because she has brought someone with her called Maggy. Arthur hurriedly prepares a fire to warm Amy. Amy tells Arthur that she prefers the name Little Dorrit and so we shall call her that for the remainder of the novel. :-) Maggy calls Little Dorrit “little mother“ which tells us that Little Dorrit is not only a mother to her father and her siblings but her love and kindness extends to another poor and homeless person outside the prison walls as well. Maggy is a simple creature and Dickens refers to her as a “big child.” As Little Dorrit looks at Arthur, Dickens tells us that she thought “what a good father he would be.” Hmmm. That’s interesting. Perhaps we need to tuck Little Dorrit’s private thought away in our minds.
The main reason that Little Dorrit has come is to thank Arthur for his kindness towards her brother Tip. She knows, however, that she must phrase her words in such a way that Arthur will both know what little Dorrit is saying but not actually acknowledge the same. Arthur is, of course, curious why little Dorrit and Maggy are out so late. We learn that Maggy and Little Dorrit have been to see her sister perform at a theatre. Little Dorrit has not told her father where she really was. Her father believes that Little Dorrit has been to a party. She confesses to Arthur that she has really never been to a party and says “I hope there is no harm in it. I could never have been of any use, if I had not pretended a little.” When we read these words it is evident that little Dorrit realizes her life in some ways is much like her sister’s, that she, much like her sister, is an actress, a person who acts, who pretends, who performs for the benefit of others. For those of us who, to this point in the novel dislike Mr Dorrit, there is more sorrow for Little Dorrit. She must know that her father should wonder where his daughter is until after midnight, and so Little Dorrit must invent a series of misdirections to pacify him. Whether Little Dorrit is at Mrs.Clennam’s, at a theatrical production, or within the Marshalsea with her father, her life is one of creating a series of false artifices.
Little Dorrit tells Arthur that there are three reasons she has come to him. The first is to thank Arthur for his kindness towards Tip without really identifying the fact that she knows how good Arthur is to her and her family. The second reason is to tell Arthur that she believes Mr. Flintwinch has been watching her. Little Dorrit tells Arthur that she has met him twice, both times near home, both times at night when she was returning to the Marshalsea. She reports to Arthur that Flintwinch never says anything when he passes her but rather seems to look away. These encounters make Little Dorrit anxious and she asks for Arthur’s advice as to what she should do. Arthur tells her he will speak to Affery on her behalf. The third reason little Dorrit wanted to see Arthur is to request that he not reveal any information about her actions or life outside the jail.
Thoughts
This midnight meeting between Arthur and Little Dorrit may seem strange to the reader. Why do you think Dickens included it in the story?
A new character by the name of Maggy has been introduced into the plot. She is a person who Little Dorrit apparently is also raising, or has at least befriended. What purpose could Maggy possibly serve in this novel?
This is the first time we have seen Arthur and Little Dorrit have a personal and extended conversation. It happens at midnight. Usually, in a Victorian novel, such a meeting would be inappropriate for a male and female who are not married. Were you at all concerned, upset, or curious as to why Dickens created this element of the plot?
When Little Dorrit and Maggy leave Arthur’s residence he discretely follows them until he assumes they find shelter near the Marshalsea. Such is not the case. Little Dorrit and Maggy quietly knock on a door but no one answers. This means they must find shelter on the streets of London until the morning when the Marshalsea will open its doors. The night brings challenges and encounters with other poor and homeless people. As daylight approaches, Little Dorrit and Maggy find a church’s door open and enter. It turns out to be the church where Little Dorrit was baptized. The church official recognizes Little Dorrit and knows her life story. He gets a pillow for her head and uses a volume burial to prop the pillow up. The church official tells little Dorrit that the burial books are interesting but the most interesting fact is something else “who is coming you know, and when. That’s the interesting question.”
We are told that Little Dorrit “was soon fast asleep with her head resting on that sealed book of Fate, untroubled by its mysterious blank pages.” Dickens concludes the chapter: “this was Little Dorrit’s party. The shame, desertion, righteousness, and exposure of the great capital… This was the party from which little Dorrit went home, jaded, in the first grey mist of the rainy morning.”
Thoughts
First, let’s take a look back at the previous chapter. Dickens will often set two consecutive chapters up as a means of comparison or contrast. Chapters 13 and 14 are a case in point. In Chapter 13 we dine at Casby’s home with his daughter and his agent Mr. Pancks. The narrative in this chapter tells of a man of wealth has very little concern for the renters of his properties. Pancks, his collection agent, has no concern for any of the poor who live in Bleeding Heart Yard. Coupled with this callousness, we have Flora, Casby’s widowed daughter, who lacks all sense and understanding of the world beyond her self-inflated mind and memory. These characters all gather for a dinner in the comfort of Casby’s home. In contrast, in Chapter 14 we move to the midnight streets of London where the poor can find no homes and Little Dorrit can find sleep only by laying her head on a book that registers deaths. Do you find this method of plotting a novel effective?
In this week’s chapters we see a contrast between Arthur’s early infatuation with Flora and his friendship with Little Dorrit. In what ways does Dickens compare and contrast these two characters for his readers?
There is a marvellous allegorical painting by William Holman Hunt titled The Light of the World. It was completed in the early 1850’s. The novel Little Dorrit was written after the painting was presented to the Victorian public. Dickens and Hunt, while not friends, were certainly aware of each other. When I reflect on this chapter, I often think of Hunt’s painting. In the novel, Little Dorrit and Maggy seek a place to spend the night and knock on a door but no one answers. They spend the night wandering the streets of London before discovering the open door of a church. In the church they find shelter and Little Dorrit finally sleeps with her head upon a book that is a register of deaths. When we recall that Little Dorrit appeared at Arthur’s door at midnight and think back to the prison cell doors and the main door to the Marshalsea we begin to recognize that Dickens is highlighting the presence of doors in this novel. As we go forward in the novel let’s be aware of the presence of doors. Some doors lock people in, some doors keep people out, and some doors open to the presence of both opportunity and danger. In Hunt's painting the central allegorical feature of the painting is the fact that while Christ knocks on the door there is no handle on His side of the door. Someone must open the door from the inside to let in the light of the world. Who might that be in this novel?
Little Dorrit‘s Party
“Little Dorrit had put his hand to her lips, and would have kneeled to him, but he gently prevented her, and replaced her in her chair. “
This chapter begins with Arthur alone in his rooms. But he is not alone for long as little Dorrit appears at his door. Amy looks into Arthur’s dim room but what she sees is a place that is spacious and grandly furnished. Compared to her residence at the Marshalsea it certainly must appear to be grand. Arthur is struck with the fact that Amy is at his door at midnight, but Amy is not alone, because she has brought someone with her called Maggy. Arthur hurriedly prepares a fire to warm Amy. Amy tells Arthur that she prefers the name Little Dorrit and so we shall call her that for the remainder of the novel. :-) Maggy calls Little Dorrit “little mother“ which tells us that Little Dorrit is not only a mother to her father and her siblings but her love and kindness extends to another poor and homeless person outside the prison walls as well. Maggy is a simple creature and Dickens refers to her as a “big child.” As Little Dorrit looks at Arthur, Dickens tells us that she thought “what a good father he would be.” Hmmm. That’s interesting. Perhaps we need to tuck Little Dorrit’s private thought away in our minds.
The main reason that Little Dorrit has come is to thank Arthur for his kindness towards her brother Tip. She knows, however, that she must phrase her words in such a way that Arthur will both know what little Dorrit is saying but not actually acknowledge the same. Arthur is, of course, curious why little Dorrit and Maggy are out so late. We learn that Maggy and Little Dorrit have been to see her sister perform at a theatre. Little Dorrit has not told her father where she really was. Her father believes that Little Dorrit has been to a party. She confesses to Arthur that she has really never been to a party and says “I hope there is no harm in it. I could never have been of any use, if I had not pretended a little.” When we read these words it is evident that little Dorrit realizes her life in some ways is much like her sister’s, that she, much like her sister, is an actress, a person who acts, who pretends, who performs for the benefit of others. For those of us who, to this point in the novel dislike Mr Dorrit, there is more sorrow for Little Dorrit. She must know that her father should wonder where his daughter is until after midnight, and so Little Dorrit must invent a series of misdirections to pacify him. Whether Little Dorrit is at Mrs.Clennam’s, at a theatrical production, or within the Marshalsea with her father, her life is one of creating a series of false artifices.
Little Dorrit tells Arthur that there are three reasons she has come to him. The first is to thank Arthur for his kindness towards Tip without really identifying the fact that she knows how good Arthur is to her and her family. The second reason is to tell Arthur that she believes Mr. Flintwinch has been watching her. Little Dorrit tells Arthur that she has met him twice, both times near home, both times at night when she was returning to the Marshalsea. She reports to Arthur that Flintwinch never says anything when he passes her but rather seems to look away. These encounters make Little Dorrit anxious and she asks for Arthur’s advice as to what she should do. Arthur tells her he will speak to Affery on her behalf. The third reason little Dorrit wanted to see Arthur is to request that he not reveal any information about her actions or life outside the jail.
Thoughts
This midnight meeting between Arthur and Little Dorrit may seem strange to the reader. Why do you think Dickens included it in the story?
A new character by the name of Maggy has been introduced into the plot. She is a person who Little Dorrit apparently is also raising, or has at least befriended. What purpose could Maggy possibly serve in this novel?
This is the first time we have seen Arthur and Little Dorrit have a personal and extended conversation. It happens at midnight. Usually, in a Victorian novel, such a meeting would be inappropriate for a male and female who are not married. Were you at all concerned, upset, or curious as to why Dickens created this element of the plot?
When Little Dorrit and Maggy leave Arthur’s residence he discretely follows them until he assumes they find shelter near the Marshalsea. Such is not the case. Little Dorrit and Maggy quietly knock on a door but no one answers. This means they must find shelter on the streets of London until the morning when the Marshalsea will open its doors. The night brings challenges and encounters with other poor and homeless people. As daylight approaches, Little Dorrit and Maggy find a church’s door open and enter. It turns out to be the church where Little Dorrit was baptized. The church official recognizes Little Dorrit and knows her life story. He gets a pillow for her head and uses a volume burial to prop the pillow up. The church official tells little Dorrit that the burial books are interesting but the most interesting fact is something else “who is coming you know, and when. That’s the interesting question.”
We are told that Little Dorrit “was soon fast asleep with her head resting on that sealed book of Fate, untroubled by its mysterious blank pages.” Dickens concludes the chapter: “this was Little Dorrit’s party. The shame, desertion, righteousness, and exposure of the great capital… This was the party from which little Dorrit went home, jaded, in the first grey mist of the rainy morning.”
Thoughts
First, let’s take a look back at the previous chapter. Dickens will often set two consecutive chapters up as a means of comparison or contrast. Chapters 13 and 14 are a case in point. In Chapter 13 we dine at Casby’s home with his daughter and his agent Mr. Pancks. The narrative in this chapter tells of a man of wealth has very little concern for the renters of his properties. Pancks, his collection agent, has no concern for any of the poor who live in Bleeding Heart Yard. Coupled with this callousness, we have Flora, Casby’s widowed daughter, who lacks all sense and understanding of the world beyond her self-inflated mind and memory. These characters all gather for a dinner in the comfort of Casby’s home. In contrast, in Chapter 14 we move to the midnight streets of London where the poor can find no homes and Little Dorrit can find sleep only by laying her head on a book that registers deaths. Do you find this method of plotting a novel effective?
In this week’s chapters we see a contrast between Arthur’s early infatuation with Flora and his friendship with Little Dorrit. In what ways does Dickens compare and contrast these two characters for his readers?
There is a marvellous allegorical painting by William Holman Hunt titled The Light of the World. It was completed in the early 1850’s. The novel Little Dorrit was written after the painting was presented to the Victorian public. Dickens and Hunt, while not friends, were certainly aware of each other. When I reflect on this chapter, I often think of Hunt’s painting. In the novel, Little Dorrit and Maggy seek a place to spend the night and knock on a door but no one answers. They spend the night wandering the streets of London before discovering the open door of a church. In the church they find shelter and Little Dorrit finally sleeps with her head upon a book that is a register of deaths. When we recall that Little Dorrit appeared at Arthur’s door at midnight and think back to the prison cell doors and the main door to the Marshalsea we begin to recognize that Dickens is highlighting the presence of doors in this novel. As we go forward in the novel let’s be aware of the presence of doors. Some doors lock people in, some doors keep people out, and some doors open to the presence of both opportunity and danger. In Hunt's painting the central allegorical feature of the painting is the fact that while Christ knocks on the door there is no handle on His side of the door. Someone must open the door from the inside to let in the light of the world. Who might that be in this novel?

I love this observation. The imagination is such a key theme in a lot of Dickens books, and this gives me a focus to look for it in this book about prisons.
That said, Amy should never have to do this. If you're at a point where you have to lie to the people you live with, something's very, very wrong and you don't love them as much as you think you do. Amy's lying to herself as well--especially in the part of the chapter where by some kind of tortured logic she begs Arthur not to encourage her father to beg, not because she is ashamed of him but because she is so proud of him she doesn't want people to see him behaving shamefully. That means you find his behavior shameful, Amy. Her father clearly is beyond shame: it's all hers.
I find Amy hard to take.

I'm on the fence on Arthur. I really enjoyed the description of him sitting alone at the end of Chapter 13 and presented as someone with a turn of character disappointment could not spoil. Especially the idea that no matter what happens to him, he's not going to use this as an opportunity to go sour on the world. He can rise above his own unhappiness to be glad of happiness for others:
And this saved him still from the whimpering weakness and cruel selfishness of holding that because such a happiness or such a virtue had not come into his little path, or worked well for him, therefore it was not in the great scheme, but was reducible, when found in appearance, to the basest elements. A disappointed mind he had, but a mind too firm and healthy for such unwholesome air. Leaving himself in the dark, it could rise into the light, seeing it shine on others and hailing it.
I wish I were more like that myself: it's too easy to envy what I don't have that others get, rather than to appreciate it. I don't know if Arthur's character is realistic, but it's admirable--and I don't mind having a model held up that's a bit unachievable. It doesn't hurt to know what you wish things or people or even yourself could be like, so that at least you can aim a little higher and maybe make it part of the way.
But--I also find Arthur a bit of a patronizing whiner. I'm disappointed in how thoroughly he turns on Flora (though that is funny, too), I'm suspicious of the ego-investment in his sudden and intrusive interest in Amy and her family, and I still don't get why a man of 40 years and independent income is blaming his mother for his life not turning out the way he likes.

Julie wrote: "Peter wrote: "She confesses to Arthur that she has really never been to a party and says “I hope there is no harm in it. I could never have been of any use, if I had not pretended a little.” When w..."
Hi Julie
I struggle with my feelings towards Little Dorrit. Her father and her siblings are either totally reliant on her or on the fringes of reliance. In many ways, I think Little Dorrit is an enabler. Her father has perfected the role of being needy, so much so that he has made an art form of his position within the Marshalsea and the mind of Amy.
As for Tip, I think he has fallen off the wagon once and seems to have little resilience for the challenges of life. His sister seems to have made some headway in life. While being an actress was not seen as being the most noble of professions in the 19C there has been to date no indication of her falling into disrepute.
Hi Julie
I struggle with my feelings towards Little Dorrit. Her father and her siblings are either totally reliant on her or on the fringes of reliance. In many ways, I think Little Dorrit is an enabler. Her father has perfected the role of being needy, so much so that he has made an art form of his position within the Marshalsea and the mind of Amy.
As for Tip, I think he has fallen off the wagon once and seems to have little resilience for the challenges of life. His sister seems to have made some headway in life. While being an actress was not seen as being the most noble of professions in the 19C there has been to date no indication of her falling into disrepute.

Yes, I am very curious about her sister and would like to hear more of her.

Of course not. peace, janz

Julie, I also agree with your thoughts on shame. Haven't we all had circumstances in which we've been ashamed of a family member's behaviour, and felt as if we should apologize and make excuses? All in an effort to make ourselves look better in comparison. What are we - and Amy - to do? She loves these reprobates, so she doesn't want to cut them out of her life, but they're definitely holding her down. I don't think it would hurt to give them a dose of truth instead of all the pretense. But I wonder - would it help?

I couldn't help but think of "The Dinner Party" episode of The Office as I read this. Both of these dinners were about as uncomfortable and awkward as an evening can be. Which made them a delight for those of us who were flies on the wall. Mr. F's Aunt is a hoot, and I'm sure any time she comes into a scene, there will be a treat in store for the reader.
I looked up Hunt's painting, but didn't notice the lack of a handle until reading your comment further. That little detail makes all the difference. I'll keep that painting and your comments about it in mind as we go forward.
Arthur and Amy are both fixers. Arthur, for whatever reason, has made a project of the Dorrits. Do they want to be "fixed"? Amy seems grateful; I wonder if the others will. Amy, too, is trying to fix things for her family and Maggy. It will be interesting to watch how A & A go about this, and how it's received. As their individual projects coincide, will they work together, or have a difference of opinion about how to go about things? Amy's doing this for family, whereas Arthur's a stranger and a newcomer. I think I'd be a bit resentful of someone presumptuously swooping in and interfering, despite their best intentions. Is Arthur just another Mrs. Pardiggle (Bleak House)? This may be one of the meanings of "Bleeding Heart Yard" that you were referring to, Peter.

He's certainly not painted as a likeable or trustworthy person, but I can't help but notice his interaction with Mr. F's Aunt. I have great admiration for people who treat the elderly, infirmed, and demented with dignity. He's not at all condescending, but he's comfortable with her, and treats her with dignity where she is, if you know what I mean. Something to keep in mind.
Mary Lou wrote: "PS re: Panks....
He's certainly not painted as a likeable or trustworthy person, but I can't help but notice his interaction with Mr. F's Aunt. I have great admiration for people who treat the eld..."
Mary Lou
I completely missed this angle of interpretation. Thank you.
He's certainly not painted as a likeable or trustworthy person, but I can't help but notice his interaction with Mr. F's Aunt. I have great admiration for people who treat the eld..."
Mary Lou
I completely missed this angle of interpretation. Thank you.
Mary Lou wrote: "Chapter 13 was wonderful, but I do wish Dickens had split it up. Thank you for doing it, Peter. I wonder why Dickens didn't end it when Arthur and Panks departed Casby's home.
I couldn't help but..."
Mary Lou
I agree that both Arthur and Amy (A & A … love it!) are fixers. How they choose to go about fixing what they perceive as wrong, and whether their fixing with lead to strife or harmony among the other characters remains to be seen. At present they are working from opposite financial positions. One question that may arise is to what extent money can solve a problem. We shall see.
Indeed, perhaps money could be exactly what is not needed. If we have a place called Bleeding Heart Lane and an institution called The Circumlocution Office then what name could be assigned to the workings of the human heart?
I’m glad you enjoyed Holman Hunt’s picture. There is much allegory and symbolism in it. Hunt painted a companion picture which he titled “The Awakening Conscience.” It too is rich in symbolism. This painting has often been connected to the novel David Copperfield. I had the good fortune to hear an analysis that linked the painting to the relationship between Steerforth and Little Em’ly and how it represents the moment of Little Em’ly’s awakening. Fascinating.
I couldn't help but..."
Mary Lou
I agree that both Arthur and Amy (A & A … love it!) are fixers. How they choose to go about fixing what they perceive as wrong, and whether their fixing with lead to strife or harmony among the other characters remains to be seen. At present they are working from opposite financial positions. One question that may arise is to what extent money can solve a problem. We shall see.
Indeed, perhaps money could be exactly what is not needed. If we have a place called Bleeding Heart Lane and an institution called The Circumlocution Office then what name could be assigned to the workings of the human heart?
I’m glad you enjoyed Holman Hunt’s picture. There is much allegory and symbolism in it. Hunt painted a companion picture which he titled “The Awakening Conscience.” It too is rich in symbolism. This painting has often been connected to the novel David Copperfield. I had the good fortune to hear an analysis that linked the painting to the relationship between Steerforth and Little Em’ly and how it represents the moment of Little Em’ly’s awakening. Fascinating.


Yes! She's great. And I love it that she has no other name.
No, I don't really think telling them the truth would help Amy's family. I guess it's more her lying to herself that I'm concerned about.


peace, janz

She is an enabler, but I do not think she has had a chance to learn to be anything else. This applies to Arthur as well.
I also got the sense that Little Dorritt has a bit of a martyr complex. I can't find a particular quote, but her interactions with Maggy and the lady of the night that approached them...left an odd taste in my figurative mouth.

Original version

Manchester version

Later St. Paul's version
The Light of the World
Holman Hunt
The Light of the World (1851–1853) is an allegorical painting by the English Pre-Raphaelite artist William Holman Hunt (1827–1910) representing the figure of Jesus preparing to knock on an overgrown and long-unopened door, illustrating Revelation 3:20: "Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if any man hear My voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me". According to Hunt: "I painted the picture with what I thought, unworthy though I was, to be divine command, and not simply a good subject." The door in the painting has no handle, and can therefore be opened only from the inside, representing "the obstinately shut mind". The painting was considered by many to be the most important and culturally influential rendering of Christ of its time.
The original is variously said to have been painted at night in a makeshift hut at Worcester Park Farm in Surrey, and in the garden of the Oxford University Press, while it is suggested that Hunt found the dawn light he needed outside Bethlehem on one of his visits to the Holy Land. In oil on canvas, it was begun around 1849 or 1850 and completed in 1853. It was exhibited at the Royal Academy in 1854 and is now in the side chapel at Keble College, Oxford. The painting was donated to the college by Martha Combe, the widow of Thomas Combe, Printer to the University of Oxford, Tractarian, and a patron of the Pre-Raphaelites, in the year following his death in 1872, on the understanding that it would hang in the chapel (constructed 1873–1876), but the building's architect William Butterfield was opposed to that and made no provision in his design. When the college library opened in 1878 it was placed there, and was moved to its present position only after the construction of the side chapel to accommodate it, in 1892–1895, by another architect, J. T. Micklethwaite.
A second, smaller version of the work, painted by Hunt between 1851 and 1856, is on display at Manchester City Art Gallery, England, which purchased it in 1912. There are small differences between that and the first version, such as the angle of the gaze, and the drape of the corner of the red cloak.
The fact that, at the time, Keble College charged a fee to view the picture, persuaded Hunt to paint a larger, life-sized, version toward the end of his life. He began it in about 1900 and finished in 1904. Shipowner and social reformer, Charles Booth, purchased the work and it was hung in St Paul's Cathedral, London. It was dedicated there in 1908, following a 1905–1907 world tour, during which the picture drew large crowds. It was claimed that four-fifths of Australia's population viewed it. Due to Hunt's increasing infirmity and glaucoma, he was assisted in the completion of this version by English painter Edward Robert Hughes (who also assisted with Hunt's version of The Lady of Shalott). The third version diverges more from the original than the second one.

She tenderly hushed the baby in her arms.
Chapter 12, Book 1
James Mahoney
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And stooping down to pinch the cheek of another young child who was sitting on the floor, staring at him, asked Mrs. Plornish how old that fine boy was?
Four year just turned, sir," said Mrs. Plornish. "He is a fine little fellow, ain't he, sir? But this one is rather sickly." She tenderly hushed the baby in her arms, as she said it. 'You wouldn't mind my asking if it happened to be a job as you was come about, sir, would you?" asked Mrs. Plornish wistfully.
She asked it so anxiously, that if he had been in possession of any kind of tenement, he would have had it plastered a foot deep rather than answer No. But he was obliged to answer No; and he saw a shade of disappointment on her face, as she checked a sigh, and looked at the low fire. Then he saw, also, that Mrs. Plornish was a young woman, made somewhat slatternly in herself and her belongings by poverty; and so dragged at by poverty and the children together, that their united forces had already dragged her face into wrinkles. — Book the First, "Poverty," Chapter 12.
Commentary:
The following caption is considerably longer in the Harper and Bros. (New York) edition, and makes the error of situating the illustration in Chapter 11:
And stooping down to pinch the cheek of another young child who was sitting on the floor, staring at him, asked Mrs. Plornish how old that fine boy was? "Four year, just turned, sir," said Mrs. Plornish. "He's a fine little fellow, a'int he, sir, but this one is rather sickly." She tenderly hushed the baby in her arms as she said it.
The Mahoney illustration departs from Phiz's original illustrations in that Phiz did not provide an illustration for the chapter in which Arthur visits the rooms of the plasterer, Plornish, in Bleeding Heart Yard, a scene that acquaints the reader with the class below Dickens's — the working poor. Rather, Phiz had illustrated Chapter 9 with Little Mother, showing Clennam's developing interest in Amy Dorrit, and Chapter 11 with Making Off, following the Rigaud-Cavaletto plot, both in the third monthly part (February 1856).
The meeting of the Plornishes and Arthur Clennam is the result of his trying to determine precisely how Little Dorrit came to work for his mother. Apparently they assisted her in disseminating hand-written advertisements which resulted in Mrs. Clennam's hiring Amy as a seamstress. Moreover, here in Bleeding Heart Yard, a ghetto in the midst of a mixed housing and industrial neighborhood, Clennam confronts the plight of the working, urban poor. As an independent businessman, Plornish should be regarded a member of the middle class, like Joe Gargery in Great Expectations (1861), but, since he is only infrequently employed, he easily falls into debt, and thus for a brief time had become an inmate of the Marshalsea, which is precisely where he and his wife would have met Little Dorrit and her gentlemanly father, whom the Plornishes regard as belonging to a class decidedly above their own. Consequently, at least as far as the Plornishes know, Fanny and Amy have kept their employments secret from Mr. Dorrit.
While he awaits the arrival of her husband, genuinely interested in the Plornish children apparently, the thoroughly bourgeois Arthur Clennam (as signified by his tailcoat, cane, and top-hat) tries to engage the young mother in conversation about her children. Although he focuses on the stout four-year-old boy before him in a linen smock, Mrs. Plornish is absorbed by the sickly condition of her infant, whom she is hoping that Clennam will assist by giving her husband a contract. The illustrator conveys the look of apprehension mixed with disappointment on her face, but does not convey her wistfulness. Washing hangs on the line behind them, and a slight fire illuminates the fireplace (right).

Mr. F's Aunt is conducted into retirement
Chapter 13
Phiz
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There was a fourth and most original figure in the Patriarchal tent, who also appeared before dinner. This was an amazing littl old woman, with a face like a staring wooden doll too cheap for expression, and a stiff yellow wig perched unevenly on the top of her head, as if the child who owned the doll had driven a tack through it anywhere, so that it only got fastened on. Another remarkable thing in this little old woman was, that the same child seemed to have damaged her face in two or three places with some blunt instrument in the nature of a spoon; her countenance, and particularly the tip of her nose, presenting the phenomena of several dints, generally answering to the bowl of that article. A further remarkable thing in this little old woman was, that she had no name but Mr F.'s Aunt.
. . . . Flora had just said, "Mr. Clennam, will you give me a glass of port for Mr. F.'s Aunt?"
"The Monument near London Bridge," that lady instantly proclaimed, "was put up arter the Great Fire of London; and the Great Fire of London was not the fire in which your uncle George's workshops was burned down."
Mr. Pancks, with his former courage, said, "Indeed, ma'am? All right!" But appearing to be incensed by imaginary contradiction, or other ill-usage, Mr. F.'s Aunt, instead of relapsing into silence, made the following additional proclamation:
"I hate a fool."
She imparted to this sentiment, in itself almost Solomonic, so extremely injurious and personal a character by levelling it straight at the visitor's head, that it became necessary to lead Mr. F.'s Aunt from the room. This was quietly done by Flora; Mr. F.'s Aunt offering no resistance, but inquiring on her way out, "What he come there for, then?" with implacable animosity.
When Flora returned, she explained that her legacy was a clever old lady, but was sometimes a little singular, and 'took dislikes' — peculiarities of which Flora seemed to be proud rather than otherwise.
Commentary:
In the original serial installment, Phiz demonstrates the hero's realization that renewing his former relationship with Flora Finching (nee Casby) is hardly possible. Above the benign figure of age, the patriarchal and Quaker-like, white, silken haired Mr. Casby Phiz has situated the boyhood portrait of the capitalist, a reminder to Arthur Clennam and the reader of both the resemblance and the disjuncture between a youthful figure and his or her mature equivalent, precisely the kind of double image that Clennam has been bearing in mind with respect to Flora Casby/Flora Finching. The disturbing elements in this journey down memory lane include Clennam's seeing both Flora and her father for what they really are and the col tempo reminder of the withering and decaying effects of age as evident in Mr. F's Aunt.

Clennam is introduced to "Mr. F.'s Aunt."
Chapter 13, Book 1
Harry Furniss
Commentary:
Fin-de-siécle illustrator Harry Furniss's interpretation of the awkward dinner at the Patriarchal mansion. The lithograph occurs facing page 160, but the passage illustrated occurs two pages later, setting up expectations in the reader about the nature of Arthur's visit to the Casby mansion. The accompanying caption identifies the precise lines realized (with some condensing of the original text):
A fourth figure in the Patriarchal tent, whom Flora introduced as "Mr. F's Aunt," was an amazing little old woman, with a face like a staring wooden doll, too cheap for expression, and a stiff yellow wig perched unevenly on the top of her head.
The Furniss illustration captures the character comedy of the situation, and Arthur Clennam's discomfiture, which, in fact, occurs after the peculiar Aunt speaks. Furniss reinterprets the original serial illustration of March 1856, Mr. F.'s Aunt is conducted into Retirement.
In the original serial installment, Phiz demonstrates the hero's realization that renewing his former relationship with Flora Finching (nee Casby) is hardly possible. In Furniss's redrafting, the dinner-guest, Arthur Clennam, is the focal point for this scene full of caricature, from the presiding, Quaker-like "Patriarch" to the calculating businessman, Casby (right). Clennam rises abruptly from his chair, not quite sure what to make of Mr. F's Aunt, or of the sweetheart who seems to disregard her aunt's rude and erratic behaviour, which Furniss again emphasizes in, Mr. F.'s Aunt.

The servant maid had ticked the two words, "Mr. Clennam," so softly, that she had not been heard
Chapter 13, Book 1
James Mahoney
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When his knock at the bright brass knocker of obsolete shape brought a woman-servant to the door, those faded scents in truth saluted him like wintry breath that had a faint remembrance in it of the bygone spring. He stepped into the sober, silent, air-tight houseone might have fancied it to have been stifled by Mutes in the Eastern manner— and the door, closing again, seemed to shut outsound and motion. The furniture was formal, grave, and quaker-like, but well-kept; and had as prepossessing an aspect as anything, from a human creature to a wooden stool, that is meant for much use and is preserved for little, can ever wear. There was a grave clock, ticking somewhere up the staircase; and there was a songless bird in the same direction, pecking at his cage, as if he were ticking too. The parlour-fire ticked in the grate. There was only one person on the parlour-hearth, and the loud watch in his pocket ticked audibly.
The servant-maid had ticked the two words "Mr. Clennam" so softly that she had not been heard; and he consequently stood, within thedoor she had closed, unnoticed. The figure of a man advanced in life, whose smooth grey eyebrows seemed to move to the ticking as the fire-light flickered on them, sat in an arm-chair, with his list shoes on the rug, and his thumbs slowly revolving over one another. This was old Christopher Casby — recognisable at a glance — as unchanged in twenty years and upward as his own solid furniture — as little touched by the influence of the varying seasons as the old rose-leaves and old lavender in his porcelain jars. — Book the First, "Poverty," Chapter 13.
Commentary:
Mr. Christopher Casby, the father of Arthur Clennam's former sweetheart, Flora (now, the widow Mrs. Finching), has not changed one bit during Arthur's twenty-year absence in China. Arthur's quest for information about the Dorrits has taken him to Bleeding Heart Yard, one of Mr. Casby's rental properties — and part of rent-collector Pancks's route on rent-day. Clennam's staying to dinner affords him the opportunity to study his adolescent sweetheart, now twenty years older but still flirtatious, loquacious, and vacuous — and now more than a little overweight. Shown in the original 1857 steel-engraving, the widow's "legacy," the demented, elderly aunt of her deceased husband, guards Flora jealousy, scaring away prospective suitors such as Arthur Clennam with her erratic behaviour, non-sequiturs, and insults. Rather than merely repeat or reinterpret the Phiz illustration for this chapter, Mahoney selects the earlier interview between Casby and Clennam to intensify the melancholy mood as the protagonist re-visits a past that he cannot recapture and as youthful feeling that he cannot reconstitute.

Flora and Mr. F's Aunt
Chapter 13, Book 1
Sol Eytinge Jr.
Commentary:
The fourth illustration, unlike the others before it, does not introduce its subjects in a characteristic setting (such as Rigaud and Cavaletto's cell) or with significant appurtenances (such as Mrs. Clennam's symbols of inflexibility and control, her wheel-chair and bell-pull). Rather, Eytinge has chosen to focus on the faces and the dresses of the women alone to suggest their relationship and characters, but places them in such close proximity to graph the col tempo theme: what Mr. F's aunt is Flora will become. But, again, as the other plates in the series thus far have realised a specific passage in the narrative, here in Chapter 13, "Patriarchal," Eytinge captures the moment when the young widow Flora Finching leads Mr. F.'s Aunt from the dining room: "it became necessary to lead Mr. F.'s Aunt from the room. This was quietly done by Flora; Mr. F.'s Aunt offering no resistance, but inquiring on her way out, 'What he come there for, then?' with implacable animosity". In describing the appearance of Arthur Clennam's former sweetheart and of her sharp contrast, Mr. F.'s "legacy," the vacuous aunt, Eytinge has actually conflated two separate descriptive passages in his illustration, beginning with the flirtatious Flora herself:
Flora, always tall, had grown to be very broad too, and short of breath; but that was not much. Flora, whom he had left a lily, had become a peony; but that was not much. Flora, who had seemed enchanting in all she said and thought, was diffuse and silly. That was much. Flora, who had been spoiled and artless long ago, was determined to be spoiled and artless now. That was a fatal blow.
This is Flora!
"I am sure," giggled Flora, tossing her head with a caricature of her girlish manner, such as a mummer might have presented at her own funeral, if she had lived and died in classical antiquity, "I am ashamed to see Mr. Clennam, I am a mere fright, I know he'll find me fearfully changed, I am actually an old woman, it's shocking to be found out, it's really shocking!" [Ch. 13, "Patriarchal"]
Whereas Eytinge interprets the aunt as senile and one-dimensional, he suggests through the fullness of Flora's rounded face and figure that she is, despite her superficiality, attractive and kind-hearted. He contrasts these positive aspects of Flora's character with the aged thinness (so apt for one whose remarks are always totally irrelevant to the topic in hand) of Mr. F's Aunt, whom Eytinge has realized in every visual particular from Dickens's narration of Arthur Clennam's dinner with Mr. Casby and his childhood sweetheart, who has not merely grown up but out as the recently widowed Mrs. Flinching:
There was a fourth and most original figure in the Patriarchal tent, who also appeared before dinner. This was an amazing little old woman, with a face like a staring wooden doll too cheap for expression, and a stiff yellow wig perched unevenly on the top of her head, as if the child who owned the doll had driven a tack through it anywhere, so that it only got fastened on. Another remarkable thing in this little old woman was, that the same child seemed to have damaged her face in two or three places with some blunt instrument in the nature of a spoon; her countenance, and particularly the tip of her nose, presenting the phenomena of several dints, generally answering to the bowl of that article. A further remarkable thing in this little old woman was, that she had no name but Mr. F.'s Aunt.
She broke upon the visitor's view under the following circumstances: Flora said when the first dish was being put on the table, perhaps Mr Clennam might not have heard that Mr F. had left her a legacy? Clennam in return implied his hope that Mr. F. had endowed the wife whom he adored, with the greater part of his worldly substance, if not with all. Flora said, oh yes, she didn't mean that, Mr. F. had made a beautiful will, but he had left her as a separate legacy, his Aunt. She then went out of the room to fetch the legacy, and, on her return, rather triumphantly presented "Mr. F.'s Aunt."
The major characteristics discoverable by the stranger in Mr. F.'s Aunt, were extreme severity and grim taciturnity; sometimes interrupted by a propensity to offer remarks in a deep warning voice, which, being totally uncalled for by anything said by anybody, and traceable to no association of ideas, confounded and terrified the Mind. Mr. F.'s Aunt may have thrown in these observations on some system of her own, and it may have been ingenious, or even subtle: but the key to it was wanted.
There is something of the somnambulist about Mr. F.'s Aunt as Flora gently takes the elderly lady's extended arm to help her keep her balance, or simply prop her up physically as she does in her conversation. The quality that Eytinge does not communicate is her defiance of Arthur Clennam throughout the meal, perhaps born of her conviction that Arthur has returned from China to claim his bride and deprive Mr. F.'s Aunt of her sole prop and support in life. All of this the reader will have surmised before encountering Eytinge's illustration, when Flora leads Mr. F.'s Aunt from the room.

Little Dorrit
Chapter 13, Book 1
James Mahoney
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Therefore, he sat before his dying fire, sorrowful to think upon the way by which he had come to that night, yet not strewing poison on the way by which other men had come to it. That he should have missed so much, and at his time of life should look so far about him for any staff to bear him company upon his downward journey and cheer it, was a just regret. He looked at the fire from which the blaze departed, from which the afterglow subsided, in which the ashes turned grey, from which they dropped to dust, and thought, "How soon I too shall pass through such changes, and be gone!" To review his life was like descending a green tree in fruit and flower, and seeing all the branches wither and drop off, one by one, as he came down towards them. "From the unhappy suppression of my youngest days, through the rigid and unloving home that followed them, through my departure, my long exile, my return, my mother's welcome, my intercourse with her since, down to the afternoon of this day with poor Flora," said Arthur Clennam, "what have I found!" His door was softly opened, and these spoken words startled him, and came as if they were an answer: "Little Dorrit."
[Chapter 14: "Little Dorrit's Party"] Arthur Clennam rose hastily, and saw her standing at the door. This history must sometimes see with Little Dorrit’s eyes, and shall begin that course by seeing him. Little Dorrit looked into a dim room, which seemed a spacious one to her, and grandly furnished. Courtly ideas of Covent Garden, as a place with famous coffee-houses, where gentlemen wearing gold-laced coats and swords had quarrelled and fought duels; costly ideas of Covent Garden, as a place where there were flowers in winter at guineas a-piece, pine-apples at guineas a pound, and peas at guineas a pint; picturesque ideas of Covent Garden, as a place where there was a mighty theatre, showing wonderful and beautiful sights to richly-dressed ladies and gentlemen, and which was for ever far beyond the reach of poor Fanny or poor uncle; desolate ideas of Covent Garden, as having all those arches in it, where the miserable children in rags among whom she had just now passed, like young rats, slunk and hid, fed on offal, huddled together for warmth, and were hunted about (look to the rats young and old, all ye Barnacles, for before God they are eating away our foundations, and will bring the roofs on our heads!); teeming ideas of Covent Garden, as a place of past and present mystery, romance, abundance, want, beauty, ugliness, fair country gardens, and foul street gutters; all confused together, — made the room dimmer than it was in Little Dorrit's eyes, as they timidly saw it from the door. — Book the First, "Poverty," end of Chapter 13, and beginning of Chapter 14.
Commentary:
In the New York edition, the caption for this scene at the end of chapter 13 is: His door was softly opened, and these spoken words startled him, and came as if they were an answer, "Little Dorrit".
The large-scale, full-page frontispiece enforces a proleptic reading as the passage realized is some eighty-four pages away, when the narrative focus shifts from Arthur Clennam's reverie about his own sad childhood and melancholy upbringing to Little Dorrit's perspective.
After a night at the theatre in company with Maggy, Little Dorrit visits Arthur Clennam in his rooms overlooking Covent Garden to thank him for arranging her brother Tip's release from the Marshalsea. As a consequence of the extra activity after an evening at the working-class theatre where her uncle and sister work, Maggy and Little Dorrit arrive at Maggy's lodging to late to be admitted — everybody in the house is apparently sound asleep, and nobody responds when Amy knocks. This eventuality Little Dorrit had not foreseen, even though she had expected to be locked out of the Marshalsea. Now she and Maggy must make the best of a bad situation and spend the night out on the street, waiting out the five hours before the prison gates open at daybreak. After crossing London Bridge and returning, they notice lights on in the church nearby. The kindly sexton, recalling Amy as appearing in the church's birth registry, offers to let her sleep the few remaining hours of the night in the vestry.

Little Dorrit's Party
Chapter 14
Phiz
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No day yet in the sky, but there was day in the resounding stones of the streets; in the waggons, carts, and coaches; in the workers going to various occupations; in the opening of early shops; in the traffic at markets; in the stir of the riverside. There was coming day in the flaring lights, with a feebler colour in them than they would have had at another time; coming day in the increased sharpness of the air, and the ghastly dying of the night.
They went back again to the gate, intending to wait there now until it should be opened; but the air was so raw and cold that Little Dorrit, leading Maggy about in her sleep, kept in motion. Going round by the Church, she saw lights there, and the door open; and went up the steps and looked in. . . .
This was Little Dorrit's party. The shame, desertion, wretchedness, and exposure of the great capital; the wet, the cold, the slow hours, and the swift clouds of the dismal night. This was the party from which Little Dorrit went home, jaded, in the first grey mist of a rainy morning. — Book the First, "Poverty," Chapter 14.
Commentary:
"Little Dorrit's Party" is really Phiz's only chance (apart from the cover and the final pair of etchings) to make direct social and thematic comment, but another dark plate, "Visitors at the Works" (Bk 1, ch. 23), imparts a certain Kafkaesque quality to the novel.
The picture offers an interesting fusion of the architectural and the pathetic, with Maggy and Little Dorrit locked out of a dilapidated edifice which is also a decaying social institution, the debtors' prison. Phiz subordinates the female characters, the focal point of the nightmarish adventure like something out of French illustrator Gustav Doré's night scenes of Victorian London to focus on two buildings from earlier eras: the crumbling and ruinous eighteenth-century prison with its tattered flag in the foreground and the Gothic style Church of St. George the Martyr in the background. Although the debtors' prison as a social institution dates from the middle ages, it was at its zenith in the eighteenth century, when over half of all inmates of English prisons were in fact incarcerated in such places. Dickens's own father, John, a clerk in the Naval Pay Office, was sent to the Marshalsea on 20 February 1824 for an unpaid baker's bill. That year when the future novelist was just twelve was seared into the boy's mind by his own servitude at Warren's Blacking Factory at Hungerford Stairs on the Thames. Dickens that year worked most of the week without seeing his family, lodging not in the Marshalsea like Amy, but in Lant Street.
The title of the fourteenth chapter in Book the First, like that of the complementary illustration, is situationally ironic as Amy's spending the first night of her life outside the Marshalsea, sleeping in the streets and wandering a deserted London Bridge with Maggy, is anything but a party. The night proves Kafkaesque as strange street-people accost the pair, and Amy sees the night side of London, defamiliarizing her notion of the metropolis as a safe and civilized place. Likewise, in his next novel — the last that Phiz would illustrate for Charles Dickens (as much a "Child of the Marshalsea" as Amy Dorrit) — Lucie Manette discovers the night side of another European metropolis in which the normal polity of day and of reasonable civic organization has utterly broken down. At least in the nightside of Little Dorrit compassion and fairness form part of the code of the streets and sheer social Darwinism does not reign.

Little Dorrit and Maggy find shelter in the vestry
Chapter 14, Book 1
Harry Furniss
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"We have often seen each other," said Little Dorrit, recognising the sexton, or the beadle, or the verger, or whatever he was, "when I have been at church here."
"More than that, we've got your birth in our Register, you know; you're one of our curiosities."
"Indeed!" said Little Dorrit.
"To be sure. As the child of the — by-the-bye, how did you get out so early?"
"We were shut out last night, and are waiting to get in."
"You don't mean it? And there's another hour good yet! Come into the vestry. You’ll find a fire in the vestry, on account of the painters. I’m waiting for the painters, or I shouldn't be here, you may depend upon it. One of our curiosities mustn't be cold when we have it in our power to warm her up comfortable. Come along."
He was a very good old fellow, in his familiar way; and having stirred the vestry fire, he looked round the shelves of registers for a particular volume. "Here you are, you see," he said, taking it down and turning the leaves. "Here you'll find yourself, as large as life. Amy, daughter of William and Fanny Dorrit. Born, Marshalsea Prison, Parish of St George. And we tell people that you have lived there, without so much as a day's or a night's absence, ever since. Is it true?"
"Quite true, till last night."
"Lord!" But his surveying her with an admiring gaze suggested Something else to him, to wit: "I am sorry to see, though, that you are faint and tired. Stay a bit. I’ll get some cushions out of the church, and you and your friend shall lie down before the fire. Don't be afraid of not going in to join your father when the gate opens. I'll call you."
He brought in the cushions [for Little Dorrit and her friend to rest on.]
Commentary:
After a night at the theatre in company with Maggy, Little Dorrit visits Arthur Clennam in his rooms overlooking Covent Garden to thank him for arranging her brother Tip's release from the Marshalsea. In consequence, the pair find themselves too late to be admitted to Maggy's lodging house, and must spend the night in the streets.
Fin-de-siécle illustrator Harry Furniss's interpretation of Amy's experience of being locked out of the Marshalsea and having to spend the night on the street after her plan for staying in Maggy's lodgings falls through. The lithograph from the Charles Dickens Library Edition, 1910, reinterprets the original serial illustration, Little Dorrit's Party in Dickens's Little Dorrit. The pen-and-ink sketch occurs facing page 193 in Chapter 15, but the passage illustrated occurs nine pages earlier, forcing the reader to return to the previous chapter and re-read its fortunate conclusion, in which the kindly sexton of St. George's admits Amy and Maggy to the vestry and fetches them cushions from the church nave.
The artist, aware that readers are likely to familiar with Phiz's interpretation of the pair being shut out of the Marshalsea — Little Dorrit's Party, does not attempt to replicate Phiz's architectural handling of the exterior night scene. Rather, Furniss reduces the interior scene which follows the night's adventures to the bare essentials: the old sexton, who is offering Maggy and Little Dorrit pillows. Furniss focuses on Amy by depicting her examining the register of births while he has merely sketched in the interior Gothic architectural elements of arch and pilaster. While Maggy in her gigantic bonnet seems somewhat stupefied, staring blankly ahead of her, the alert Amy turns away to examine the register.

The gate was so familiar, and so like a companion, that they put down Maggy's basket in a corner to serve for a seat.
Chapter 14, Book 1
James Mahoney
Text Illustrated:
It was a chill dark night, with a damp wind blowing, when they came out into the leading street again, and heard the clocks strike half-past one. "In only five hours and a half," said Little Dorrit, "we shall be able to go home." To speak of home, and to go and look at it, it being so near, was a natural sequence. They went to the closed gate, and peeped through into the court-yard. "I hope he is sound asleep," said Little Dorrit, kissing one of the bars, "and does not miss me."
The gate was so familiar, and so like a companion, that they put down Maggy's basket in a corner to serve for a seat, and keeping close together, rested there for some time. While the street was empty and silent, Little Dorrit was not afraid; but when she heard a footstep at a distance, or saw a moving shadow among the street lamps, she was startled, and whispered, "Maggy, I see some one. Come away!" Maggy would then wake up more or less fretfully, and they would wander about a little, and come back again. — Book the First, "Poverty," Chapter 14.
Commentary:
Other illustrators have focused on this pathetic event, showing Little Dorrit's plight, but have failed to communicate Amy's terror of the night side of familiar things in the streets of London and the Borough. Mahoney's illustration, however, conveys a sense of Amy's feeling of being excluded, and her compassion for Maggy as she keeps a protective hand on her back. Locked out of the Marshalsea after visiting Fanny at the theatre and then Arthur Clennam in his rooms near Covent Garden, Little Dorrit has to spend the night outside those grim walls for the first time in her life. At least, she has the formidable-looking Maggy (also locked out of her rooms) as her companion and protector in the wee hours. The stone pillars to either side of the door with the small grate imply the stoutness of the prison walls that have kept out these sordid realities for Amy's entire life.
The original serial illustration, Little Dorrit's Party focuses on the Church of St. George, opposite the main gate of the Marshalsea. Instead, Mahoney shows the young women barred from entering the Marshalsea, but offers no specific landmarks to contextualize their poses. However, the caption in the New York edition of the volume certainly identified the specific moment realized:
They went to the closed gate, and peeped through into the courtyard. "I hope he is sound asleep," said Little Dorrit, kissing one of the bars, "and does not miss me." The gate was so familiar, and so like a companion, that they put down Maggy's basket in a corner to serve for a seat, and keeping close together, rested there for some time — Book 1, chap. xiv.
The title of the fourteenth chapter in Book the First, like that of the complementary illustration by Phiz in the serial (Little Dorrit's Party), is situationally ironic as Amy's spending the first night of her life outside the Marshalsea, sleeping in the streets and wandering a deserted London Bridge with Maggy, is anything but "a party." Although Mahoney has illumined the illustration, throwing Amy and Maggy into moderate chiaroscuro created by the left-hand pillar, in the other significant illustration of the episode, that by Phiz, only the fringe of cloud above the small figures cowering in the left-hand bottom corner is tinged with reflected moonlight — the rest of the serial illustration is in deep shadow and therefore constitutes a dark plate. Consequently, placed beside the serial original, Mahoney's does not merely lack the architectural specifics of the church and the imposing front of the debtors' prison, it emphasizes the close relationship of the sleepers. Amy, too, here sleeps, whereas in the Phiz dark plate she is alert and watching over the sleeping Maggy, identified by her oversized bonnet. The pair in the 1873 illustration are as destitute and homeless as any of the figures in Doré's London engravings of the urban poor. However, although one might classify the Mahoney illustration as both "social realism" and "melodramatic," it is certainly not a a dark plate in the sense that Phiz's original serial illustration is. Indeed, a more apt comparison would be between this 1873 Mahoney illustration and Luke Fildes' 1869 illustration from The Graphic Houseless and Hungry.

Little Dorrit and Maggy
Chapter 14, Book 1
Sol Eytinge Jr.
Commentary:
In the fifth illustration, Eytinge depicts the physically imposing but mentally child-like Maggy and her friend and antithesis, the diminutive but highly intelligent Amy Dorrit. Thus, the illustration reifies the physical archetypes of folklore, the powerful but slow-witted giant and the small but quick-witted protagonist; however, here they are companions rather than adversaries. Locked out of the Marshalsea Debtors' Prison, Borough High Street, Southwark, Maggy and her guide wander the streets of London, waiting for the prison gates to open at seven in the morning. Crossing London Bridge and going eastward, they presumably turn back before reaching Westminster, whose twin-towered Abbey Eytinge has placed in the background, even though Dickens nowhere mentions this significant architectural landmark:
Though everywhere the leader and the guide, Little Dorrit, happy for once in her youthful appearance, feigned to cling to and rely upon Maggy. And more than once some voice, from among a knot of brawling or prowling figures in their path, had called out to the rest, to "let the woman and the child go by!" [Chapter 14, "Little Dorrit's Party,"]
In composing the tiny figure of Little Dorrit, Eytinge utilized a much earlier passage in which Dickens described her as a woman of twenty-two whom one might easily pass in the street and take her for little more than half that age. Not that her face was very youthful, for in truth there was more consideration and care in it than naturally belonged to her utmost years; but she was so little and light, so noiseless and shy. . . . [Chapter 5].
Another one of those curiously inverted Dickensian characters, one who appears to be a full-grown woman but whose mental development has in fact been arrested, is Maggy, granddaughter of Marshalsea debtor Mrs. Bangham. Amy's friend and companion, whom many take for Amy's mother as they wander London's streets that night, is a mentally challenged twenty-eight-year-old who regards herself, despite her height, as being a mere girl of ten, and therefore in constant need of the direction of her "Little Mother," Amy Dorrit. Again, Eytinge utilizes a passage much earlier in the novel to compose the figure who is never without her capacious basket:
She was about eight-and-twenty, with large bones, large features, large feet and hands, large eyes and no hair. Her large eyes were limpid and almost colourless; they seemed to be very little affected by light, and to stand unnaturally still. There was also that attentive listening expression in her face, which is seen in the faces of the blind; but she was not blind, having one tolerably serviceable eye. Her face was not exceedingly ugly, though it was only redeemed from being so by a smile; a good-humoured smile, and pleasant in itself, but rendered pitiable by being constantly there. A great white cap, with a quantity of opaque frilling that was always flapping about, apologised for Maggy's baldness, and made it so very difficult for her old black bonnet to retain its place upon her head, that it held on round her neck like a gipsy's baby. A commission of haberdashers could alone have reported what the rest of her poor dress was made of, but it had a strong general resemblance to seaweed, with here and there a gigantic tea-leaf. Her shawl looked particularly like a tea-leaf after long infusion.
Eytinge contrasts not merely the size of the figures' feet, but the watchful look in Amy's eyes with the look of open gullibility on Maggy's face. However, despite the shadowy figure in middle background, he does not suggest any apprehensiveness in Amy's features, although this is the first night of her life spent outside the protective walls of the Marshalsea.
Kim wrote: "
Original version
Manchester version
Later St. Paul's version
The Light of the World
Holman Hunt
The Light of the World (1851–1853) is an allegorical painting by the English Pre-Raphaeli..."
Kim
Thank you for posting the Holman Hunt picture. There is so much going on in it so I’m happy you included a commentary. The novel has so many references to doors and this pic keeps popping into my head.
As far as I know there is no proof that Dickens ever saw this picture prior to writing Little Dorrit or ever referred to it after. Holman Hunt did object to a piece in Household Words years later that he thought referred to him and there are letters from Dickens where he apologizes to Hunt. They were never “best of friends.”
Original version
Manchester version
Later St. Paul's version
The Light of the World
Holman Hunt
The Light of the World (1851–1853) is an allegorical painting by the English Pre-Raphaeli..."
Kim
Thank you for posting the Holman Hunt picture. There is so much going on in it so I’m happy you included a commentary. The novel has so many references to doors and this pic keeps popping into my head.
As far as I know there is no proof that Dickens ever saw this picture prior to writing Little Dorrit or ever referred to it after. Holman Hunt did object to a piece in Household Words years later that he thought referred to him and there are letters from Dickens where he apologizes to Hunt. They were never “best of friends.”
re: Arthur and Amy as enablers -
Arthur Clennam strikes me as a very interesting Dickens character in that he is psychologically credible. He is not at all cynical because if he were, he would have taken his own disappointments in life and the examples of hardness and selfishness he might have seen in his mother (and his father) but especially in Mr. Flintwinch - to whom he does not have to feel indebted because of parental links -as a justification of taking on a harder, scornful attitude towards society and people as such. Had I been in his shoes, I would definitely haven sought recourse in bitterness and scorn and started writing satires like Jonathan Swift or a Devil's Dictionary like Ambrose Bierce. At the same time, however, Arthur Clennum is far from flawless because he still regards himself as some kind of victim of his mother's ways, and there is some cheap comfort in victimhood. One may see it as noble in him that he takes so much interest in the Dorrits - on the vague idea that somehow his own family might have wronged them - but I am inclined to put forth a less merciful interpretation: Feeling unable to help himself (because this would have meant standing up to his mother), Arthur tries to redeem himself by helping the Dorrits, and so whatever he does for them, he also does for himself in a way. He is also very aimless at the moment, and so by riding as a knight in shiny white armour in front of Amy, he can pretend to himself that his life is actually serving a purpose.
As to Amy, I find her wholly annoying, because her idea of submitting her entire life to serving her family is quite wrong in that it confirms the family members in their wrong ways - I am mainly talking of the feckless brother and the pathetic, whiney father here, but also of her sister, who comes over as somewhat spoilt and careless to me. Quite clearly, Amy is living a lie, even though this is a lie of compassion and charity.Nevertheless, charity begins at home - and a person who really wants to do some good in the world should start by doing good to themselves first and then do good to others without making themselves a pawn to those others. Can it be that in her heart of hearts, Amy is afraid of leaving the Marshalsea and exchanging it for the real world outside? It is comparatively easy to sacrifice her own claims to life on behalf of her father and calling this parental duty - but it would be more difficult, although more beneficial in the long run, to find her own place in life and become a useful member of society and in her own family. Apart from being the usual Dickensian female heroine, self-denying, self-sacrificing and syrupy, Little Dorrit is also a prisoner of her own timidity and - strange as it may seem - laziness.
Just my two cents about those two "helpers".
Arthur Clennam strikes me as a very interesting Dickens character in that he is psychologically credible. He is not at all cynical because if he were, he would have taken his own disappointments in life and the examples of hardness and selfishness he might have seen in his mother (and his father) but especially in Mr. Flintwinch - to whom he does not have to feel indebted because of parental links -as a justification of taking on a harder, scornful attitude towards society and people as such. Had I been in his shoes, I would definitely haven sought recourse in bitterness and scorn and started writing satires like Jonathan Swift or a Devil's Dictionary like Ambrose Bierce. At the same time, however, Arthur Clennum is far from flawless because he still regards himself as some kind of victim of his mother's ways, and there is some cheap comfort in victimhood. One may see it as noble in him that he takes so much interest in the Dorrits - on the vague idea that somehow his own family might have wronged them - but I am inclined to put forth a less merciful interpretation: Feeling unable to help himself (because this would have meant standing up to his mother), Arthur tries to redeem himself by helping the Dorrits, and so whatever he does for them, he also does for himself in a way. He is also very aimless at the moment, and so by riding as a knight in shiny white armour in front of Amy, he can pretend to himself that his life is actually serving a purpose.
As to Amy, I find her wholly annoying, because her idea of submitting her entire life to serving her family is quite wrong in that it confirms the family members in their wrong ways - I am mainly talking of the feckless brother and the pathetic, whiney father here, but also of her sister, who comes over as somewhat spoilt and careless to me. Quite clearly, Amy is living a lie, even though this is a lie of compassion and charity.Nevertheless, charity begins at home - and a person who really wants to do some good in the world should start by doing good to themselves first and then do good to others without making themselves a pawn to those others. Can it be that in her heart of hearts, Amy is afraid of leaving the Marshalsea and exchanging it for the real world outside? It is comparatively easy to sacrifice her own claims to life on behalf of her father and calling this parental duty - but it would be more difficult, although more beneficial in the long run, to find her own place in life and become a useful member of society and in her own family. Apart from being the usual Dickensian female heroine, self-denying, self-sacrificing and syrupy, Little Dorrit is also a prisoner of her own timidity and - strange as it may seem - laziness.
Just my two cents about those two "helpers".
I am definitely a fan of Flora's (and of Mr. F.'s aunt's) and I think that our narrator utterly wrongs her: When her romance with Arthur was brought to a sudden end, she was given in marriage to a man she might not have loved at all, and now that she is a widow, she has to look after the old lady, which she does with her genuine good-heartedness. Can you really blame her for becoming chatty and for indulging in her old Arthur-related sentiments when her home life must have been quite dreary and oppressive all those years? Many another woman might have grown into a cantankerous shrew under these circumstances, but all she has turned into is a slightly enervating chatterbox. She could have been much worse!
Tristram wrote: "As to Amy, I find her wholly annoying, because her idea of submitting her entire life to serving her family is quite wrong in that it confirms the family members in their wrong ways .."
True. I agree with your entire paragraph for once. She's just too much for me. Little Nell annoyed me doing everything for her grandfather without one complaint, unless you count the time she made him leave in the middle of the night to stop him from gambling, but Amy does everything without complaint for her entire family. I just can't take it, say no once in a while. Oh, I almost forgot, poor, poor Little Dorrit, and anyone around this family.
True. I agree with your entire paragraph for once. She's just too much for me. Little Nell annoyed me doing everything for her grandfather without one complaint, unless you count the time she made him leave in the middle of the night to stop him from gambling, but Amy does everything without complaint for her entire family. I just can't take it, say no once in a while. Oh, I almost forgot, poor, poor Little Dorrit, and anyone around this family.

I do think Amy did not realise how dangerous being in the streets would be - it was her first night not in the Marshalsea prison after all. Although I wondered the same, why would she do this? Staying with Arthur would probably not have been an option either, her coming there was strange enough to get some tongues wagging as it is probably, but why would she go to the theater then?
Indeed, both of their judgements are very poor. I think we see what in Dungeons and Dragons would be the difference between intelligence and wisdom - they are both smart in their own way, but have a hard time to adapt to things or realise their actions can have consequences.
Indeed, both of their judgements are very poor. I think we see what in Dungeons and Dragons would be the difference between intelligence and wisdom - they are both smart in their own way, but have a hard time to adapt to things or realise their actions can have consequences.
Kim wrote: "
The gate was so familiar, and so like a companion, that they put down Maggy's basket in a corner to serve for a seat.
Chapter 14, Book 1
James Mahoney
Text Illustrated:
It was a chill dark ni..."
Kim
Thank you for posting this great illustration. The massive stone frame of the heavy Marshalsea door suggests how heavy Amy’s isolation is. We see Amy being very protective of Maggy. Are we supposed to see Amy as being too protective, too enabling, too naive to the ways of the world or are we to see an uncommon person who actually cares for other people? Do we consider the Barnacles, Casby, Pancks, Arthur’s mother, and Flintwinch more believable?
Consider that across the street from the Marshalsea where the door is firmly closed, Amy finds the church door open. In this church Amy finds a place to rest and sleep. Dickens tells us that this is the church where Amy was baptized. In this chapter Amy rests her head on the book that registers one’s death. Why would Dickens point out these facts about books and doors?
My thought is the fact that Dickens has one more step to build upon concerning Amy’s life with the Marshalsea and the church. Now, a church is the place where one has their birth and their death registered. There is one one other time a person signs a register at a church. What could Dickens be telegraphing here?
The gate was so familiar, and so like a companion, that they put down Maggy's basket in a corner to serve for a seat.
Chapter 14, Book 1
James Mahoney
Text Illustrated:
It was a chill dark ni..."
Kim
Thank you for posting this great illustration. The massive stone frame of the heavy Marshalsea door suggests how heavy Amy’s isolation is. We see Amy being very protective of Maggy. Are we supposed to see Amy as being too protective, too enabling, too naive to the ways of the world or are we to see an uncommon person who actually cares for other people? Do we consider the Barnacles, Casby, Pancks, Arthur’s mother, and Flintwinch more believable?
Consider that across the street from the Marshalsea where the door is firmly closed, Amy finds the church door open. In this church Amy finds a place to rest and sleep. Dickens tells us that this is the church where Amy was baptized. In this chapter Amy rests her head on the book that registers one’s death. Why would Dickens point out these facts about books and doors?
My thought is the fact that Dickens has one more step to build upon concerning Amy’s life with the Marshalsea and the church. Now, a church is the place where one has their birth and their death registered. There is one one other time a person signs a register at a church. What could Dickens be telegraphing here?

There is either marriage or death at the end of a decent hero or heroine's road, isn't there, my friends? Except, maybe, if we are talking about a knight errant or a western hero or a hobbit, all of whom are generally granted the mercy of bachelordom ;-)
Considering that there is a "lock" in "wedlock" and that this rhymes with "deadlock", I would not hesitate on which of the two options I'd bet my money with regard to Amy.
Considering that there is a "lock" in "wedlock" and that this rhymes with "deadlock", I would not hesitate on which of the two options I'd bet my money with regard to Amy.
Kim wrote: "Tristram wrote: "As to Amy, I find her wholly annoying, because her idea of submitting her entire life to serving her family is quite wrong in that it confirms the family members in their wrong way..."
Ah, you just admitted that you do not like Little Nell too much! ;-)
As to Little Dorrit and Little Arthur's not helping other people really but encouraging them to go on in their dysfunctional behaviour, I think that unbeknownst to them, their primary intention is not so much to help others but to give a good feeling to themselves. So, if their actions contributed to other people mending their ways and coming towards self-empowerment, they would lose their opportunity to "help", wouldn't they?
Ah, you just admitted that you do not like Little Nell too much! ;-)
As to Little Dorrit and Little Arthur's not helping other people really but encouraging them to go on in their dysfunctional behaviour, I think that unbeknownst to them, their primary intention is not so much to help others but to give a good feeling to themselves. So, if their actions contributed to other people mending their ways and coming towards self-empowerment, they would lose their opportunity to "help", wouldn't they?

This is a good point and I am now firmly on Flora's side in all matters moving forward.

ugh ugh ugh ugh ugh
so much pointless virtue under one roof

I'd say on the contrary I think the sister is doing what I wish Amy would do: take the opportunities available to her and go out and get a job and stay in touch with the family but not let them dominate her entire life.
I guess she does let Amy do her laundry for her but somebody has to do it and I don't expect an actress has a lot of extra income for such things. I will also admit the sister could take the same level of interest in Amy's well-being that Amy has taken in hers, but maybe she's judged Amy as a lost cause. At this point, Amy appears to be as opposed to getting out of her own imprisonment as her father is to getting out of his.
Tristram wrote: "Kim wrote: "Tristram wrote: "As to Amy, I find her wholly annoying, because her idea of submitting her entire life to serving her family is quite wrong in that it confirms the family members in the..."
Tristram
A very interesting take on one way to view A&A. The idea of doing acts so that one can feel better yourself takes on many directions. Someone earlier mentioned Mrs Pardiggle. We also have Mrs Jellyby but these two women’s actions are far different than Amy’s actions.
Once again we see the breadth of possibilities characters present in the novels of Dickens. I still wrestle with my feelings towards Amy but see her altruism as much more admirable than Pardiggle and Jellyby.
Tristram
A very interesting take on one way to view A&A. The idea of doing acts so that one can feel better yourself takes on many directions. Someone earlier mentioned Mrs Pardiggle. We also have Mrs Jellyby but these two women’s actions are far different than Amy’s actions.
Once again we see the breadth of possibilities characters present in the novels of Dickens. I still wrestle with my feelings towards Amy but see her altruism as much more admirable than Pardiggle and Jellyby.
Julie wrote: "Tristram wrote: "I am definitely a fan of Flora's (and of Mr. F.'s aunt's) and I think that our narrator utterly wrongs her: When her romance with Arthur was brought to a sudden end, she was given ..."
Yes. Flora and the aunt are welcome and fun-quirky people who inhabit an otherwise rather depressing novel so far. I hope we get to see them again.
Yes. Flora and the aunt are welcome and fun-quirky people who inhabit an otherwise rather depressing novel so far. I hope we get to see them again.

Julie wrote: "Tristram wrote: "I am definitely a fan of Flora's (and of Mr. F.'s aunt's) and I think that our narrator utterly wrongs her: When her romance with Arthur was brought to a sudden end, she was given ..."
You'll not be alone, Julie!
You'll not be alone, Julie!
Julie wrote: "Tristram wrote: "I am mainly talking of the feckless brother and the pathetic, whiney father here, but also of her sister, who comes over as somewhat spoilt and careless to me."
I'd say on the con..."
I absolutely agree with you, Julie. My distrust against Fanny is based on one little scene - the one where she rebukes her uncle for some minor oversight, and there she seems to be giving herself some airs - unlike Amy, who does not even give herself some air in the singular.
I'd say on the con..."
I absolutely agree with you, Julie. My distrust against Fanny is based on one little scene - the one where she rebukes her uncle for some minor oversight, and there she seems to be giving herself some airs - unlike Amy, who does not even give herself some air in the singular.
Peter wrote: "I still wrestle with my feelings towards Amy but see her altruism as much more admirable than Pardiggle and Jellyby."
I think that Dickens, who was doubtless strongly opposed to the "telescopic philanthropy" of Pardiggle and Jellyby and therefore made figures of satirical fun of the two ladies, was not opposed to Amy at all. On the contrary, he might have been so full of admiration for Amy's self-denial that he failed to see the psychological motivation behind it.
I think that Dickens, who was doubtless strongly opposed to the "telescopic philanthropy" of Pardiggle and Jellyby and therefore made figures of satirical fun of the two ladies, was not opposed to Amy at all. On the contrary, he might have been so full of admiration for Amy's self-denial that he failed to see the psychological motivation behind it.
Peacejanz wrote: "Folks, there is some research within the last 30-40 years that shows altruism makes us feel good and live more happily. There is also some research showing that those seeing some altruism will perh..."
I know what you mean, Janz. Whenever I empty the dishwasher at home, I keep telling people inside and outside the household how strenuous it was but how much satisfaction I derived from sparing my children or my wife this onerous duty. The other day, I let some motorist into the queue of cars before me, and for the rest of the journey I told my son that it is a pleasure to do good to other people but that I don't want him to make much of my doing it. In fact, I told him, if he wanted to tell this story of my altruistic act to his friends or the headteacher of his school, I couldn't really help it but I would not like the idea too much because I had only done my duty as a fellow-human-being. After ten minutes of my talk about what I had rather not talk about my son asked me if he could take the bus next morning but I reassured him that I would not mind taking a little deroute for him because Little Dorrit would have done the same. He did not know who Little Dorrit was, however, but I clearly noticed that my altruism and the modesty accompanying it had moved him greatly.
I know what you mean, Janz. Whenever I empty the dishwasher at home, I keep telling people inside and outside the household how strenuous it was but how much satisfaction I derived from sparing my children or my wife this onerous duty. The other day, I let some motorist into the queue of cars before me, and for the rest of the journey I told my son that it is a pleasure to do good to other people but that I don't want him to make much of my doing it. In fact, I told him, if he wanted to tell this story of my altruistic act to his friends or the headteacher of his school, I couldn't really help it but I would not like the idea too much because I had only done my duty as a fellow-human-being. After ten minutes of my talk about what I had rather not talk about my son asked me if he could take the bus next morning but I reassured him that I would not mind taking a little deroute for him because Little Dorrit would have done the same. He did not know who Little Dorrit was, however, but I clearly noticed that my altruism and the modesty accompanying it had moved him greatly.
Bleeding Heart Yard
“There was people of pretty well all sorts of trades you could name, all wanting to work, and not yet able to get it. There was old people, after working all their lives, going and being shut up in the workhouse, much worse fed and lodged and treated altogether.”
Bleeding Heart Yard was a place where the poor lived. Its name makes me wonder if Dickens might mean more than the simple words state. Whose hearts might be bleeding? Could it be the hearts of all the people who live there? What we do now is the factory of Daniel Doyce is located there. Arthur goes to Bleeding Heart Yard with Daniel Doyce and Mr. Meagles in search of the Plornish house where Arthur hopes he can find more information about Little Dorrit. First, we learn that Plornish and his wife are well acquainted with Little Dorrit. We learn that Amy came one afternoon and asked if they could help her get a job doing needlework. Amy wanted to use their address because she could not use the address of the jail. One of Amy’s advertisements found its way to the landlord of the Yard, a man by the name of Mr. Casby. It was Casby who contacted Mrs. Clennam. Thus Arthur learns how Amy began to work for Mrs. Clennam. In a typical Dickensian coincidence, Arthur knows Mr. Casby as a long ago acquaintance. We also learn that a man by the name of Pancks collects the rents for Casby. It seems to me that one of the main functions of this chapter is to fill in some of the blanks of the plot that have been accumulating in the reader’s mind.
A second reason Arthur has sought Mr. Plornish is to have him be “the instrument of effecting Tip’s release” from his debts. Here again we see the kindness of Arthur. It is Arthur’s wish that his generosity remains a secret. Further, Arthur asks Plornish to freely communicate with him if there is anything “useful to Little Dorrit.” Arthur’s tasks are now complete and he gives Plornish his card “and appropriate pecuniary complement.”
Arthur’s visit to Bleeding Heart Yard has made him much more aware of how the poor live. Dickens writes about the Yard that “there was people of pretty well all sorts of trades you could name, all wanting to work, and yet not able to get it. There was old people, after working all their lives, going and being shut up in the work house, much worse fed and lodged and treated altogether.” Dickens continues, “Mr. Plornish did not know who was to blame for it. He could tell you who suffered, but he couldn’t tell you whose fault it was. It wasn’t his place to find out, and who’d mind what he said, if he did find out? He only know’d that it wasn’t put together by them what undertook that line of business, and that it didn’t come right of itself. “
As the chapter ends Dickens makes a reference to the Circumlocution Office. Here, Dickens tells us who is responsible for the poverty in Bleeding Heart Yard but does not tell the reader what to think. Nevertheless, it seems that slowly but surely the Barnacles are well named and the Circumlocution Office is also aptly named. Those who live in TheYard want to work but are unable because of their position in society. On the other hand, the Barnacles of the Circumlocution Office work very hard to do nothing.
There is much in this novel yet to be revealed.
Thoughts
Having read the chapter what might be other ways we could interpret the title Bleeding Heart Yard?
To what extent do you find Dickens’s juxtaposition of the Yard and the Circumlocution Office to be effectively done so far in the novel?
We again see the kindness of Arthur. To what extent do you think he is too kind, too generous, too eager to please? To what extent might Dickens be creating in Arthur a character who is too good to be believable?
Arthur acts as an anonymous benefactor to Tip. What might Arthur’s ulterior motive be in his actions?