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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Acquired a set of old Signet Classics Shakespeare plays, so I'm reading or re-reading them. Finished Richard II, which I hadn't read before (the Signet version is not on Goodreads). Not my favorite. There's some crime in there, including a mystery (who actually killed the Duke of Gloucester prior to the start of the play?), some traitorous actions, and a final murder-for-hire. Got five more ready to be read.


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Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments K.A. wrote: "Acquired a set of old Signet Classics Shakespeare plays, so I'm reading or re-reading them. Finished Richard II, which I hadn't read before (the Signet version is not on Goodreads). Not my favorite..."

I give you a lot of credit for this endeavor.
I have trouble reading plays, though I love Shakespeare in small doses.


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments It is difficult to read plays, for sure. You don't get the descriptive settings or the action sequences you do in a novel or history, and you just have to accept that a ton of stuff you can't even imagine has happened off-page. It's certainly better to actually see the play. But I've got 'em, so I'm going to read 'em. Some of them are repeats for me, but Richard II was new.


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Fishface | 18925 comments I have never tried to tackle that much Shakespeare at once. Let us know how it goes.


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Fishface | 18925 comments I just stumbled across another book about her, so Anna Mae Aquash now has her own shelf.


message 7: by K.A. (last edited Jan 20, 2022 09:03AM) (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Fishface wrote: "I just stumbled across another book about her, so Anna Mae Aquash now has her own shelf."

Hmm, don't know her. Finished Measure for Measure (Shakespeare); it was fairly awful with unlikeable characters. Now re-reading A Farewell to Arms, which I read as a teen in high school & hated. thought I might give it another go 40+ years later. It's still bad. It would be all right if it was just the descriptions of the war and the Austrian-Italian front, but the conversations with Catherine Barkley are sooo tedious and awful. She's a boring plaything for an alcoholic. Hopefully everybody will get killed off soon (I'm a little more than halfway through.)


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Fishface | 18925 comments K.A. wrote: "Now re-reading A Farewell to Arms, which I read as a teen in high school & hated. thought I might give it another go 40+ years later. It's still bad. It would be all right if it was just the descriptions of the war and the Austrian-Italian front, but the conversations with Catherine Barkley are sooo tedious and awful. She's a boring plaything for an alcoholic. Hopefully everybody will get killed off soon (I'm a little more than halfway through.)"

I hated, hated, HATED that book.


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Well, I have a little bit better opinion now than I did as a teen, but it still ranks pretty low. It would actually be a decent book if it stuck to descriptions of the Italian-Austrian front and the philosophical war opinions various characters drop in to espouse. I can even attribute the detached writing style to the tone of an individual suffering from PTSD, even though it isn't my favorite style. Unfortunately, it was all but ruined by the insipid Catherine Barkley, personality-less, groveling, gushing, and gooey. Towards the end I just skipped pages of the tedious run-on pillow-talk ("Aren't I a good girl? I am so silly. I'll be a good girl. Do you love me? Say you love me." ewewewewew)

I did look up some of the battle information and tracked the escape to Switzerland on a map, so that was interesting, but overall, I think I'll go read King Lear to wash Hemingway out of my brain.


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Fishface | 18925 comments K.A. wrote: "...but overall, I think I'll go read King Lear to wash Hemingway out of my brain."

I feel this way about Hemingway no matter what I've tried to read by him.


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments This is true.


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Lady ♥ Belleza (bella_foxx) | 3712 comments Mod
Fishface wrote: "K.A. wrote: "...but overall, I think I'll go read King Lear to wash Hemingway out of my brain."

I feel this way about Hemingway no matter what I've tried to read by him."


Same


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Fishface | 18925 comments Unbelievably, we now have 50 books on the shelf reserved for children's true crime!


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Fishface | 18925 comments There is now an "Aurora Theater" shelf with 3 books on it. As always you should feel free to add any others you are aware of. Those books would also go under "Mass Murder."


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Fishface | 18925 comments Randy Woodfield and Lynching now have their own shelves.


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Fishface | 18925 comments I found a second book on him, so John Crutchley now has his own shelf.


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Fishface | 18925 comments So how iz everyone feeling about the Jan 6 investigation? Hopeful? Indignant? Puzzled? Eager? Fed up?


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Rita (crimesleuthjunkie) | 1146 comments Fishface wrote: "So how iz everyone feeling about the Jan 6 investigation? Hopeful? Indignant? Puzzled? Eager? Fed up?"

What worries me is that everyone is taking the 'Fifth' so how can anything be done?


message 19: by Fishface (last edited Jun 13, 2022 02:55PM) (new)

Fishface | 18925 comments Rita wrote: "Fishface wrote: "So how iz everyone feeling about the Jan 6 investigation? Hopeful? Indignant? Puzzled? Eager? Fed up?"

What worries me is that everyone is taking the 'Fifth' so how can anything b..."


They're using emails and text messages, and there are more than a few witnesses singing like canaries. Every time someone pleads the Fifth Amendment we know they are saying "If I say one word about this you're going to arrest me."


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Fishface | 18925 comments Article recommending new TC to read:

https://crimereads.com/the-best-nonfi...


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Rita (crimesleuthjunkie) | 1146 comments Fishface wrote: "Rita wrote: "Fishface wrote: "So how iz everyone feeling about the Jan 6 investigation? Hopeful? Indignant? Puzzled? Eager? Fed up?"

What worries me is that everyone is taking the 'Fifth' so how c..."


Well, as time goes on I hope there are more canaries singing so they can have facts to fill in this giant puzzle . Thanks Fishface for replying back. Cheers....feeling hopeful !


message 22: by Fishface (last edited May 13, 2022 05:05PM) (new)

Fishface | 18925 comments Just wanted to say I was looking up Burn, Judy, Burn to see how many pages long it was. I discovered that it's now available on Kindle! It's a good, very brief read about a little-known serial killer with really bad hair.


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Koren  (koren56) | 1604 comments Fishface wrote: "So how iz everyone feeling about the Jan 6 investigation? Hopeful? Indignant? Puzzled? Eager? Fed up?"

I would say 'discouraged' is the word. It seems to be taking so long. I know they have to have all their ducks in a row but I'm kind of tired of hearing about it and wondering if anything will ever happen.


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Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "So how iz everyone feeling about the Jan 6 investigation? Hopeful? Indignant? Puzzled? Eager? Fed up?"

I would say 'discouraged' is the word. It seems to be taking so long. I know..."


I agree. I kind of feel that as long as the Orange Turd can't be indicted and keeps stonewalling the investigation nothing definitive will be done. Except for the lower level players who are in jail no one important will be punished. They (the upper-level instigators) all have deep pockets.


message 25: by Fishface (last edited May 22, 2022 07:47PM) (new)

Fishface | 18925 comments Hari wrote: "Koren wrote: " I kind of feel that as long as the Orange Turd can't be indicted and keeps stonewalling the investigation nothing definitive will be done."

I am clinging to the hope that he CAN and WILL be indicted. One thing about Cheeto Satan, he's a sloppy poker player who shows us all his cards. It's just taking so loooooooong and the midterms are coming!


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Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments Fishface wrote: "Hari wrote: "Koren wrote: " I kind of feel that as long as the Orange Turd can't be indicted and keeps stonewalling the investigation nothing definitive will be done."

I am clinging to the hope th..."

I'm hoping too.


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Rita (crimesleuthjunkie) | 1146 comments Fishface wrote: "I have never tried to tackle that much Shakespeare at once. Let us know how it goes."

I never tried to tackle Shakespeare period! Too heavy for me!!!


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Rita wrote: "Fishface wrote: "I have never tried to tackle that much Shakespeare at once. Let us know how it goes."

I never tried to tackle Shakespeare period! Too heavy for me!!!"


I have ground to a halt partway through As You Like It, but I'm determined to finish that one and Hamlet before calling it good. I'm sensing a theme, at this point: there's a King. There's a really irritating Fool. There are some Young Folk who are in love with each other and get mixed up about it. Somebody has a soliloquy. The King dies. Erp.

Heading off to Alaska for a mini-vacay, hoping to read some Stuff on the plane to and fro. Checking shelves for interesting downloads. Checked through the True Crime Read in 2022 thread, as well.


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Fishface | 18925 comments Alaska sounds great right about now! Would a book about Bob Hansen be fitting or have you already read them all?


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Fishface wrote: "Alaska sounds great right about now! Would a book about Bob Hansen be fitting or have you already read them all?"
Recommend, recommend! I haven't read any, I don't think!


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Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?


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Fishface | 18925 comments Hari wrote: "Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?"


He's like a magnet but he attracts doofuses


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Fishface | 18925 comments K.A. wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Alaska sounds great right about now! Would a book about Bob Hansen be fitting or have you already read them all?"
Recommend, recommend! I haven't read any, I don't think!"


There's Fair Game and Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer...


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Hari wrote: "Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?"


Thanks!


message 35: by K.A. (last edited Jun 14, 2022 05:12AM) (new)

K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Fishface wrote: "Hari wrote: "Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?"

He's like a magnet but he attracts doofuses"


Magnets also repel things...


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Bill reilly | 88 comments I am a life long resident of NY and Orange #45 lost my state in 2020. Magnetic???????


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Koren  (koren56) | 1604 comments Hari wrote: "Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?"


There must be something there that hypnotizes people, kind of like Jim Jones and Charles Manson.


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Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments K.A. wrote: "Fishface wrote: "Hari wrote: "Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?"

He's like a magnet but he attracts doofuses"

Magnets also repe..."

That's what I think is behind the the opinion. Like a horrid trainwreck certain people can't look away from. Certain deranged, gullible "deplorables".


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Hari Brandl (crochetbuddies) | 649 comments Koren wrote: "Hari wrote: "Hey, folks,
I recently heard The Orange Turd's personality described as "magnetic". Agree? Disagree?"

There must be something there that hypnotizes people, kind of like Jim Jones and..."


Agree.


message 40: by Fishface (last edited Jun 14, 2022 05:48PM) (new)

Fishface | 18925 comments OK, if anyone knows the answer to this question the membership of this group will. I'm still reading A Fatal Lie: A True Story Of Betrayal And Murder In The New South, which takes place in Patricia Cornwell's hometown, and at one point the author casually tosses off the information that Cornwell was embroiled in some sort of torrid affair with an FBI agent that led to her husband going to prison for trying to hire a hit man to kill the co-respondent. Of course now I can't find the page so I may have it all wrong.

Is there a book about this!?!?


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Koren  (koren56) | 1604 comments Fishface wrote: "OK, if anyone knows the answer to this question the membership of this group will. I'm still reading A Fatal Lie: A True Story Of Betrayal And Murder In The New South, which takes pla..."

Yep! Twisted Triangle: A Famous Crime Writer, a Lesbian Love Affair, and the FBI Husband's Violent Revenge by Caitlin Rother.


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Fishface | 18925 comments Koren wrote: "Fishface wrote: "OK, if anyone knows the answer to this question the membership of this group will. I'm still reading A Fatal Lie: A True Story Of Betrayal And Murder In The New South..."


TY!!!


message 43: by Fishface (last edited Aug 03, 2022 08:08PM) (new)

Fishface | 18925 comments The Gun Violence Archive has been pretty busy this year:

https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/re...


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Fishface | 18925 comments I just heard of a book I think I need to read: The Fourth Procedure, about a surgeon who implants a pregnant uterus into an anti-choice male.


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K.A. Krisko (kakrisko) | 1297 comments Fishface wrote: "I just heard of a book I think I need to read: The Fourth Procedure, about a surgeon who implants a pregnant uterus into an anti-choice male."

LOL!


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Alex (nogoodbooks) | 6 comments K.A. wrote: "Acquired a set of old Signet Classics Shakespeare plays, so I'm reading or re-reading them. Finished Richard II, which I hadn't read before (the Signet version is not on Goodreads). Not my favorite..."

Sorry I'm late to this. You might enjoy James Thurber's short story "The Macbeth Murder Mystery" (collected several times, including in The Thurber Carnival). In it, a character considers Macbeth as a mystery novel rather than a tragic play and concludes that Macbeth was framed.


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Fishface | 18925 comments Koren wrote: "There must be something there that hypnotizes people, kind of like Jim Jones and Charles Manson."

The siren song of money?


message 48: by Fishface (last edited Aug 05, 2022 11:39AM) (new)

Fishface | 18925 comments Reading about the suffragettes in Death in Ten Minutes: Kitty Marion: Activist. Arsonist. Suffragette. has opened my eyes. I now have a shelf for them, and a couple of shelves for individual suffragettes as well. And I started one today for "Criminals' Manifestos, Etc."


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Koren  (koren56) | 1604 comments Reading James Patterson's Murder, Interrupted and the possibly the worst case of Maunchausen's by Proxy ever. It is about Gypsy-Rose Blancharde and her mother Dee Dee. I know I have either read about them or seen them on TV before. The cover says there is an ID Discovery show about them and I read on the book review page there is a Netflix documentary but does anyone know if there is a book?


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Fishface | 18925 comments Koren wrote: "Reading James Patterson's Murder, Interrupted and the possibly the worst case of Maunchausen's by Proxy ever. It is about Gypsy-Rose Blancharde and her mother Dee Dee. I know I have..."

Wait, hold up. What is Murder, Interrupted if it's not a book on that case?


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