Please update new series name

[Deborah]

Hi.

Can you please change the name of this Series:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...

To:

The Billionaire Hart Series.

It's been changed on Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08772LHBR

Thank you.

[Mantvydas]

We can't. Because it contains more books in that series than the re-released series.

Updated Lords of Gotham to match Goodreads policy: https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...

I created new series: https://www.goodreads.com/series/3293...

Also created series for Undeniably Yours: https://www.goodreads.com/series/3293...

If you can provide information on how each series is interconnected and I can add that information to the series descriptions.

[Deborah]

The Billionaire Hart Series features the Hart family billionaires. The heroes are all related.

Undeniably Yours features the Holden family billionaires.

Thank you!

I've removed Lords of Gotham from Amazon.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

The numbering is the same, so there is no reason to create a new series. Especially since they two include all the same primary books. Possibly omitting some of the non-primary books (which may in fact just not have been re-released yet, but either way) is not enough of a reason to make two otherwise parallel series.

I have edited accordingly.

[Deborah]

Hi I'm not sure what you mean "make 2 parallel series."

On Amazon I'm offering 4 books in one series and 3 books in another series.

Goodreads really should mirror Amazon. If a reader sees books in the wrong place and then tries to find them on Amazon and can't,, they'll give the books a bad review.

So can we please start by fixing this series:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...

Remove Reluctant Billionaire from the series. It's been unpublished on Amazon. It can stay on Goodreads, but it shouldn't be part of this series, since it's not part of the series on Amazon.

Here are the series books:

The Good Billionaire is Book 1, Daring the Billionaire Book 2, Bossy Book 3, Rebel Book 4.

Fiery Billionaire has been retitled to Unexpected:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B091GC9DCX

The Undeniably Yours Series includes:

Book 1
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...

This book used to be Stay With Me. But I unpublished Stay With Me and released it under a new title. Stay with Me and Accidental have 2 different ASINs and shouldn't be combined on Goodreads.

Perhaps a reader combined them because they are the same book? I state in my Amazon description, previously titled, Stay with Me.

Book 2
Unexpected- Which was retitled from Fiery. That DOES have the same ASIN. So you can make that change to the Fiery Book:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...

This book is now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09...

Book 3 in that series is:

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/5...

It looks like the same thing happened here. Convenient was Reluctant Billionaire. But I unpublished it and published a new Book with a different ASIN.

I guess if you want to keep Reluctant Billionaire and Stay with Me as 'editions' under the new books, that fine. But remove RB from The Billionaire Hart Series. And remove Stay with Me from the Mallory Family Series:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/3072...

Which is no longer an active series on Amazon either.

This series is also no longer active on Amazon:

https://www.goodreads.com/series/2876...

As I move things around on Amazon, I'm very diligent about notifying Goodreads about the changes. I don't know how all these books got combined and put into incorrect series.

I hate to make you undo all this, but I've already seen 1 star ratings across several of my books and I'm wondering if it's because they are not easily found on Goodreads.

If you have another suggestion to fix this, I'm all ears.

I wonder if it makes sense to delete all the series affected and start over?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

There were two different series for the same books. There are not any longer.

Note: No longer being an active series on Amazon is not relevant for Goodreads purposes, unless it has been replaced by another series with the same books. We also do not remove books from a series, even if that series has been renamed.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Other things to keep in mind: A book that has been edited and released under a new name (and/or ISBN/ASIN) would be considered an edition of the original work on Goodreads. As the author, you have the ability to change which edition of the book is the default, which will show on your author profile. Here's how: https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/3...

[Deborah]

Hi.

So, if Reluctant Billionaire is now Convenient (different ASIN) and part of a new series, it has to stay in the original series, even if it's not for sale anymore?

And you won't create the new series? You're keeping the books in their old/original series?

Do I need to update the description of all the unpublished books to make this known?

I feel this is very confusing to readers.

I have another thread asking all the covers be updated, but no one's responded to that request at all.

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Additional series can be added if they have different books or different numbering. I edited the existing Lords of Gotham series and set it as The Billionaire Hart Series: https://www.goodreads.com/series/287697

Adding new editions for the each of the books in the series would be a separate thing. Goodreads policy is to keep all published covers on the site, as users want to shelve the cover of the copy they have. Instead, we add an alternate-cover edition. See http://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/1... and https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/....

As the author, you will have the ability to change which edition of the book is the default, which will show on your author profile. Here's how: https://www.goodreads.com/help/show/3...

[Deborah]

So then can you make The Good Billionaire 1, Daring 2, Bossy 3, Rebel 4, Fiery 5, and Reluctant 6? This was the order I had them in before I broke 5 and 6 out of the series.

I'll keep them with the current edition and mark the description, these books are now titled. I don't want someone to buy a book twice and then rip me apart in a review.

Then can you please create the Undeniably Yours series and add the editions:

Accidental
Unexpected
Convenient

People who bought those books under those titles/series need to shelve them properly too, right?

[rivka, Former Moderator]

Novellas and shorts get decimals in series on Goodreads.

[Deborah]

When the series was together Reluctant was 1 and Fiery was 5. They never had decimals. Then when I released Good Billionaire and made it 1 I moved Reluctant to the end.

I don't have any of these books labeled as a novella at the moment. They are full length romances.

What's appropriate is to make TGB .5 if you must, then Daring 1, Bossy 2, Rebel 3, Fiery 4, and Reluctant 5.

Will you still be creating the other series for the newer editions of the books?

My concern is if someone is shopping for my books on Goodreads when they get to Amazon nothing will match.

[Mantvydas]

Reluctant Billionaire is marked as #0.5 because it's a novella and a prequel.
From the book's description: "Reluctant Billionaire is a short intro read into the new billionaire series, Lords of Gotham."

Fiery Billionaire is not a novel length, so it can't be #4.

Full length on Goodreads means a novel size. Novellas, short stories, novelettes all get decimals in series on Goodreads.

I already created a series for Undeniably Yours yesterday and combined the existing editions on Goodreads. You can add missing editions yourself or request them in the correct section of the group.

Goodreads is not a retail store, but a cataloging website. And Goodreads naming policies are different from Amazon's.

[Deborah]

The Reluctant Billionaire description is from when I released the series last May and quite frankly I had no idea what I was doing.

It actually has no relation to the original series at all. None of the characters from the other books are in it. So when one of your reps ask how the books are linked when we request a series be created or a book added, I will tell you Reluctant Billioanire shouldn't have been in the series at all.

Which is why I eventually took it out. Sure I got people to buy it, but then saw no read-through to Daring because there was no connection.

Yes Goodreads is a cataloging website but you also allow people to leave reviews. And if books are not in the right order and that misleads a reader to go to Amazon and buy it and they're not happy they are going to leave a bad review and it will hurt my sales.

Fiery was added as a book after Rebel when I released it earlier this year. No one gave it a decimal number. Now the book isn't in the series at all. Anyone who would have bought it would have bought it as the story that came after Rebel Billionaire, regardless of the length.

THAT book is related to the series because of the characters. The books are meant to be read in order. But if you make it the second book that will mislead a reader.

Why is that not important?

Thank you for creating the other series.

I'm not trying to give you a hard time. But someone is purposely putting these books out of order when they were in the right order at one time.

[Mantvydas]

Deborah wrote: "It actually has no relation to the original series at all. None of the characters from the other books are in it. So when one of your reps ask how the books are linked when we request a series be created or a book added, I will tell you Reluctant Billioanire shouldn't have been in the series at all."

Just a few hours ago in post #12, you asked it to be #5 in the series.

If peoples search for anything by name or ASIN/ISBN they will get directed to that exact record here on Goodreads.

Fiery Billionaire on the series page, as #3.5. Please check before accusing.

[Deborah]

In message #5, I asked that it be removed. Then I found out I can't remove it at all. It took 7 more messages and I finally said, okay, if it HAS to stay as part of the series it should be number 5, assuming Fiery was going away. If not, then it would be 6. I'm not picking random numbers here. There was an order to the story starting with Daring. Then Bossy. Then Rebel. Then Fiery technically.

Sometimes we write and the stories take us places we don't realize at first.

Then I found out books of certain lengths have to have decimal numbers. But when they were added originally, they were added as 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.

My head is spinning.

I'll have to accept Goodreads users will just have no clue what's what with this series. It's my fault for not doing a better job of writing a better cohesive series in the first place.

You can close this thread.

Thank you for your time.