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At the Pleasure of the President (The Perfect Gentlemen, #5)
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message 1: by Jonetta (last edited Aug 09, 2021 03:37PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9399 comments Mod
Frank Hayes, Zack’s father, supposedly had dementia and was often found running around the Treaty Room. When did you, if ever, become suspicious that he might be faking? What was the biggest clue?


Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3501 comments I didn't catch on at all. I thought that his friend, I think it was Senator Armstrong, was using his dementia to get information.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1812 comments Like Sharon, I also didn't catch on and suspected Paul Harding was taking advantage of his mental deterioration to get dirt on Zack.

The friend was Paul Harding, Joy's father. Senator Armstrong is Lara's father.


Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3501 comments Lauren wrote: "Like Sharon, I also didn't catch on and suspected Paul Harding was taking advantage of his mental deterioration to get dirt on Zack.

The friend was Paul Harding, Joy's father. Senator Armstrong i..."


You are right. I didn't check the character list.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1812 comments Sharon wrote: "You are right. I didn't check the character list."

So many characters to keep track of. It's easy to become confused :)


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9399 comments Mod
I got suspicious before the reveal when he kept showing up in the Treaty Room. If he truly had dementia, he would not have shown up at the same place consistently. I could see if it was his own home but he’d never lived in the White House so nothing should have been familiar. The last time when Liz had to go retrieve him did it for me.


Lauren (laurenjberman) | 1812 comments That is a good point, Jonetta.


Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3501 comments Didn't Zack bring him to the WH after the election? That would be 3 years that he was living there.

Frank reminded me of my aunt. She would wander around my cousin's house all the time. She seemed to gravitate to the basement for no reason. I thought he ended up in the Treaty Room because that was an area that he could get to before anyone saw him.


message 9: by Jonetta (last edited Aug 10, 2021 06:13AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9399 comments Mod
But he came there supposedly with dementia. He’d not ever been able to become tied to that residence.

I’ve had many family members suffer from dementia or Alzheimer’s. Frank’s behavior was unreasonable, in my opinion. That Treaty Room connected him to nothing. And him being able to consistently find it was unbelievable.


Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3501 comments That's true. I didn't consider a lack of ties.

The only family member that I know with any type of dementia is my aunt. When I read that he was wandering around, I thought of her.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9399 comments Mod
They tend to fixate or continuously revisit a specific period of time. Every time we moved one of my afflicted relatives, they rarely connected with a place in the new location. They repeatedly saw the people from that time or asked for one or more. And, they sounded pretty lucid.

My mother and I had a lengthy conversation with one of her friends who didn’t recognize her in the present when we came upon her working in her garden. I had no idea she didn’t know us until my Mom casually mentioned their time together in high school in a different state (which I never knew!). The conversation took an amazing turn and these two were back in high school from 60 years earlier. You’d never have known there was a problem but I’d known this woman all my life and she hadn’t a clue who I was.

I suspect your aunt had a basement in her home and was trying to find a connection.


Sharon Kallenberger Marzola | 3501 comments Yes she did. She had a reading and craft/sewing room in her basement. When we were kids, she would sit with us there for hours teaching us to sew, knit, and crochet.


Jonetta (ejaygirl) | 9399 comments Mod
I’d imagine those were strong memories.


Karen ♐ (kmk1214) | 909 comments I was never suspicious. I just assumed he was wandering around and for some unknown reason ended up in that room.


Anita (anitanodiva) | 3009 comments I agree with Jonetta, Frank's dementia was awful convenient. I always had a suspicion it was fake. He got out of answering any questions and when he was found wandering into Zack's personal office, he was just escorted back to his room.


message 16: by Lynn (new) - rated it 3 stars

Lynn (ftbooklover) Yes, I agree that the dementia was too convenient. Always was in question.


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