Unknown reader, Maya, Sophie and Ishika : And Then There Were None

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ch 5 spoilers .

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“Sleeping beautiful, she is.”
“Good,” said the doctor. “Don’t disturb her.”

Umm…THE POEM
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Ch 6 spoilers -
(view spoiler)[ yup, I was right (hide spoiler)]

[Ishika]

Hey I'm continuing with this book

[Ishika]

I was listening to the audiobook and I finally understood certain things

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Oh great !

[Maya]

I know!! If it weren’t for the audiobook, I would’ve dnf-ed this by now…

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

It had a slow beginning, but it’s finally catching up !
My favorite thing now is to guess who’ll die next

[Maya]

Same! I keep reading the poem constantly to see how they’re going to die 😌

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ok, I’ve only finished ch 7 but I still want to share my theory before another murder happens.

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First of all, ‘mr Owen’ is obviously one of them. Because I don’t see anyone else, so I think it is one of them but who ?
I think we need more clues…
Another thing … the murders. Both of them were ‘poisoned’ in some way.
So. The first murder…I wonder how it took place. Maybe the poison was in the cup or something ?
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[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Done with chapter 8 !
And …
(view spoiler)[ I was right ! Owens is one of them…but who ?? Also, I think the ex-officer is the one dying next. Idk, he seems like the type to go (hide spoiler)]

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Also, here’s updated character list for anyone who wants to see through clues again…
Spoilers till ch 9 !

(view spoiler)[

Edward George Armstrong -
Crime -the death of Louisa Mary Clees.
Defense - says she’s probably a victim of one of his operation.,
GUILTY
In reality, she’s victim of drunk driving.

Emily Caroline Brent,
Crime - the death of Beatrice Taylor.
Defence - no defense. Apparently killed herself while drowning in the water. Probably because she was ashamed ? Yeah, suspicious.

William Henry Blore,
Crime - death of James Stephen Landor
Defense - testified against him and he was found guilty, later died in prison. Blore insist he was really guilty.

Vera Elizabeth Claythorne,
Crime - death of Cyril Ogilvie Hamilton.
Defense - she was his governer and in her watch, he accidentally drowned. Insist it was an accident,

Philip Lombard
Crime - the death of twenty-one men, members of an East African tribe.
Defense - took their food and left them to starve. I’m his defense he did it to save himself.

John Gordon Macarthur, 💀 due to an attack in his head while he was sitting alone beside the sea
Crime - death of his wife’s lover, Arthur Richmond.
Defense - denies the affair and says Richmond was one of his officer who he sent on a mission, died naturally.
GUILTY
he did know about the affair and he deliberately sent him to his death. Artmirage is a possible witness.

Anthony James Marston, 💀 due to chocking on a drink
Crime - death of John and Lucy Combes.
Defense - two children he ran over by ‘accident’

Thomas Rogers and Ethel Rogers 💀 died in her sleep
Crime - the death of Jennifer Brady.
Defense - an old lady in their care who died because they couldn’t get a doctor on time

Lawrence John Wargrave,
Crime - death of Edward Seton.
Defense - an convict he found guilty. Actually, he influenced the jury to pass him as guilty because of evidence. Or else he would have been acquitted.

One of them is ‘mr Owens’ !

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Main poem !
Spoilers till ch 9 !

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“Ten little soldier boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were Nine.
💀 Tony Marston who choked on a drink

Nine little soldier boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were Eight.
💀 mrs Rogers who died in her sleep

Eight little soldier boys travelling in Devon;
One said he’d stay there and then there were Seven.
💀 General MacArthur who died with an attack on his head while he was alone near the sea.

Seven little soldier boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves and then there were Six.

Six little soldier boys playing with a hive;
A bumble bee stung one and then there were Five.

Five little soldier boys going in for law;
One got in Chancery and then there were Four.

Four little soldier boys going out to sea;
A red herring swallowed one and then there were Three.

Three little soldier boys walking in the Zoo;
A big bear hugged one and then there were Two.

Two little soldier boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was One.

One little soldier boy left all alone;
He went and hanged himself and then there were None.


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[Maya]

Spoiler from chapter 9

(view spoiler)[ I think it might be Vera, no one suspects from her, and she's refusing to believe that mr. owen is one of them, plus she was the last one who talked to the general. I'm suspicious about Emily Brent too. (hide spoiler)]

I still have no idea who's the murderer 😩

[Maya]

Unknown wrote: "Ok, I’ve only finished ch 7 but I still want to share my theory before another murder happens.


First of all, ‘mr Owen’ is obviously one of them. Because I don’t see anyone else, so I think it is ..."

I started chapter 10, and I still need more clues to figure out who's the murderer!

[Maya]

(view spoiler)[ Unknown wrote: "Main poem !


“Ten little soldier boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were Nine.
💀 Tony Marston who choked on a drink

Nine little soldier boys sat up very late;
One o..."

Unknown wrote: "Also, here’s updated character list for anyone who wants to see through clues again…
Spoilers till ch 8 !



Edward George Armstrong -
Crime -the death of Louisa Mary Clees.
Defense - says she’s ..." (hide spoiler)]

This is so helpful, Mary! Thanks!

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Spoilers ch 9

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Yup, general is dead. I knew it (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Maya wrote: "Spoiler from chapter 9

[spoilers removed]

I still have no idea who's the murderer 😩"

Ok !
Ch 9 spoilers
(view spoiler)[ I also suspect Vera but not Emily. I don’t think it’s her. Because..we can guess everything about her and nothing points out to her being Owens yet. But we don’t know much about Vera… (hide spoiler)]

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Chapter 10
Spoilers (not really)

(view spoiler)[ “I don’t fancy that there’s anything insane about you, Vera. You strike me as being one of the sanest and most levelheaded girls I’ve come across. I’d stake my reputation on your sanity.”
Famous last words 💀
I STILL suspect Vera (hide spoiler)]

[Ishika]

guys I realized something. I can't listen to the audiobook at night so I'll go veryyy slow.

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ishika wrote: "guys I realized something. I can't listen to the audiobook at night so I'll go veryyy slow."

It’s fine.
I’ll be here for discussion all the time.

[Maya]

It okay, Ishika! I don’t think I can get to ch 12 today 😔
I’ve planned on finishing till ch 12 and making progress on my current reads, but my cousins are here, so no reading for me… 😢

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Hmm…I’ll stop for now then, I wanna discuss with everyone.

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

12 chapters done and…

(view spoiler)[ And then there were 5. But on a serious note, Vera is highly suspicious. I really think it’s Vera, because she’s the only we know very little about. Also, no body is suspecting her becuse of her ‘normal’ act but seems a bit sus to me (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Another checkpoint done
This the updated character list for those who want to go through clues again.

(view spoiler)[

Edward George Armstrong -
Crime -the death of Louisa Mary Clees.
Defense - says she’s probably a victim of one of his operation.,
GUILTY
In reality, she’s victim of drunk driving.

Emily Caroline Brent, 💀 due to bee ‘sting’, injection to the throat actually but the bee was still present.
Crime - the death of Beatrice Taylor.
Defence - no defense. Apparently killed herself while drowning in the water. Probably because she was ashamed ? Yeah, suspicious.
HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
because of the heavy guilt and madness.

William Henry Blore,
Crime - death of James Stephen Landor
Defense - testified against him and he was found guilty, later died in prison. Blore insist he was really guilty.
GUILTY
admits to falsely testifying.

Vera Elizabeth Claythorne,
Crime - death of Cyril Ogilvie Hamilton.
Defense - she was his governer and in her watch, he accidentally drowned. Insist it was an accident,

Philip Lombard
Crime - the death of twenty-one men, members of an East African tribe.
Defense - took their food and left them to starve. In his defense he did it to save himself.

John Gordon Macarthur, 💀 due to an attack in his head while he was sitting alone beside the sea
Crime - death of his wife’s lover, Arthur Richmond.
Defense - denies the affair and says Richmond was one of his officer who he sent on a mission, died naturally.
GUILTY
he did know about the affair and he deliberately sent him to his death. Artmirage is a possible witness.

Anthony James Marston, 💀 due to chocking on a drink
Crime - death of John and Lucy Combes.
Defense - two children he ran over by ‘accident’

Thomas Rogers and Ethel Rogers 💀 died in her sleep and the other died with a chopper on his head.
Crime - the death of Jennifer Brady.
Defense - an old lady in their care who died because they couldn’t get a doctor on time
HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
As the doctor pointed out, could have gotten away easily…

Lawrence John Wargrave,
Crime - death of Edward Seton.
Defense - an convict he found guilty. Actually, he influenced the jury to pass him as guilty because of evidence. Or else he would have been acquitted.

One of them is ‘mr Owens’ !

I highly suspect it’s Vera because
- we know very little about her
- some symptoms of madness
- very quiet and discreet but shows perfectly normal ‘symptoms’
Almost psychotic.
- very sharp but pretends not to be

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[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Here’s an updated main poem
Spoiler till ch 12.

(view spoiler)[
“Ten little soldier boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were Nine.
💀 Tony Marston who choked on a drink

Nine little soldier boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were Eight.
💀 mrs Rogers who died in her sleep

Eight little soldier boys travelling in Devon;
One said he’d stay there and then there were Seven.
💀 General MacArthur who died with an attack on his head while he was alone near the sea.

Seven little soldier boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves and then there were Six.
💀 Mr roger due to a chopper on his head

Six little soldier boys playing with a hive;
A bumble bee stung one and then there were Five.
💀 due to a bee ‘sting’, injection actually. Bee was still present though

Five little soldier boys going in for law;
One got in Chancery and then there were Four.

Four little soldier boys going out to sea;
A red herring swallowed one and then there were Three.

Three little soldier boys walking in the Zoo;
A big bear hugged one and then there were Two.

Two little soldier boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was One.

One little soldier boy left all alone;
He went and hanged himself and then there were None.


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[Ishika]

Mary I found some lines inspired by your status updates :

Fred Narracott sat by the engine thinking to himself that this was a queer lot.

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Ishika wrote: "Mary I found some lines inspired by your status updates :

Fred Narracott sat by the engine thinking to himself that this was a queer lot."

🤣🤣🤣
On a serious note, it’s very clear this novel is written in 1939.
I mean, calling your wife pretty and gay at the same time…umm sir..

[Ishika]

actually gay has 2 meanings. 1 means lqbt gay and 1 means happiness or something

[Ishika]

like in the poem Daffodils by William Wordsworth there's this line -

A poet could not but be gay

[Ishika]

I once learned Daffodils by heart and I still remember it (ㄒoㄒ)

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ishika wrote: "actually gay has 2 meanings. 1 means lqbt gay and 1 means happiness or something"

Yup, I know.
But the first meaning is always set for me and for everyone actually, except if you’re like above 50 maybe.

[Ishika]

me and my homophobic friends who used to laugh at this word (we were 9 or 10 so please forgive me)

[Ishika]

just to be clear - I admit that I was homophobic when I was young but now I'm definitely not

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ishika wrote: "me and my homophobic friends who used to laugh at this word (we were 9 or 10 so please forgive me)"

Hmm…when I was 9 or 10, pls don’t laugh..
But I knew very little about lgbtq
I thought they didn’t exist, because in TVs they were just a joke..

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ishika wrote: "just to be clear - I admit that I was homophobic when I was young but now I'm definitely not"

And I was ignorant..for an embarrassing amount of time.
Urgh…like seriously, VERY ignorant..

[Maya]

Ch. 12

(view spoiler)[ Oh no! Emily Brent is next!

Also, I'm still suspicious of Vera and also, Philip. (hide spoiler)]

[Maya]

Maya [semi-hiatus] wrote: "Ch. 12

(view spoiler)[Oh no! Emily Brent is next!

Also, I'm still suspicious of Vera and also, Philip. " (hide spoiler)]

(view spoiler)[ Also, Blore is very busy triyng to convince everyone that someone else is the murderer, but him. So that's sus too. (hide spoiler)]

I'm so confused 😩 I do not know who to trust!

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Maya [semi-hiatus] wrote: "Maya [semi-hiatus] wrote: "Ch. 12

Oh no! Emily Brent is next!

Also, I'm still suspicious of Vera and also, Philip. "

[spoilers removed]

I'm so confused 😩 I do not know who to trust!"

I’m telling you.. (view spoiler)[ it’s Vera and I think the next person to die will be the judge (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ok, chapter 13 done and…

(view spoiler)[ then there were 4…I knew it, I’m so proud of myself. The ex judge is dead.
Sorry for this but…

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[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Also, updated character list !
Spoilers till ch 15

(view spoiler)[

Edward George Armstrong - 💀 kind of disappeared. I suspect he was thrown into the sea somehow.
Crime -the death of Louisa Mary Clees.
Defense - says she’s probably a victim of one of his operation.,
GUILTY
In reality, she’s victim of drunk driving.

Emily Caroline Brent, 💀 due to bee ‘sting’, injection to the throat actually but the bee was still present.
Crime - the death of Beatrice Taylor.
Defence - no defense. Apparently killed herself while drowning in the water. Probably because she was ashamed ? Yeah, suspicious.
HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
because of the heavy guilt and madness.

William Henry Blore, 💀 a bear mantelpiece fell on him. ‘Hugged by a bear’
Crime - death of James Stephen Landor
Defense - testified against him and he was found guilty, later died in prison. Blore insist he was really guilty.
GUILTY
admits to falsely testifying.

Vera Elizabeth Claythorne,
Crime - death of Cyril Ogilvie Hamilton.
Defense - she was his governer and in her watch, he accidentally drowned. Insist it was an accident,
GUILTY
deliberately sent him to drown and distracted his mother. Did this, so that his lover can get rid of him and also resented him.

Philip Lombard
Crime - the death of twenty-one men, members of an East African tribe.
Defense - took their food and left them to starve. In his defense he did it to save himself.

John Gordon Macarthur, 💀 due to an attack in his head while he was sitting alone beside the sea
Crime - death of his wife’s lover, Arthur Richmond.
Defense - denies the affair and says Richmond was one of his officer who he sent on a mission, died naturally.
GUILTY
he did know about the affair and he deliberately sent him to his death. Artmirage is a possible witness.

Anthony James Marston, 💀 due to chocking on a drink
Crime - death of John and Lucy Combes.
Defense - two children he ran over by ‘accident’

Thomas Rogers and Ethel Rogers 💀 died in her sleep and the other died with a chopper on his head.
Crime - the death of Jennifer Brady.
Defense - an old lady in their care who died because they couldn’t get a doctor on time
HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
As the doctor pointed out, could have gotten away easily…

Lawrence John Wargrave, 💀 due to a shot on his head, while he was in a judge set up.
Crime - death of Edward Seton.
Defense - an convict he found guilty. Actually, he influenced the jury to pass him as guilty because of evidence. Or else he would have been acquitted.
HIGHLY SUSPICIOUS
As pointed out by someone (forgot who), he manipulated the verdict. Also, sounds to have bad impression of the convict regardless of evidences.

One of them is ‘mr Owens’ !

I highly suspect it’s Vera because
- we know very little about her
- some symptoms of madness
- very quiet and discreet but shows perfectly normal ‘symptoms’
Almost psychotic.
- very sharp but pretends not to be

(hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Updates main poem ! Spoilers till ch 15

(view spoiler)[
“Ten little soldier boys went out to dine;
One choked his little self and then there were Nine.
💀 Tony Marston who choked on a drink

Nine little soldier boys sat up very late;
One overslept himself and then there were Eight.
💀 mrs Rogers who died in her sleep

Eight little soldier boys travelling in Devon;
One said he’d stay there and then there were Seven.
💀 General MacArthur who died with an attack on his head while he was alone near the sea.

Seven little soldier boys chopping up sticks;
One chopped himself in halves and then there were Six.
💀 Mr roger due to a chopper on his head

Six little soldier boys playing with a hive;
A bumble bee stung one and then there were Five.
💀 due to a bee ‘sting’, injection actually. Bee was still present though

Five little soldier boys going in for law;
One got in Chancery and then there were Four.
💀 John wargrave who died due to a shot on his head while in a ‘judge’ set up

Four little soldier boys going out to sea;
A red herring swallowed one and then there were Three.
💀 Armstrong who just disappeared…I suspect he was thrown into the sea.

Three little soldier boys walking in the Zoo;
A big bear hugged one and then there were Two.
💀 blore who died after a bear mantelpiece fell on him. ‘Hugged by a bear’

Two little soldier boys sitting in the sun;
One got frizzled up and then there was One.

One little soldier boy left all alone;
He went and hanged himself and then there were None.


(hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ok, since all of my predictions came true (totally bragging). I predict that…(view spoiler)[ I think the next person to die is the doctor. Either him or the inspector. Though, doctor has higher chances (hide spoiler)]

[Maya]

Ch 14

(view spoiler)[ Yep! The doctor is dead. The only ones left are the three people I suspected! AAAAA, Idk what to think! (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Maya [semi-hiatus] wrote: "Ch 14

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Ch 14 spoilers !!
Hehe ..I knew it !! (view spoiler)[ I knew it ! The doctor is dead !! Just as I predicted 😌. So now, I think the inspector is gonna die, then the other guy and at last Vera will hang herself ( foreshadow, the ‘hook’). It’s definitely Vera, I’m telling you guys (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ch 15 spoilers

(view spoiler)[ there are only 2 left ! I knew it ! It’s Vera ! I know it’s Vera, I knew it from the staring. It’s always the most innocent ones 😇. Also, the inspector is dead !! I knew it was this guy and Vera. Hehe… (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Epilogue spoilers..

(view spoiler)[ ….. aaaaahhh…what ?? What ?? Seriously ???
Ok, ok…let’s read the manuscript (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Ok, guys…I finished the book and it was awesome and so cool !!!
I loved it, 5/5 stars !
But I do have slight problems…it’s fine.

[Maya]

OMG! I'M ON CH 16

(view spoiler)[ I KNEW IT!! IT WAS VERA, OR AT LEAST I THINK SO SINCE IS STILL HAVE TO READ THE EPILOUGE (hide spoiler)]

[Unknown, Bookish & Jobless]

Maya [semi-hiatus] wrote: "OMG! I'M ON CH 16

[spoilers removed]"

Hehe..

[Maya]

(view spoiler)[And then there were none… (hide spoiler)]

OMFG!

[Ishika]

so was the murderer? ;)