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Joanne wrote: "ah, Karin..Manga are real books...":) Yes, yes, of course they are, but they are also really long comic books...I grew up in a home where those were not allowed until my younger brothers weren't into reading. They got to have Asterix etc as long as they read one chapter per night in a print book. As you can see, this has left me scarred for life ;)...
In any event I find the art distracting in Manga and Graphic Novels and it's not how I enjoy books now. Of course, had I been able to read them as a child, who knows?
My main question re manga is whether most are long enough to qualify for any of the Pursue or Fly the Skies challenges. I know there are graphic novels that are long enough, and I know that some people use the terms interchangeably, but I'm just not certain.
I have a manga of les miserables which I'm planning on using if that wins, and it's bound to qualify for fly the pbt skies!
Book Concierge wrote: "My main question re manga is whether most are long enough to qualify for any of the Pursue or Fly the Skies challenges. I know there are graphic novels that are long enough, and I know that some pe..."I wondered also and I actually took a quick look at page numbers of many of the most tagged books, which were over 200 pages. Even most graphic novels are over 150 pages, some quite long, I have discovered.
If it shows I voted more than once let me know. I went to change my vote and it let me vote all over again. Sorry if this causes an issue.
LibraryCin wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Does anyone have recommendations for YA cultural books? Maybe a coming of age story set in another country, or a book about an immigrant teenager?..."Ha! And the first one that cam..."
Thanks Cindy this looks really good. As I was reading the Golem and the Jinni (he was from the area that is now Syria), I started thinking about all the people who were forced to leave their homes in this century. I haven't read anything at all about them, so thank you for the rec. Escape from Syria
Booknblues wrote: "Goodreads states that "cultural" "Cultural refers to books that depict a place or time and its culture."I found this which is quite interesting:
https://www.goodreads.com/genres/cult..."
I like the new format! It includes the same old list, plus listopias and new releases by authors I've read. I noticed that they're streamlining some old tags into bigger categories. I do not like that the "multi-cultural" shelf was merged into the cultural shelf and erased. They do not mean the same thing.
Also, just because a book is set in a specific country, it doesn't mean that the culture is represented. The author might not know anything more about it than tourist attractions.
Meli wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Meli wrote: "I skipped a lot of dialogue above, so I am sorry if this was covered - manga is NOT FOR TEENAGE BOYS! Think comics... but in Japan literally everyone reads manga, ever..."
OK, I'll see what I can find (with a cultural tag). I like the gender role swaps, and I know a little about the salaryman. I can't think of the Japanese word that was common in the 90's-2000's to describe overwork as a cause of death for salarymen. And I can relate to the retiree who feels lost. I'll see what my library has.
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I couldn't find any of those. They have a Samurai Gourmet book that is just a cookbook. My library has Fruits Basket No 1. which is very popular and written by a woman. It's also 390 pages!
Theresa wrote: "Book Concierge wrote: "My main question re manga is whether most are long enough to qualify for any of the Pursue or Fly the Skies challenges. I know there are graphic novels that are long enough, ..."They're mostly pictures so they need the extra pages to tell the story I guess.
Linda wrote: "If it shows I voted more than once let me know. I went to change my vote and it let me vote all over again. Sorry if this causes an issue."That reminds me. I don't know if my vote actually went through. My laptop battery died when I was on the phone, and I'm not sure I actually sent it in. I just sent Anita a dm and mentioned you as well just in case.
Kimber wrote: "All of these tags work for me; I have solid possibilities for each. I have the most titles at hand under the cultural tag, then manga, then YA. The manga is actually my daughter's but I've read and..."I loved both of those films. I just looked up My Neighbor Totoro, and it sounds like it was a movie first, then formed into a book later. I might not have read that correctly. The author of Howl's Moving Castle is an English woman. I didn't like the book as much as the film.
I found a list of female authors, and found several manga books set in England, or even Victorian England. It makes me wonder if Steampunk literature began in manga or graphic novels.
Yep, that's it. Thanks for finding it. We talked about it in class in terms of cultural norms (national and/or organization culture). They were expected to work long hours into the night whether there was a real need for it or not. I didn't know then about what the Japanese military put the pilots through in WWII to make sure they would sacrifice themselves as kamikaze pilots. (It wasn't exactly voluntary.)I found this article about the 20 most well known female manga artists (mangaka). It was pretty interesting. One woman used a masculine form of her name for years because males might not have read her work otherwise. I think this must happen all around the world (or they use initials like JK Rowling, C.S. Harris.)
https://japanobjects.com/features/fem...
For those discussing manga, I used to read them a ton when I was younger. Some are definitely very good, although I would say a lot of them carry Japanese tropes/cultural quirks that a Western reader might find confusing at first blush. I also remembering being super disappointed when it was clear a joke was really funny in Japanese but it just wasn't translating correctly. There's also tons of different genres and tbh I never dove all that fully into them...My biggest issue with them now is mostly just the time and money sink. The ones I loved the most are long-running serials that usually get published in magazines first, then are anthologized into collections, then have to be translated and released into English and bought at $10 a pop... then you can usually read them in an hour or two. After awhile it just felt like a waste of money, and waiting for the next volume to come out was annoying. Also I do think most of them wind up geared toward a YA audience, so if that's not your thing in general you might not find them all that appealing.
That said, I'm sure the popular series can be found at most libraries these days. And the art is often super gorgeous. I always liked the art style better than Western comics. Here's a few recs of series worth checking out...
Death Note (crime drama where the protagonist is the main villain - highly inspired by Sherlock Holmes)
Kuroshitsuji/Black Butler (Faustian bargain between a young British noble and a demon who manifests as his butler. Together they solve crimes! Set in Victorian England and the art is to die for)
Pandora Hearts (a giant homage to Alice in Wonderland, set in an alternate world that is sorta regency/Victorian-ish but with all sorts of crazy magic powers)
This has been your manga PSA from a former weeabo, LOL. Have a good day!
Heather Reads Books wrote: "For those discussing manga, I used to read them a ton when I was younger. Some are definitely very good, although I would say a lot of them carry Japanese tropes/cultural quirks that a Western read..."Thanks Heather! One of my local library branches seems to have a good collection of them. I picked out a few to look for, by female artists, set in Japan. I'll read it for the cultural tag. One has people who can turn into the animals in the Chinese Zodiac.
Linda wrote: "If it shows I voted more than once let me know. I went to change my vote and it let me vote all over again. Sorry if this causes an issue."No worries, Linda! Maybe private message me with the vote you want just so I am sure to be clear . . .
Joanne wrote: "LoL Thanks for the PSA, Heather!"I started out with just a short note and then I got very impassioned. I guess there's still a manga fan in me after all. And I haven't even voted yet!
NancyJ wrote: "Thanks Heather! One of my local library branches seems to have a good collection of them. I picked out a few to look for, by female artists, set in Japan. I'll read it for the cultural tag. One has people who can turn into the animals in the Chinese Zodiac."
That sounds like Fruits Basket, which I never read but I did watch the anime (a lot of manga get anime adaptations). From what I remember it's very light and sweet!
Booknblues wrote: "Robin P wrote: "My issue is that I am really trying to read books I already own or that I know I am interested in. None of them are manga and few are YA. Those tags are both genres rather than them..."I agree with both of you on your approach to choosing a tag. I have a huge TBR so I like to read a couple from that list each month.
Hi!I am new to the group, and excited for it! This vote for the August book tag was super easy, literally most of the books I read are YA.
Heather Reads Books wrote: "Joanne wrote: "LoL Thanks for the PSA, Heather!"I started out with just a short note and then I got very impassioned. I guess there's still a manga fan in me after all. And I haven't even voted y..."
Yes, Heather, that's the one. I liked some anime films so I figure will be the same here. I put a couple on hold just to make sure I get one that I can actually read (vision issues). I decided that even though I voted for cultural (it's one of my all time favorite tags), I'm going to read a Manga book too (preferably one with a cultural-Japan tag). I might do this every month, especially with tags that are new to me and are loved by a few others in the group. I'm reading a YA book book now for the regency tag.
Abigail wrote: "Hi!I am new to the group, and excited for it! This vote for the August book tag was super easy, literally most of the books I read are YA."
Welcome Abigail! This is a great group, and I hope you love it here too. This group has gotten me to try a lot of genres I didn't read before. Have you tried a regency book yet for this month's tag? It was new to many of us, but there are a lot of different genres choices. (I read the first Bridgerton book and His Majesty's Dragon, which both have a YA feel.)
NancyJ wrote: "Welcome Abigail! This is a great group,..."
I don't think I have read any of the books from this month's tag, although I didn't scroll through the whole entire list because there were so many pages of it. I definitely want to read Pride and Prejudice. I do remember watching the 1995 tv series that was based off of it with my mother, and I did enjoy it a lot.
I do have a question for this group. What are the participation points, and how do you gain and lose them?
Abigail wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Welcome Abigail! This is a great group,..."
I don't think I have read any of the books from this month's tag, although I didn't scroll through the whole entire list because there w..."
If you look at this thread:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Message 13, Nicole R. lays it all out. You get participation participation points for reading and posting reviews, 2 points for the tag of the month and 1 for other reads.
You use the points to vote each month. If you have a supply of points and really want a tag to win for the month you can add additional points to it.
As for the Regency tag, besides the shelf, you might check out what members have already read. Also, it does not have to be tagged Regency, if you deem that it fits the tag, but you might be called out on it if you read something set during WWI and tagged it Regency. Members expect a certain amount of truthfulness about our reads.
Welcome Abigail! Jump right in, we're a fun group and there's no pressure. You'll get the hang of things fast enough!
Abigail wrote: "NancyJ wrote: "Welcome Abigail! This is a great group,..."
I don't think I have read any of the books from this month's tag, although I didn't scroll through the whole entire list because there w..."
Pride and Prejudice is perfect for regency. I love it (and the movies too).
You automatically get one free point to vote each month. You'll earn 2 points this month for each regency book you read and review. You'll earn one point for each other book. You can "spend" your points to use more votes later on, or just let them accumulate as a record of your progress.
We also have a "Pursue It" challenge to look for key words, and you'll earn 1 point for each one you find. I know Pride and Prejudice has at least one or two of them this month. Book Concierge read it this month, so later on you can see how she wrote it up. The details are here:
https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
Glad to see you here, Abigail! It is a great group to share love of books. There are also opportunities to participate in challenges, read alongs, and buddy reads that have nothing to do with points. Christmas in July is currently active - check out footnotes for info. Footnotes also has ongoing buddy reads where you can read and discuss a book at your own pace. I still have not finished How Much of These Hills Is Gold but when I do I will post there my discussion points to engage those who already finished.
I joined in August 2018, and spent 2018 doing monthly tags and joining some buddy reads. Oh and I did the Fall Flurries challenge that starts in September or October. That gave me time to find my feet for the year long ones.
Welcome Abigail! Lots of great people/readers here, I am sure you will enjoy it!
Welcome, Abigail! I first read Pride and Prejudice after watching a mini series on it, but it was earlier than 1995 so I have a different Mr. Darcy in my head, but my mother loved the 1995 one.I am sure you'll enjoy this group :)
Welcome Abigail - look forward to getting to know you and reading your reviews!
Welcome, Abigail. It may seem daunting at first, but we're a very friendly group and everyone is willing to help you find your way.
We look forward to hearing about the books you've read and reading your reviews.
Huh. I'm actually pretty happy with any of these choices.
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