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message 51: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments Glad for you Joanne.


message 52: by Robin P (last edited Nov 04, 2020 04:18PM) (new)

Robin P | 5809 comments Joi wrote: "Great Victories:
-Colorado rejected anti-abortion measure
-First openly black gay man in congress
-First openly transgender women as a state senator
-Missouri elected a BLM Leader and Activist as ..."


If I were younger or if I didn't have family here, I would seriously think about moving to another country. Even if the presidency comes through, it is so painful to see how many people support cruelty and selfishness.


message 53: by Rachel N. (new)

Rachel N. | 2249 comments I'm glad Michigan has gone to Biden but some of the news from Detroit of people trying to push their way into the counting center is disturbing. There are over 100 republicans,100 democrats and 100 nonpartisans in there watching the count and making challenges as it is. Thanks Joi for reminding us of some of the good news. This isn't over yet but I'm praying for good news come morning.

Meanwhile Michigan reported over 4,000 new covid cases today which is scary. Appointment about the pacemaker for my fiance is Friday and if he does need one we're both going to push to get it done as soon as possible.


message 54: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Book Concierge wrote: "CNN has now called MICHIGAN for Biden...."

That's good to hear!

Still disconcerting how many people voted for him, though. :'(


message 55: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Joi wrote: "Had a small freak out today (I may have googled how to move to Madrid),..."

They are great victories, and LOL!


message 56: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) All we need is Nevada. It would be nice to have more states, but Nevada makes 270 exactly. *crosses fingers*

I’m disconcerted with the Orange Malignant Toad’s tweets of voter fraud and election rigging on Twitter. I’ve gotten to the point that I just can’t watch anymore because I’m having too many panic attacks over this falderal.


message 57: by Sallys (new)

Sallys | 694 comments I'm obssessed. Glued to MSNBC. Last night I was really scared. When he won Wisconsin the sun came out again.


message 58: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Rachel N. wrote: Meanwhile Michigan reported over 4,000 new covid cases today which is scary. Appointment about the pacemaker for my fiance is Friday and if he does need one we're both going to push to get it done as soon as possible.

Good! My fingers are crossed! Be insistant! You have our stories confirming how straightforward the surgery is.


message 59: by Theresa (last edited Nov 04, 2020 11:26PM) (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments I found the best coping mechanism to survive the most critical election of my lifetime: overwork. I have had 2 nonstop days going from early to late. Meant a complete news, social media and private emails blackout until late each evening. By then, after 2 minutes my brain just could not make sense of what it was hearing and seeing. Thus, Hallmark Christmas Movies was the optimal diversion!

Like so many, I am completely disheartened on what this election confirms: half the country supports a man who is literally stealing their lives from them - in every sense of the word 'lives'. It is like there is a mass Stockholm Syndrome at work.

These last few days, I keep thinking we are witnessing another Civil War, 21st Century style. But that doesn't explain how this same thing is also playing out all over the globe - Brexit in UK, challenge to Merkle in Germany at last election, Canada, France, Australia - either in the leader or parliament/Senate or both. I just don't see how you really improve your lot by relocating to another country, as a friend did in last couple of months. Unless by just being a resident in another country and not a citizen, you don't have a vested interest in the politics there, are not sufficiently connected. And for most, income and investments and work still are connected to the US.

But then, I also live and work in the heart liberal Democratic blue Manhattan.


message 60: by Robin P (new)

Robin P | 5809 comments Apparently half the country looked around and said, "I want 4 more years of this!"

Everything Biden proposes will be blocked in the Senate, then they will blame him for not doing more. Still I am feeling better than last night.


message 61: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12953 comments Thank you to Michigan and Wisconsin for helping us pull this out. Yesterday was a rough day, even and maybe especially for the Queen of Faith. Read an extraordinary book at just the right time.

If history has taught us anything, it's that we need to learn, and connect, and be inspired by one another. I'm grateful to this group of extraordinary people for supporting each other through life's celebrations and challenges, large and small, and for being a collective. A source of friendship, resilience, and hope.


message 62: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12651 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "All we need is Nevada. It would be nice to have more states, but Nevada makes 270 exactly. *crosses fingers*

I’m disconcerted with the Orange Malignant Toad’s tweets of voter fraud and election ri..."


Thank you Jenni-I love new words and falderal is a new one for me!


message 63: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12651 comments The outlook looks brighter. When I saw PA moving to Biden I breathed a little easier...I have a BFF in Bucks county (originally from Michigan) we were sending that white light Amy always talks about across the miles to each other. Seems to be working.

The worst is yet to come, I fear. Now that Orange Man has built his wall around the White House, will he barricade himself in there?

Although Michigan as a whole came through, my area went Trump 58-42-it disgusts me. Also it looks like our State House will go Red, the State Senate, still unsettled.


message 64: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl Coppens | 601 comments Like everyone else here feeling very anxious and jittery. How has our country ended up where we are? I've been trying to stay busy and not be obsessive about watching results. It's not working! I'm with all of you saying this is now beyond politics and about the morality of our country. There is just nothing good about the orange man. He's just a terrible human being. Worried about our country in these times.


message 65: by Meli (new)

Meli (melihooker) | 4165 comments Joi wrote: "Great Victories:
-Colorado rejected anti-abortion measure
-First openly black gay man in congress
-First openly transgender women as a state senator
-Missouri elected a BLM Leader and Activist as ..."


I definitely keep trying to remind myself of these equally important shifts in our political landscape! Thank you for sharing :)


message 66: by Theresa (last edited Nov 05, 2020 04:06PM) (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Ultimately to change on a national level, you have to start on the local level. And I mean the village, town, and county level. Then the States. Then the federal. Every gain made leads to an eventual gain at the next level. It is slow, but it is also what the GOP spent decades doing. And why we have this mess. In part.


message 67: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12651 comments Been sitting reading, with MSNBC going on Mute on the TV. Poor Steve Kornacki, he looks a wreck-LOL.

It is so pitiful that the Attorney Generals and Sec. of State, in so many States, have had to come out and give statements today, apologizing for delays, but wanting all to know that they are ensuring every vote is counted-Does anyone remember a time that we ever had to have such assurances? Isn't that always what Democracy has been about?


message 68: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) And, they assuring that there’s no voter fraud since the Orange Malignant Toad is crying fraud every second. Of course he wouldn’t lose unless the election is rigged. *rolls eyes*


message 69: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12151 comments I can't settle down enough to do anything.


message 70: by Robin P (new)

Robin P | 5809 comments Theresa wrote: "Ultimately to change on a national level, you have to start on the loval level. And I mean the village, town, and county level. Then the States. Then the federal. Every gain made leads to an eventu..."

You're right, they played the long game, the same with judges. Dems are at a disadvantage in being principled. Although Democrats have done gerrymandering in the past, they mostly now favor putting in nonpartisan groups to do this. But Republicans still are happy to use the system. There weren't any particular gains in statehouses. This is a problem in states like mine (Wisconsin) where the district lines make it virtually impossible for Democrats to be proportionally represented even with majorities.


message 71: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Jenni Elyse wrote: "And, they assuring that there’s no voter fraud since the Orange Malignant Toad is crying fraud every second. Of course he wouldn’t lose unless the election is rigged. *rolls eyes*"

Ha! Exactly...


message 72: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Completely changing course here - someone had a son's wedding ...did we ever get a report?

Sorry, brain fried and quivering over fact it still has one more day it has to function.


message 73: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12953 comments Well, in non-covid and non-election related news, Jaden applied to his seventh college today (out of ten). This one I think was his first choice. Later he wrote to three of the reps, including choice one lady. And while he did that, I was listening to Friday night services, and they had my favorite (and my father's favorite) prayer blasting in the background - Schechiyanu - prayers for blessing and gratitude. For firsts (He's my first), for thanking God for creating us, sustaining us, and bringing us to this day, this moment. Thats the whole prayer and song. I felt the power. This is the school he wants - that feels like home to him. Keep your prayers up for everything and everyone everywhere that things turn out right. Have the feeling there will be some good old celebrations this weekend.

One last thing - Theresa, I am hearing that the Strand needs help. Saw it on Facebook. Can you get down there? For everyone else, if you need a book, please consider ordering it from the Strand in NYC lower east side. 100 year old bookstore in trouble, and people are coming out to support it.


message 74: by Theresa (last edited Nov 06, 2020 07:10PM) (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Amy wrote: "Well, in non-covid and non-election related news, Jaden applied to his seventh college today (out of ten). This one I think was his first choice. Later he wrote to three of the reps, including choi..."

Amy - Sorry to say I am done with the Strand. I have had very bad experiences recently and during 2019 with orders at the Strand and my in store experiences have not been great either pre-COVID - it is a tourist trap now. I know it is sacrilege to criticize the store. They no longer have the deals and finds they used to...long before COVID. Now they owe me a couple of expensive books or a refund and I am getting empty promises and a runaround. The Strand isn't just a victim of COVID. It has all the appearance of a business badly run for a very long time. No more support from me.

There are a ton of small bookshops in NYC old and new struggling to survive that give fabulous service - stores like Books Are Magic, Greenlight, Three Lives, Book Culture, Astoria Book Shop, and most of all Kew & Willow which embraces diversity that is experiencing a hate campaign and vandalism requiring expensive repairs. The store is in the Queens area abutting Nassau County which is not Democratic Liberal. Here's some info on what is happening there: https://www.thepetitionsite.com/734/8....


message 75: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12953 comments So interesting Theresa to see a fuller picture!

Thinking so much about NYC. Used to be we would spend 5 days there every Thanksgiving Weekend. Had breakfast at Sarge's Deli and restaurant or Moonstruck on Thanksgiving Morning. Not this year.


message 76: by Sallys (new)

Sallys | 694 comments Oh Amy. I love New York. I lived there until I was 35. After moving to Bayside I would go in once a week if possible, first with my kids, then to meet my sisters, But I have really not been there since March ( only one day to visit my sister) And sadly, I have no desire to go now. It's just not the sale. After visiting my sister my husband and I stopped in the Village for Mamouns falafel and I was so turned off by the crows and people sitting almost on top of each other. So sad.


message 77: by Jgrace (new)

Jgrace | 3958 comments Theresa wrote: "Completely changing course here - someone had a son's wedding ...did we ever get a report?

Sorry, brain fried and quivering over fact it still has one more day it has to function."


It was my son.

Sorry not to update. A little brain fried here as well.

The wedding was eventful ( the bride's grandmother fell 'down the hatch' of the chartered yacht. Fortunately not seriously injured, but the story is already passing into family history) and ultimately beautiful . Two weeks on, I can also report that all are virus free. Given a true lack of preventative practices that's another small miracle.


message 78: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments A blessing, JGrace! And may the grandma saga supercede the wedding being during pandemic in family history!


message 79: by Booknblues (new)

Booknblues | 12151 comments Woo Hoo!
So happy right now!


message 80: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Cheers and horns on the streets of my UWS neighborhood. A palpable feeling of relief and hope. A thick glass ceiling shattered. Has 2020 finally turned the corner?


message 81: by Rachel N. (new)

Rachel N. | 2249 comments I saw the election results and started crying tears of joy. I've never reacted like that to a presidential election before. I know there will be legal fights ahead but I have faith we will have a new president in January.


message 82: by Joi (new)

Joi (missjoious) | 3970 comments I literally started dancing. SUCH RELIEF.


message 83: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) I’m so happy! I wish I could send this message with confetti!


message 84: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12651 comments @Rachel-My daughter and I sat and hugged each other and also cried. Such a relief of emotions that have held us all and stressed us all so much!


message 85: by Johanne (new)

Johanne *the biblionaut* | 983 comments Congratulations!! So happy for you (and the rest of us)!! <3


message 86: by Jgrace (new)

Jgrace | 3958 comments The inauguration can't come soon enough!


message 87: by Jenni Elyse (new)

Jenni Elyse (jenni_elyse) Amen, Jgrace. I’m glad the Secret Service is stepping up their security of Biden and Harris. I’m worried someone’s going to try to assassinate him before he can be sworn in or even after he is what with all the MAGAts out there.


message 88: by Amy (new)

Amy | 12953 comments Dancing, clapping, crying, phone blowing up! True celebration. Now it’s time for the healing to begin.


message 89: by april k (new)

april k (lilmrscap) | 3 comments April here...I don't mean to bother but..I'm so so happy joe won. me and my family live in California but we had to move up to northern California and is so different for SoCal..its been so hard and I'm not saying Biden x Kamala will make it better but as a Poc I'm thankful for the baby steps :)


message 90: by Cheryl (new)

Cheryl Coppens | 601 comments Woo Hoo! I am hoping this means a return to kindness and co-operation!


message 91: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments What great news this afternoon! Truly historic!

I will keep wearing my pearls each day until there is confirmation.

As an aside ... the Nasty Women of Wisconsin facebook page is starting a campaign to send pacifiers to the Orange Baby in the White House ....


message 92: by Theresa (new)

Theresa | 15664 comments Book Concierge wrote: "What great news this afternoon! Truly historic!

I will keep wearing my pearls each day until there is confirmation.

As an aside ... the Nasty Women of Wisconsin facebook page is starting a campai..."


That is PRICELESS!


message 93: by Sallys (new)

Sallys | 694 comments YAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!


message 94: by LibraryCin (new)

LibraryCin | 11722 comments Even from Canada, I have to say this is a huge relief (though I know there are Albertans who wouldn't agree with me, sadly...)


message 95: by Robin P (new)

Robin P | 5809 comments april k wrote: "April here...I don't mean to bother but..I'm so so happy joe won. me and my family live in California but we had to move up to northern California and is so different for SoCal..its been so hard an..."

On that subject, if you haven't seen it, look up the video of Van Jones from CNN who broke down talking about what it's been like these 4 years and how glad he is he can now give his kids more hope in America.


message 96: by Miriam (new)

Miriam | 112 comments I think, many people around the world are relieved. Definitely here in Germany we are!


message 97: by Joanne (new)

Joanne (joabroda1) | 12651 comments I taped the festivities last night and just watched the speeches. That, my friends, is what a President sounds like. I admit, I finally broke down and cried those tears of joy. As the Mayor of Paris tweeted yesterday "Welcome Back America"!


message 98: by Hilde (new)

Hilde (hilded) | 472 comments Very happy for you all in the US, and for the rest of the world 🙌🏻 It’s been a long, nervewrecking week for sure.


message 99: by Meli (new)

Meli (melihooker) | 4165 comments It's amazing to see all the people dancing and celebrating in the streets. How much of a giant douche to you have to be for the world to celebrate you getting fired?

He doesn't have to conceded, and he can count those votes until the cows come home, but it's over. Still, I will continue to be a little weary until Biden is sworn in officially.

A female Vice President!? Are you kidding!? And Black and South Asian?? Holy shit, amazing!

How can you scream 'Make America Great Again' and 'Keep America Great' while also shouting to stop counting votes and keep a straight face... the irony, I will never understand.


message 100: by Book Concierge (new)

Book Concierge (tessabookconcierge) | 8442 comments Robin P wrote: "On that subject, if you haven't seen it, look up the video of Van Jones from CNN who broke down talking about what it's been like these 4 years and how glad he is he can now give his kids more hope in America...."

Brought me to tears. I've seen it a couple of times now.


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