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message 1: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments I had a problem adding a new book. It seems the isbn and cover picture have been taken for another title. The hard cover edition isbn has been taken by another book as well. I have added the book without isbn and without the cover photo either to avoid confusion, but I would very much like this error corrected so the book can take it´s proper place in the list.

Although this is an edition of 20,000 Leagues, it is "The definitive unabridged edition based on the original French texts/ newly translated and annotated by Walter James Miller and Frederick Paul Walter."
The isbn are: 1557508771, 0870216783(pbk)
First printing hard cover: isbn13- 9780870216787

It is a unique edition that should not be mixed up with various other versions.


message 2: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments The complete title of the book is:
Jules Verne´s 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea: the definitive unabridged edition based on the original French texts/newly translated and annotated by Walter James Miller and Frederick Paul Walter.


message 3: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments The hard cover isbn is attributed to this book found at amazon. obviously different isbn:
https://www.amazon.com/Leagues-Under-...


message 4: by Leilin (last edited Mar 06, 2021 06:14PM) (new)

Leilin (leilinbooks) | 1788 comments It is preferable to add a new edition of a book using the "add new edition" button so that it is created combined with its original work.

Also, if the ISBN is already taken and does not seem to be taken by the correct book (ex. by a book with a different cover), then we just need to create an alternate cover edition, for which there is a particular button to click too.

The ISBNs you give are from two distinct books and both already exist:

ISBN 10 = 1557508771 is here:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

ISBN13 = 9780870216787 and ISBN 10 = 0870216783
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...

Before adding a book, searching Goodreads by ISBN/ASIN, might yield better results!


message 5: by Leilin (last edited Mar 06, 2021 06:16PM) (new)

Leilin (leilinbooks) | 1788 comments Dawn wrote: "The hard cover isbn is attributed to this book found at amazon. obviously different isbn:
https://www.amazon.com/Leagues-Under-..."


Oh and this book on Amazon has a different ISBN than any you cited before and can be found on Goodreads here:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1...?


message 6: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments Thanks. I saw that the isbn and cover were correct later, which is weird because when I checked before, a different cover/book came up. This is great!

The only problem is, the title is wrong. This is what the main problem is. If that can be fixed, I´d be happy with deleting the new listing.


message 7: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments Also the translators are not listed. Is it possible to jist correct and add to the original listing somehow?


message 8: by Leilin (new)

Leilin (leilinbooks) | 1788 comments I believe the title correct as per Goodreads standards, actually. But someone else can chime in if I'm incorrect about this.

As for the translators, I actually see them on both of the links I provided above (and I corrected their order to match the cover on one of those entries)


message 9: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments Where are they? I do not see the translators mentioned anywhere, unless you mean the description? Actually, I wrote the translators names in the details when I created my listing but I cannot see them anywhere either so it must be a problem with layout. If they are there, they are not where everyone can see them without knowing where to look.

The title used at the links you provide is : 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
(Captain Nemo #1)
by Jules Verne

This would imply the edition has a sequel.
This edition I have in my hands clearly shows a different title(I wrote above), even in the Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data of the copyright page.
There is no mention of "Captain Nemo #1" anywhere even in the original french title noted.

How does this site differentiate all the editions that have deleted passages from the original and simplified it or even misrepresented it through erronious translation? Who did the translation is vital to choosing such a book (which I especially know and appreciate as a translator myself.)

I guess I will leave my new listing so people can find the book they are looking for at least.


Elizabeth (Alaska) Dawn wrote: "Where are they? I do not see the translators mentioned anywhere, unless you mean the description? Actually, I wrote the translators names in the details when I created my listing but I cannot see t..."

Are you using the beta version or the mobile app?


message 11: by Leilin (last edited Mar 07, 2021 07:16PM) (new)

Leilin (leilinbooks) | 1788 comments Where are they? I do not see the translators mentioned anywhere, unless you mean the description?
The translators are listed under the title, right next to the author's name. They are also clickable so you can see all works from a given translators, as you can do with authors... except if they don't appear in the app or new beta then, as Elizabeth was saying.
They definitely should not be put in the description of the book, in any case.

(Captain Nemo #1) [...] This would imply the edition has a sequel.
Series are not tied to editions but to the work itself. Captain Nemo appears in another book, which makes 20,000 Leagues part of a series - even if this particular edition was not tied to a particular edition of the sequel.
If you click on "(Captain Nemo #1)" on the book page, it will take you to the series page where all books making up that series are listed.

This edition I have in my hands clearly shows a different title(I wrote above), even in the Library of Congress Cataloging-in-Publication Data of the copyright page. There is no mention of "Captain Nemo #1" anywhere even in the original French title noted.
I still believe the title correct by Goodreads standards. Also note that "Captain Nemo #1" is not part of the title, it is only a mention of (and link to) the series, as described above.

How does this site differentiate all the editions that have deleted passages from the original and simplified it or even misrepresented it through erronious translation?
Editions that have a slightly different/updated/etc. content will reflect that in the description for that edition, on the book page. For example, those two entries I linked in message #4 clearly state that they are a new, corrected edition and distinct from the usual English translation.

I guess I will leave my new listing so people can find the book they are looking for at least.
Actually, I already queued your listing for deletion because it is a duplicate and those entries already exist. I understand you do not agree with the title handling, but that is still not a reason to keep duplicated entries.


message 12: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments Elizabeth (Alaska) wrote: "Dawn wrote: "Where are they? I do not see the translators mentioned anywhere, unless you mean the description? Actually, I wrote the translators names in the details when I created my listing but I..."
I was using google with my smartphone. I guess the mobile version cuts it. Now on the computer and can see it. Thanks for clarifying.
It is good to see! Thank you.


message 13: by Emily (new)

Emily | 17556 comments Can you tell me exactly which edition is the duplicate of the one that was created?
I'm preparing it to merge and want to make sure I have the correct edition first.


message 14: by Leilin (last edited Mar 16, 2021 12:26PM) (new)

Leilin (leilinbooks) | 1788 comments The duplicate is a mix of two editions actually (the two ISBN 10 referred to in msg #1). Here are the links to these two editions:
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3...


message 15: by Dawn (new)

Dawn | 8 comments The paperback edition would be the one I read.


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