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message 101: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments i was so confused when i saw cassie saying about the "letter game" on insta stories or on Twitter, not sure where. but when i saw on christine's insta page the letters, i got so invested after reading the first one haha


message 102: by Susan (new)

Susan (readers_are_leaders) | 20 comments Have you guys seen the The Chain of Iron Book Trailer? It mentions an unshakeable love becomes a hideous lie and a betrayal. Who do you think is being betrayed and who do you think is the traitor? Whose love could it mean when it says the love became a lie?


message 103: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments WAIT WUT I NEED TO GOOGLE THAT HANG ON


message 104: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I've been searching it for days and I haven't seen any book trailer yet


message 105: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments WHERE DID YOU FIND IT??? susan??


message 107: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments omg omg omg just saw!!


message 108: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments yeah I guess. it has the same writing the chain of gold trailer had


message 109: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments SOOOO i've seen people getting a boxes on instagram with a chain of iron arc and on the box there ws this quote "you never forget your first betrayal"

ahh what the hell is that supposed to mean?!?! *cries*

who betrays who?? please tell me james and lucie dont end up betraying annoying. im not that worried about cordelia since she is very loyal as seen in cog, but im more worried about James and lucie bc of their connection to belial


message 110: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I am too!! I think someone very close betrays them but I'm having a high doubt that the betrayal will be Tatiana's since she HAD allied with Belial against her own heritage/shadowhunters


message 111: by Susan (new)

Susan (readers_are_leaders) | 20 comments There is a slight chance that it is Cordelia because she has worn loyalty to a dangerous power. She could betrayed someone because of her oath to the mysterious power.


message 112: by Susan (last edited Feb 10, 2021 07:24AM) (new)

Susan (readers_are_leaders) | 20 comments I think the love turn into lies could be Cordelia and James. Cordelia and James' marriages is a lie .


message 113: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments mysterious power?? what are you talking about? I don't know that? wait. is this from first two chapters? I haven't read and don't wanna be spoiled


message 114: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments let's analyse every now, even though i suck at it

"All is not what it seems"
my immediate thought to this is no sh*t, but im also scared by this

"a killer stalks the streets of london"
this we are also told in the synopsis so we have another mystery which is fun

"An unshakable love becomes a hideous lie"
dammit, pelase tell me it's about james and grace and not james and cordelia *panicked*

"Secrets threaten lifelong friendships"
i feel like this is a lot about matthew and it coudl be lucie too since she does keep a lot of secrets from cordelia... but it could also kinda be anyone since all characters keep a lot of secrets...

"and the killer could be one of their one?"
we're also hinted in the synopsis that james could be the killer... hummmmm anyone theories? el, you have really good ones.. any ideas?



also i have a really strong theory that this book will break me, just wnated to let you know


message 115: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments OMG I FORGOT ABOUT THAT MYSTERIOUS POWER!! it's in the synopsis beenish btw


message 116: by Susan (new)

Susan (readers_are_leaders) | 20 comments I have a theory that the killer could be a Shadowhunter, but they are not working alone and is working with someone else who really is mostly in charge of the killing.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Lucy Tonks wrote: "let's analyse every now, even though i suck at it

"All is not what it seems"
my immediate thought to this is no sh*t, but im also scared by this

"a killer stalks the streets of london"
this we ar..."


ahah theory extraordinaire here !

Well I guess I'm gonna do an analysis like you did to get my brain working..

"An unshakable love becomes a hideous lie"

As some of you have mentioned, it doesn't make sense for this to be Cordelia and James since James doesn't know he loves her, and since their marriage is a lie. So.. Lucie and Jesse? This is supposed to be Lucie's book, her being on the cover suggests she'll have a larger role, and if Jesse gets resurrected but isn't himself, could it be considered a lie? Or what if Lucie does something awful to get him back, and doesn't tell him? Could this be the lie?

"Secrets threaten lifelong friendships"

For me my brain went James and Matthew right away. I think the Merry Thieves in general will have difficulty when James and Matthew both reveal their secrets to them.

"and the killer could be one of their one?"

for the killer, I think James is too obvious if he thinks it's him. I also think there's more than one, in the terms that Belial is definitely behind some of the killings, but Cordelia's oath may have her do something bad. And Tatiana needed 5 shadow hunters dead to get Jesse back... so what if Lucie figures this out and takes things into her own hands?

again, betrayal I think definitely has something to do with Jesse, but also someone they really trust.... another adult perhaps?


message 118: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I just strongly think the betrayal could be Tatiana's since she will be betraying the Shadowhunters.

but the second strong theory is definitely the secrets between James and Matthew. that's a very strong.

and thanks for telling me it's in the synopsis. I tried to get it out of my mind and didn't read it again so idk anything when I go into this book :)


message 119: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
I don’t think the betrayal is Tatiana betraying the shadowhunters, since she kinda already has, plus I feel like it’s one of the kids who’s gonna get betrayed. And the lifelong friendship I feel like is someone else, because James and Matthew have only been friends since they were like 13 and now they’re 17 so I don’t think it’s them.


message 120: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments seriously? who has a That Long friendship? I honestly can't think on it. the best friendship we know is Will and Jem and they're very honest and loyal to each other.


message 121: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments we also have to take into consideration that at the end of chain of gold in the epilogue belial says that jesse carries something important, that cod tie some way or another with thsoe lines....

wait could maybe jesse betray Tatiana? like she is still his mother... or maybe could lucie go to tatiana to help her ressurect jesse.. but she hates the herondale so she wouldnt accept her help

*screams* ok ok, we still have to wait 3 weeks for this to come out and then soem of our question will be answered... and then we will have to wait anither excruciatingly long year for chain of thorn


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Maybe the merry thieves as a whole? Since the cousins have been friends their entire life. It could be Lucie and Cordelia but I feel ithey both have secrets that they can understand


message 123: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments Cordelia's secret is the only one that is understandable and Matthew's. whatever these Herondale siblings are keeping as secrets from their parabatai/future parabatai are really big.

I mean, maybe for you grace-let isn't that big but it is for me and resurrection is small thing.


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments A mess of emotions rn bc of the recent letter reveals (Alastair to Thomas but none of them are sent)

Describing Thomas h
as Ridiculously tolerably handsome???
Starting a letter with ‘Look, you’ ??


Alastair - YOU HAVE A CRUSH DO YOU NOT???


message 125: by Nemesis (new)

Nemesis (opal_gemstone_954) | 24 comments ☀︎El In Oz☀︎ wrote: "A mess of emotions rn bc of the recent letter reveals (Alastair to Thomas but none of them are sent)

Describing Thomas h
as Ridiculously tolerably handsome???
Starting a letter with ‘Look, you’ ?..."

I felt that was quite obvious in the first book. Like, ridiculously obvious. They have these vibes.


message 126: by Nemesis (new)

Nemesis (opal_gemstone_954) | 24 comments And about the betrayal discussion, I just wish everybody would stop keeping so many secrets from their closest friends. That would make our lives so much easier😂


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Yeah I know it was obvious but like the way they both are denying it😭


message 128: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
the one thing ya books lack is communication but they wouldn't be ya books if characters communicated


message 129: by Nemesis (new)

Nemesis (opal_gemstone_954) | 24 comments ☀︎El In Oz☀︎ wrote: "Yeah I know it was obvious but like the way they both are denying it😭"
Don't despair, they'll come to their senses. Eventually.


message 130: by Nemesis (new)

Nemesis (opal_gemstone_954) | 24 comments Tessa wrote: "the one thing ya books lack is communication but they wouldn't be ya books if characters communicated"
So true🤣 but other genres also lack communication, though sometimes it's to an extent that I want to strangle everyone in the book and other time it's not that bad.



message 131: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments guys? are the letters spoiler for the book or do they have to be read in advance like the penultimate hours stories before cog?


message 132: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Beenish wrote: "guys? are the letters spoiler for the book or do they have to be read in advance like the penultimate hours stories before cog?"

I don't think they're spoilers or Cassie wouldn't post them


message 133: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Beenish wrote: "guys? are the letters spoiler for the book or do they have to be read in advance like the penultimate hours stories before cog?"

no you definitely dont have to read them before coi
also nah theyre not really spoilers for coi, altho ive only read two of them


message 134: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments ALSO I SAW THE TRAILER JUST RIGHT NOW AHHHHHHH

c h i l l s


message 135: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments hahaha god!! I can't wait to read you review Lia. I'm more excited to read that than the book lol.


message 136: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Beenish wrote: "hahaha god!! I can't wait to read you review Lia. I'm more excited to read that than the book lol."

AHAHA noooo the book is definitely 1000x times more amazing dsfgdsf literally so much happens it was impossible for me to mention them :' )

i hope my review doesnt disappoint haha😂


message 137: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments haha I know. still, I've decided not to read it as soon as i get coz I can't wait more than a year for the last book lol.

oh it won't XD


☀︎El In Oz☀︎ (elinoz) | 318 comments Lia I’m super excited for your review!! I know it’ll be a mix of screaming and crying and laughing so why wouldn’t we love it??


message 139: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments exactly


message 140: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments Beenish wrote: "haha I know. still, I've decided not to read it as soon as i get coz I can't wait more than a year for the last book lol.

oh it won't XD"


thats a smart move to make honestly

i could never do that😂


message 141: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments ☀︎El In Oz☀︎ wrote: "Lia I’m super excited for your review!! I know it’ll be a mix of screaming and crying and laughing so why wouldn’t we love it??"

YES LOTS OF SCREAMING, CRYING, FANGIRLING ETC


message 142: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments thank you guys🥺 i can't wait to see your reviews too ahhhh!!


message 143: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments https://www.instagram.com/p/CLKDbifgD...

excuse my language but what the fuck is this?!?!


message 144: by Lucy Tonks (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments i started reading the comments on that post and somebody said it could be Christopher... i will lose my s**t if that is matthew or james


message 145: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Lucy Tonks wrote: "https://www.instagram.com/p/CLKDbifgD...

excuse my language but what the fuck is this?!?!"


shiiiiiiiiiit


message 146: by Tessa (new)

Tessa Herondale~Carstairs (jessawessa) | 862 comments Mod
Lucy Tonks wrote: "i started reading the comments on that post and somebody said it could be Christopher... i will lose my s**t if that is matthew or james"

the only people I could see that being is james or Christopher... I feel like Matthew wouldn't say that? sounds too sober for him even if it's just one sentence, if that makes sense? holy shit


message 147: by May (new)

May (theladymidnight) IT BETTER NOT BE JAMES


message 148: by Lia (new)

Lia Carstairs (chainofnovels) | 212 comments *cackles*


message 149: by Beenish (new)

Beenish (beenishamir) | 324 comments I was just talking about it with my friend and we both just said the same. it better NOT be James.

he told Cordelia in chain of gold that once he makes a promise, he keeps it. so, I hope he KEEPS IT!

also, I was wishful thinking it might be Matthew sharing with one of the merry thieves or Cordelia or Lucie that he kissed Grace but the today made me give up on that thought.


message 150: by Lucy Tonks (last edited Feb 11, 2021 10:16AM) (new)

Lucy Tonks (the invisible life of a reader) | 239 comments Lia wrote: "*cackles*"

goddammit liaaaa

i swear ill get krizzie to come with me (and anybody who wants to come) to go steal your arc haha


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