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The Bone Clocks - Part VI: Sheep's Head (February 2015)
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I enjoyed this tale thoroughly up to this section but the denouement simply did not ring true to the same degree as the rest of the saga for me ... both in terms of story and character. Like the Ed-at-war section, the author's own politics got heavy-handed for my taste. Not that I disagree. But I felt these sections will not stand up for future generations. I am also not fond of deus ex machina rescues, and was disappointed by this one.
Mitchell is an amazing writer and storyteller, and most characters who were introduced did indeed return to reward the reader's attention with their integral importance later. But the boy child (being a bit vague to avoid spoiler) was purely extraneous, it seemed. Is he just a device? Or is a sequel coming?

(1) Every Mitchell book I've read so far (Ghostwritten, Cloud Atlas, and now The Bone Clocks) has ended with the human race going to hell in a hand basket, and I'm getting a bit tired of it.
(2) A major character, Aoife, is killed off-screen and in flashback.
(3) The state of the world is not believable. It's not the world going to hell because of climate change that I have a problem with, that's a possibility; but the collapse of Irish and English society. People just don't act that way in crisis situations. Also, the loss of the contents of the internet is just silly. Also, the world wouldn't run out of oil all at once, the price would keep climbing, which would mean that sources that normally wouldn't be cost efficient would be tapped. And there's be huge temptations to increase the use of coal (there's lots of coal), despite the effect on air and warming. And when things get really bad, there's the fact that many nations are very well armed.
The thing is, if you really want to screw over Ireland in a future, climate-related scenario, just assume the gulf stream moves (which is possible), and you're essentially left with Iceland without the geo-thermal power...
I don't think Mitchell did his research. Now, that might be an odd complaint in a book that contains out-and-out fantasy elements, but that part bugged me. Possibly I'm taking it too literally.


The future seemed relatively believable, although I wish he'd spelled out in an expository way less of what had led to the pass.


I saw this novel as essentially a story about Holly and her men. I always thought of marinus as a male perhaps because of the ancient mariner and to me the boy child was her final bond with the male and a completing of the circle as he called jacko to mind.

And was Aoife really a major character? I never felt that. And pretty much every character in this novel disappeared off-screen so this was very much part of the novel's template. He was, at least, consistent.






I haven't read either of the books you mention ( both look very interesting) and I don't doubt other writers have done a better job of interpreting (a section of) history through the lifespan of a single woman. Just thought it was an observation worthy of debate.

The things that bother me above the idea of society breaking down into a dystopian war of all-against-all (or town vs town) when a disaster occurs are: one, it's a cliche (particularly on TV and movies), and I think a lazy one; two, it's unrealistic -- people tend to act a lot more altruistic in real disasters; and three, it trains us to expect the worst from our fellow humans, which has real-world negative consequences in actual disasters.
And by the way, I go by Peter, not "Pete".




No problem!
Julie's post (2) largely lays out the problems I had with this chapter as well, although, like Terry, I preferred it to the preceding sections with the fantasy war.
For Peter and Ben's point about people pulling together, I don't think that's always the case. People tend to pull to together and help their own, such as the example of England during the blitz, but they also tend to protect themselves against 'outsiders'. It was only two days after the flooding when people in the neighboring town used guns to prevent evacuees from New Orleans crossing into their town.
For Peter and Ben's point about people pulling together, I don't think that's always the case. People tend to pull to together and help their own, such as the example of England during the blitz, but they also tend to protect themselves against 'outsiders'. It was only two days after the flooding when people in the neighboring town used guns to prevent evacuees from New Orleans crossing into their town.

Peter wrote: "As I said above: " Societies don't tend to break up like that unless there are really severe pre-existing tensions." New Orleans has a lot of pre-existing tensions (mostly along racial and class l..."
Right, I didn't disagree with that. My disagreement was with the assertion that people pull together in disasters, which is true with limitations. Although, eventually, when things got bad enough and with enough time, even close knit villages would start seeing each other as rivals as one's tribe grew more insular. Mitchell did present us with some preexisting schisms between the Stability government and the Chinese Zone, but I agree he didn't allow nearly enough time for that level of breakdown to have occurred.
Right, I didn't disagree with that. My disagreement was with the assertion that people pull together in disasters, which is true with limitations. Although, eventually, when things got bad enough and with enough time, even close knit villages would start seeing each other as rivals as one's tribe grew more insular. Mitchell did present us with some preexisting schisms between the Stability government and the Chinese Zone, but I agree he didn't allow nearly enough time for that level of breakdown to have occurred.
And, also, as Violet pointed out, I think this is very much the prelude to the society of Sloosha's Crossin. With the future raiders and villagers playing out the same scenario at a far more primitive level.
Ian wrote: "It's only 26 years since the Soviet Union was in Afghanistan."
A poster child for those pre-existing tensions.
A poster child for those pre-existing tensions.

I thought this section was the most bizarre, by far. I spent most of it wondering what on earth was going on. Did Holly really go through all that effort only to have everything wind up like this? It was exhausting. Plus, it was the kind of post-apocalyptic dystopia story that has been done a thousand times, and far better, elsewhere.
Having said that, I still wanted to keep reading and still felt myself growing nervous any time Holly and her grandchildren seemed to be in danger. I grew incredibly excited when Marinus showed up to rescue Lorelai and Rafiq. This really had me torn - so many questions left unanswered, a strong feeling of "what does this have to do with what we've read the last several hundred pages?", all mixed in with a sense of "yay! A hero is here!"
Perhaps these types of disaster stories show up over and over because there is something compelling about them, or about how they make us think and feel. Even if people don't necessarily act this way when disaster strikes, our thoughts seem to head in the direction of assuming the worst. In a way, it feels dangerously exciting to embrace those dark thoughts and see how someone else would (or wouldn't) get their characters out of the situation.
Having said that, I still wanted to keep reading and still felt myself growing nervous any time Holly and her grandchildren seemed to be in danger. I grew incredibly excited when Marinus showed up to rescue Lorelai and Rafiq. This really had me torn - so many questions left unanswered, a strong feeling of "what does this have to do with what we've read the last several hundred pages?", all mixed in with a sense of "yay! A hero is here!"
Perhaps these types of disaster stories show up over and over because there is something compelling about them, or about how they make us think and feel. Even if people don't necessarily act this way when disaster strikes, our thoughts seem to head in the direction of assuming the worst. In a way, it feels dangerously exciting to embrace those dark thoughts and see how someone else would (or wouldn't) get their characters out of the situation.
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