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It's been a while since I read it so I think I will try to join in. I am a bit behind on my reading, unfortunately.
It's been a while since I read it so I think I will try to join in. I am a bit behind on my reading, unfortunately.

I have read the first book in preparation for this one, so I will definitely be reading. I do recall that I did not like the beginning of the first book - I often find that authors initially portray the heroine as a strident bluestocking who I find annoying and that they then mellow as the book goes on. Perhaps that is what is happening in this book...I will have to read it to see


I really liked both Phaedra and Elliott. I liked Elliott's serious and nerdy side, and his patience and understanding with Phaedra. They are lovely together, and there is real chemistry between them.
I think over the book, Hunter did a really good job of giving you an understanding of Phaedra and why she was the way she was. An unusual heroine, but Hunter succeeded in making me like her.
I also liked the little mystery throughout the book related to (view spoiler)
I have start listening to this. I believe my first read was a listen also. I wonder if listening is disguising the boring bits, as I am enjoying it. I doubt the 5-star rating will hold up for me, but I still think it’s good.

How is the narrator, Joanna? I didn't care for the narrator of the first book. I was able to finish, but I won't seek out any others by her.
T. wrote: "Joanna Loves Reading wrote: "I have start listening to this. I believe my first read was a listen also. I wonder if listening is disguising the boring bits, as I am enjoying it. I doubt the 5-star ..."
I have been liking the narrator. I didn’t realize they were different but I have listened to Susan Duerden, who narrates the first book, plenty and find her to be hit or miss IMO. I think this might be the only book that I have listened to by Jill Tanner. So far I like her.
I have been liking the narrator. I didn’t realize they were different but I have listened to Susan Duerden, who narrates the first book, plenty and find her to be hit or miss IMO. I think this might be the only book that I have listened to by Jill Tanner. So far I like her.
Well that was a bit of a disappointment for me. I did not engage with the heroine at all - while I sympathise with her ideals, she was simply unrealistic for the regency genre.
On the whole the book was rather boring. It should have been good - there was lots of intrigue, exotic settings, and I love series about a family where you get to know all the family members and their relationships (think Bridgertons, MacKenzies....). But it just seemed to be "argue, sex, argue sex, argue, sex, sex". Don't get me wrong I don't mind the sex, but there was a lot of it and I suspect it was because other than lust these two characters were not actually well matched and I did not really believe in the romance. I suspect the lust will pass and they will both end up wondering what the hell they have done.
I also found the sojourn in Italy very long winded. When Phaedra and Elliot were in (view spoiler) .
I enjoyed the first book, but I am not sure I will continue onto book 3.
On a side note - I do not think it fit the trope - Siblings best friend. This was brother's new wife's best friend. There was no long standing connection; there was minimal to no conflict because she was his brothers wife's friend (OK he felt he should do the right thing by her, but that was about it). That was how they met - and there was not much more to it. I actually think it would have been a far better book with more Rothwells and less Phaedra.....
On the whole the book was rather boring. It should have been good - there was lots of intrigue, exotic settings, and I love series about a family where you get to know all the family members and their relationships (think Bridgertons, MacKenzies....). But it just seemed to be "argue, sex, argue sex, argue, sex, sex". Don't get me wrong I don't mind the sex, but there was a lot of it and I suspect it was because other than lust these two characters were not actually well matched and I did not really believe in the romance. I suspect the lust will pass and they will both end up wondering what the hell they have done.
I also found the sojourn in Italy very long winded. When Phaedra and Elliot were in (view spoiler) .
I enjoyed the first book, but I am not sure I will continue onto book 3.
On a side note - I do not think it fit the trope - Siblings best friend. This was brother's new wife's best friend. There was no long standing connection; there was minimal to no conflict because she was his brothers wife's friend (OK he felt he should do the right thing by her, but that was about it). That was how they met - and there was not much more to it. I actually think it would have been a far better book with more Rothwells and less Phaedra.....


I’m listening to the audio and while I don’t mind the narration, I’m concerned that maybe her interpretation of the dialogue and characterizations are altering the story for me as well? Difficult to know.
T. wrote: "I started this last night and I’m around 20%. I’ll give it to 30% before I consider giving it up, but I’m struggling. The H/h dynamics are all wrong for me and Elliott is completely different than ..."
I had some trouble following at times, but I think that was due to my lengthy breaks between listening.
I finished it up today.
I had some trouble following at times, but I think that was due to my lengthy breaks between listening.
I finished it up today.
T. wrote: "I started this last night and I’m around 20%. I’ll give it to 30% before I consider giving it up, but I’m struggling. The H/h dynamics are all wrong for me and Elliott is completely different than ..."
I think the narrator affected my enjoyment too. At first it worked ok, but then I started to not like it so much.
I think the narrator affected my enjoyment too. At first it worked ok, but then I started to not like it so much.
I think this book may be one that needs to be read at the right time/mood. It was ok to me this time but certainly not the five-star level I had it marked previously.
I know many are not a fan of Phaedra, but I think she’s well-characterized. I like her better than Elliot, overall. Her mother seems to be modeled after Mary Wolstencraft, and so Phaedra is raised in those principals. I liked that cultural pressures forced change on her and that was struggle. I am not sure how I feel of all the conclusions. I think it ultimately doesn’t feel very triumphant due to it being a path Phaedra didn’t want and was forced down.
I know many are not a fan of Phaedra, but I think she’s well-characterized. I like her better than Elliot, overall. Her mother seems to be modeled after Mary Wolstencraft, and so Phaedra is raised in those principals. I liked that cultural pressures forced change on her and that was struggle. I am not sure how I feel of all the conclusions. I think it ultimately doesn’t feel very triumphant due to it being a path Phaedra didn’t want and was forced down.

Jan, after finishing the audiobook, I realized that the narrator doesn't change tone or cadence and that's why I didn't care for her. She's just like Justine Eyre in that way. I had to stop listening to any books by JE, because the dialogue in every scene, whether it was formal, intimate, or tender, sounded overly formal.
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Lessons of Desire by Madeline Hunter
Handsome, suave, and carnal as the devil, Lord Elliot Rothwell awaits readers in Lessons of Desire, bestselling author Madeline Hunter’s latest book in the Rothwell series and her most provocative novel to date. A man used to getting what he wants, Elliot is every woman’s most secret fantasy in the living flesh.
He first appears beneath her prison window as her savior—a sinfully attractive man whose charm and connections have ensured her release from an unjust arrest. But author and publisher Phaedra Blair quickly learns that the price of her “freedom” is to be virtually bound to her irresistible rescuer. For Elliot Rothwell didn’t come solely on a mission of goodwill. He came to extract a promise that Phaedra won’t publish a slanderous manuscript that could destroy his family’s name, and he’s not above bribery, threats, or bedding her to get his way. And with each erotic encounter raising the stakes between them, Elliot discovers he’s ever more reluctant to lose this sensual game…or the one woman who’s every bit his match.