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Yaroslav Barsukov | 2 comments Kristenelle wrote: "Thanks for explaining. :) It looks really interesting."

My pleasure--and thank you for your kind words!

Oleksandr wrote: "Hi Yaroslav, nice to have you in the group!"

Thank you, Oleksandr! Even though Tower is a novella, I thought it might be of interest to this group, too--it's uncharacteristically large for its category, totaling 37,000 words whereas a novel, as defined by the SFWA, starts at 40,000. This led to many publications, including Kirkus Reviews, to refer to the book as a "slim novel" :)


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*Tau* | 107 comments Nice to see you here too, Yaroslav 😄


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5537 comments Mod
Yaroslav wrote: "Even though Tower is a novella, I thought it might be of interest to this group, too--it's uncharacteristically large for its category"

I guess we may start a Buddy read in a filial group - SFF Hot from Printers: New Releases- you work is both hot and interesting for I guess at least several members. the member list of this group and the abovementioned largely overlap, but here we try limit ourselves to novels just because with our current pace of 2 monthly reads plus usually a few challenges, it ought to take over 10 years to read the existing novel nominees not even counting for all new appearing over that decade


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Kristenelle | 355 comments Antti wrote: "So during the years 2016–2020 there were 13 books in total that were both Hugo and Nebula nominees, which gives an average of 2,6 books per year."

Does 2,6 = just over two and a half? If so, I think I understand the source of my confusion now, haha. In the US we would us a period instead of a comma. I interpreted the comma to mean 2 and 6 rather than two and six tenths. 😅


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Antti Värtö (andekn) | 966 comments Mod
Kristenelle wrote: "In the US we would us a period instead of a comma. I interpreted the comma to mean 2 and 6 rather than two and six tenths. "

Ah, my mistake! It's really hard to remember that there are these kinds of different conventions in different languages. I'll try to keep this in mind the next time I have to write decimal numbers in English text!


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Leticia (leticiatoraci) Of these I really liked Mexican Gothic, Silvia Moreno-Garcia, The Midnight Bargain, C.L. Polk and Network Effect, Martha Wells.


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Philip (carrbear13) | 16 comments I had the same question, thanks for explaining, Yaroslav. I saw that it received a Kirkus starred review and noticed the publication date as being last month so I was confused. Congratulations on your nomination. :)


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Kristenelle | 355 comments Antti wrote: "Ah, my mistake! It's really hard to remember that there are these kinds of different conventions in different languages. I'll try to keep this in mind the next time I have to write decimal numbers in English text!."

Not at all! It is just an interesting cultural difference. I wouldn't be surprised if the US is the only country that uses periods for decimal points. We do like to be special snowflakes. :-P


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Ed Erwin | 902 comments Kristenelle wrote: "We do like to be special snowflakes. :-P ..."

I'm currently working on inernationalizing a computer program, so these differences are much on my mind. Luckily, the underlying platform handles most of the details, just like it does for time zones.

The most special snowflake seems to be Croatia which alternates commas and decimal points like this: 1,234.567,89 (In USA: 1,234,567.89)

China and India are also quite different. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal...


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Ed Erwin | 902 comments I notice that Finna was nominated for novella. Personally, I was unimpressed. But I didn't read any novellas this year, so maybe it was one of the better ones.


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Kristenelle | 355 comments Ed wrote: "Kristenelle wrote: "We do like to be special snowflakes. :-P ..."

I'm currently working on inernationalizing a computer program, so these differences are much on my mind. Luckily, the underlying p..."


Oh wow, that sounds like quite the task! I didn't realize there were so many variations out there!

Re: Finna....I didn't think it was that great. I liked a lot of things about it, but ultimately I felt it got boring after a while. I feel that there were better novellas out there.


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Gabi | 565 comments Ed wrote: "I notice that Finna was nominated for novella. Personally, I was unimpressed. But I didn't read any novellas this year, so maybe it was one of the better ones."

Nope, Finna read like a draft, but not like a final edit. Good ideas that went nowhere. I was very disappointed with it. But I must admit, that the only novella that I found award worthy was "The Stone Weta".


message 63: by Kateblue, 2nd star to the right and straight on til morning (new)

Kateblue | 4805 comments Mod
Kristenelle wrote: "I’m pretty unhappy with this list. I hope Piranesi wins. That is the only one I think deserves it."

Agree!

Kalin wrote: "I do think Piranesi is the exception to this, because Susanna Clarke seems to be like Ted Chiang: publishes very rarely but when they do people pay close attention."

My understanding is that she was ill and that's why she didn't write more.

Interesting discussion about H and N nominations possibly overlapping more. There's always something fun going on around here . . .


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Oleksandr Zholud | 5537 comments Mod
Kateblue wrote: "Interesting discussion about H and N nominations possibly overlapping more. There's always something fun going on around here . . ."

Quite likely that internet access made possible a greater connection between authors and readers and this strengthening groups, which vote (even without a prior agreement) for the same list.


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