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message 1: by Marcel (new)

Marcel Jones  | 32 comments Line 1 - There were moments in Odion's life when he had to decide whether or not to murder his twin brother.

Line 2 - Odion couldn't remember the last time he hadn't contemplated murdering his twin brother.


message 2: by Mandy (new)

Mandy Schimelpfenig (mandy_schimelpfenig) line 2


message 3: by Padmini (new)

Padmini Sankar | 9 comments Definitely the second option.


message 4: by Hermann (new)

Hermann | 7 comments I like the first option better. You can remove the 'or not' to make it simpler. According to Hemingway editor Line 2 is considered a sentence that's hard to read, and I agree. I have to think about 'couldn't' and 'hadn't' and it's a little confusing.


message 6: by J.R. (new)

J.R. Alcyone | 315 comments Neither.

I think the idea/concept you're getting across is good. Just neither of these do it for me.

As for the first, I'm not a fan of the "there were" or "there was" construction if it can be avoided.

I like the second one better, but it is confusingly worded. I agree with Hermann that the problem is the negatives -- the couldn't and the hadn't. I had to stop and read the sentence twice to get its meaning.


message 7: by GreenGal (new)

GreenGal Marcel wrote: "Line 1 - There were moments in Odion's life when he had to decide whether or not to murder his twin brother.

Line 2 - Odion couldn't remember the last time he hadn't contemplated murdering his tw..."


Answer: Line 2


message 8: by Eisah (last edited Dec 23, 2020 03:53PM) (new)

Eisah Eisah | 6 comments Line 1. I think either line could work with some tweaking, but in their current forms I prefer the first line because it comes across more clearly to me.

Also, I think they have different tones. If you want something more playfully morbid, I think line 1 more eccentric. Line 2 comes off as more of a character who thinks of nothing but murder.

So I would tweak line 1 if you're going with a character who sometimes just thinks, "I really want to kill that guy," and something more like line 2 if your character is obsessively plotting how to kill that guy.


message 9: by Megan (new)

Megan Danvers | 74 comments line 2 grabs the attention more imo.


message 10: by Marcel (new)

Marcel Jones  | 32 comments J.R. wrote: "Neither.

I think the idea/concept you're getting across is good. Just neither of these do it for me.

As for the first, I'm not a fan of the "there were" or "there was" construction if it can be ..."


Understood. That is a common error many have pointed out; the double negatives. Thank you for sharing your input as I will look to fixing these mistakes.


message 11: by Alex (last edited Dec 24, 2020 11:11PM) (new)

Alex | 200 comments Line one is easier to understand, but it says something much different from line two. Which meaning is true of your character? If line two is true, is there a simpler way to say it? If there is a simpler way, is it more powerful than the original construction? I think line two is quite strong. The second negative intensifies the first. As far as I know, the rule about double negatives applies to two negatives in one clause (I don't got no money.), not two negatives distributed over two clauses. Line two has two clauses. There's also context to consider. Is this a genre in which every sentence and word must be understood without effort or dictionary?


message 12: by Justin (new)

Justin (justin_doyle) | 10 comments Line 2, but to fix the clarity issue, may consider something like:

Odion only remembered a few days in his life where he hadn't contemplated murdering his twin brother.

That could launch you into a few short good memories before getting into why he needed to kill him.


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