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message 1: by Dufe (last edited Jan 12, 2021 03:38PM) (new)

Dufe | 25 comments This is a big one. And I'm not a librarian yet. I understand that books contain words or at least pictures or diagrams or information or artistry of some sort. These "books" seemingly contain nothing more than a large number of sheets of lined paper or matrices of dots, sandwiched between two flimsy covers. Unfortunately, they number in the thousands. The criteria for "not a book" include
* stationery
* diaries and blank books (unless containing additional content)
These descriptions of "not a book" seemingly match the results in the following searches:

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...

https://www.goodreads.com/search?utf8...

https://www.goodreads.com/author/show...

https://www.goodreads.com/search?q=Co...


Some of these searches possibly may contain a rare real book.


message 2: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
They actually need to be NAB'd (marked as non-book items), rather than deleted. Otherwise they will just re-import again.


message 3: by Suzi (new)

Suzi | 8661 comments Please edit this to move to the project folder and put each item in a specific post


message 4: by Arenda (last edited Jan 07, 2021 02:11PM) (new)

Arenda | 26447 comments If you could please add a number to the links in your post (and preferably also copy the search terms above the links).
The fifth link (State Love) has already been done by someone.


message 5: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 26447 comments Third link (Random Notebooks Publishing) is done


message 6: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 26447 comments Second link (Fffffairyyyy Publishing) is done


message 7: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 26447 comments First link (Christmas & Birthday G Publishing) is done


message 8: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments Sorry, forgot to add here that the fifth link was done.

I've been working on items in links four and six, but there are still thousands of notebooks left in them.


message 9: by Suzi (new)

Suzi | 8661 comments I have also been working on these. It is an ongoing issue as more are imported all the time.


message 10: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments Link six seems to be done by someone.


message 11: by Suzi (new)

Suzi | 8661 comments Camilla wrote: "Link six seems to be done by someone."

Sometimes when there are several edits, it takes the search function a while to catch up. An hour ago there were over 70,000 titles listed. I doubt they have been completed since then.


message 12: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments That's weird, I still get 0 results for link six. I did wonder about it, since there were a lot of books in it. Link four shows about 9,600 results.


message 13: by Arenda (new)

Arenda | 26447 comments Link 6 is to page 99 of the search results. You can manually change the page number in the URL (anywhere between 1 and 100). I randomly checked page 60 and page 70 and both have 1 book listed.


message 14: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments Thank you for the tip, Arenda! I hadn't realized that the link was to one page only, as the other ones were for the whole search result.


message 15: by Dufe (new)

Dufe | 25 comments I attempted to correct the sixth and final link, but it now only lists two non-books per page. I cannot explain this behavior. Nevertheless, examination of a selection shows only stationery, not legitimate books.


message 16: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments I've been working on both links 4 and 6 every day, but there are thousands of items. To my knowlegde there is no way to mass NAB the search result, they have to be worked on one publisher at a time.


message 17: by Suzi (new)

Suzi | 8661 comments Camilla wrote: "I've been working on both links 4 and 6 every day, but there are thousands of items. To my knowlegde there is no way to mass NAB the search result, they have to be worked on one publisher at a time."

There is not. And more are added daily.

As the site is heavily cached it takes a while for the search to catch up. I usually start about page 95 or so and work down, but even then it doesn't always work.


message 18: by Nyla (new)

Nyla Panzilius (nylap) | 18 comments I suspect that this one needs to be NAB. It looks like just a lined notebook without content to me. Can anyone else verify or offer an opinion?

Amanda Gorman: Notebook 6 X 9 Inch College Ruled Journal Soft Matte Cover. 2021 Inauguration Day Poet Notepad For Writing Poetry, School or Work.


message 19: by Suzi (new)

Suzi | 8661 comments Nyla wrote: "I suspect that this one needs to be NAB. It looks like just a lined notebook without content to me. Can anyone else verify or offer an opinion?

[book:Amanda Gorman: Notebook 6 X 9 Inch College Rul..."


Done


message 20: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments I've been working on these intermittently, but they never end.
One question: why is it that some book edit pages don't show the option of Mark as "not a book", even if the "book" doesn't have any adds? I get it that as I'm not a superlibrarian, I cannot NAB those items that have adds, but there are many without any adds as well. Here are a few examples:
Keep Calm and Listen To Mrs Hinch: Notebook/Journal/Diary For Mrs Hinch (Sophie Hinchliffe) Fans 6x9 Inches A5 100 Lined Pages High Quality Small and Easy To Transport
if you do not find easy answers may you find endless depth that reminds you in the waiting , you are far from finished yet. - Morgan Harper Nichols: notebook / journal Blank Lined Ruled 6x9 120 Pages
Cuddle Slut: Adult Journal Notebook 120 lined pages 6.44" x 9.69" BDSM DDLG ABDL


message 21: by Lieke (new)

Lieke | 4925 comments When people have shelved a book that option disappears.


message 22: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments Lieke wrote: "When people have shelved a book that option disappears."

Okay, so for NABbing there is not the same limit as with merging (5 adds)? Is the only option for these to refer them to the superlibrarians' thread?


message 23: by Lieke (last edited Feb 16, 2021 07:26AM) (new)

Lieke | 4925 comments I think you can still NAB the book just not the easy way. But I'm not sure what to do when you don't have a book to merge it in...

https://help.goodreads.com/s/article/...


message 24: by Camilla (new)

Camilla | 339 comments Lieke wrote: "But I'm not sure what to do when you don't have a book to merge it in..."

Yes, that's what I'm unsure of.

Luckily, most of these "authors" only have empty notebooks, so it's possible to NAb the whole author. But then there are some with one or two pesky coloring books among 50+ notebooks. Aaargh!

BTW, the link in the article about NABbing in item 1. b ("Follow the instructions for merging two identical editions...) is wrong, it actually leads to the info about combining, not merging.


message 25: by rivka, Former Moderator (new)

rivka | 45177 comments Mod
Most merges start with a combine.


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