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Ok I might have cheated a little and read this book in September ( but only like 2 days ago ok). And I think by this time I knew whodunnit. I think it's quite obvious.
I think I have it figured out. I hope not because I really don't try to make any effort at all, I just want to enjoy the book. I like the set up so far. It is not sucking me in as quickly as I had hoped but I am looking forward to it picking up soon.
At this point, the culprit is VERY obvious—I feel like the book literally tells you who it is on p.220 (hardcover edition), unless there's another twist coming...Ignoring the existence of character Kate (booking agent) is a pretty glaring plot hole for me, she could've sent help to the chalet since she's aware of the staff and guest in each chalet.
Is it bad that at this point I was seriously more interested in who was following Erin on the app?
Struggling to continue. Unless there’s another BANG of a twist I’m finding myself not wanting to pick this up or speed read an audio! To get it painfully over with
By this point the book seems to be targeting it to be one person. I was always suspicious of that character from the beginning. I wasn’t making any predictions while reading. Just following along like okay this person dead, now here’s the twist. Mainly just catching the major plot points. So far this story is very linear to storytelling (which isn’t always so bad). I wasn’t loving this from the beginning & my mood hasn’t changed. Peaked slightly because things are happening now. I don’t hate just don’t rlly care for. The only thing I’m assuming is because they’ve targeted this one character as being the culprit this early on & there’s still hours left of the book (listening to audio) that there may be another twist towards the end. You know how like when stories pin this one character fairly early on? Unless the rest of the book is just finding a way to get away from said murderer. Idk I guess I’m just hoping I didn’t figure this out from the beginning without even trying.
I agree that right now the book has been setting up one character from the start, and I’m not sure how I feel about it. It depends on how it resolves. If I had to rate this now, it’s probably a four. It could steeply drop to a two though if this isn’t handled well.
Enjoying it, but the killer seems quite obvious. Hoping there’s a twist soon to knock us off our game!
I hope there's a huge twist because otherwise the killer is super obvious. Erin discusses working for the chalet as an employee, not as the owner, so someone somewhere knows Erin is there with a group of techie millionaires. That kind of shoots the entire plot point of needing to go get help in the foot doesn't it? People know they're there, people obviously know there's been an avalanche. They talk about Inigo making or not making that phone call as if without it no one in the world will know to come rescue them. Of course, it's a bit more dire now that they've started killing each other off but that attitude was there before the discovery that Eva is dead.
Another small thing that has confused me throughout is that Ware made a big deal of pointing out in the beginning that when you are offline, all your snoopers get disconnected from you. Why do Erin's chapters consistently start by saying she's offline and has 5 snoopers? If she's offline, shouldn't zero people be snooping her? Maybe that doesn't mean what I think it means.
My suspicion is that Eva is still alive, and maybe she's the killer. Maybe she contacted Inigo and they're working together? Or maybe this was Eva and Liz's plan all along? I dont know, what do you guys think?
I'm on page 155. I don't have any real concrete feelings yet other than to say that I find Liz to be annoying and I find Erin to be too presumptuous. I don't dislike Erin, per se, but I found myself getting annoyed when she was thinking about Snoop and it's employees in great detail as if she has any idea about any of it. She's the staff. So I thought Ware went too far with Erin and her ideas about Snoop. I also found it annoying when she kept pushing the fact that Eva is dead. Regardless of the GPS coordinates, there is no way she could possibly know that and she shouldn't have told everyone that as if it were fact. I'm not blown away by this book or anything. It's been kind of slow. I hope it picks up soon. I'll check back in when I reach 250 👍🏻. (I noticed I used the word annoying a lot. It's a pretty apt description so far.)
I'm having a great time with this book. Yes I feel it's obvious where the story is going (I hope i'm wrong though)
I'm hoping for shocking twist and reveals. If the ending is good I'll probably give it 5 stars.... but I got a feeling that that's no going to happen so I suspect I'll give it 4 stars.
I’m honestly not sure what’s happening.I mean I have my hunches and they are usually right (especially with Ware), but the book is still enjoyable.
I’m mostly thinking right now is this going to turn into a run around and hide from the killer book or what?
We know from the beginning that 4 people die and 2 are injured enough to need hospitalization, so only 2 more people die. Unless Eva and Inigo are really dead.
I am unsure how much I like the book. I am always this way with Ware books so far. But it’s enjoyable. I just wish this author wrote characters that were like-able a little more, but that’s me. I honestly don’t care about a single character so if they all died I wouldn’t mind.
@Elise Lost But Found - gimpy chase around. 😂 I can’t. That might make the book completely worth it! 🤣
Do you have any theories to share?I think it is too obvious to be Liz. I think that it is Eva. I think she threw her phone over the edge so people would think she died and then she snuck back and was slowly killing people. Im not sure the motive but I really don't believe she is dead, it seems to convenient that she would die and then there is an avalanche. I do like the theory that it is Miranda, BUT what is the motive???
What do you hope happens in the final third?
I hope we find out what happened to Eva. Also I really like Danny so I hope he makes it back. I think that at least one other person is going to die based on the beginning news article. I think this because it says 4 die, and at this point they all think 3 people are dead, but like I said I am not totally convinced Eva is dead, so 2 other people could be killed. I am not counting (Indigo in this but he could be the 4th dead but that's just a boring plot line if he just leaves and freezes to death) I don't think Erin or Liz will die because I know they are the 2 perspectives we get the whole book, and because if either of them is the killer then they are dumb to kill each other when they are the only ones there. Too obvious and not a smart plan to not get caught.
If you had to rate this right now, what does it get?
I would give it a 3 star rating, which it will stay at if my predictions are correct (Eva isn't dead and she is killing everyone) and it doesn't get more interesting. It could go up if it gets more exciting and also if my prediction is correct and it is done well. If its Liz just killing for revenge then I will probably rate it 3 or 2 stars because that's just boring.
Trinity wrote: "Is it bad that at this point I was seriously more interested in who was following Erin on the app?"I was under the impression that it was Danny following her since there was the scene where he saw her username and commented on it but then wouldn't give her his. towards the beginning of the book
I haven't gotten to thinking of theories just reading as I go. But now about this key? Trying to figure out who must have had it!Hoping for a twist because I dont think we've gotten that yet.
Rating I'm around 3.75-4 stars
Not going to lie, at this point I'm listening to the audiobook as I read at such a high speed I kind've am missing some stuff. It's just,,, kinda boring. Idk if this is just how these types of books are, but I feel like the whole book is just them theorizing who it could be without any real clues?? I have my suspicion on who it is but that does seem kind've obvious even with me reading over some of the clues....
I enjoyed the second part of the book a lot more than the first one. I also believe it is quite obvious who's the killer unless there's a plot twist at the final part.I hope we find out what happened to Eva and Inigo.
So far I like this book and if I had to rate it now I would give it 4 stars.
I'm enjoying this one but I agree with it being kinda obvious who the killer is. If it is someone else, it will be a big plot twist to me because I'm very fixated on this idea. I hadn't thought about the plot hole of people knowing that they're there and not sending for help. it is bothering me now lol. I also felt like the Erin plot twist was lame. Don't know why. I just didn't like it.
I'm very intrigued by the snoop info at the beginning of the chapters, specially Liz's. I hope it makes some sense into the story, the fact that she has that one follower or why it took so long for Erin's snoopers to go to zero.
I would give this 4 stars so far, maybe 3.5 if I'm proven right.
I think it’s going to end up being Topher 🤷🏻♀️
Anyone actually kinda sad about Elliott, he was the most interesting character to me
I don't think it's Liz. I think there's a few possibilities (forgive me if these are obvious. I am new to thrillers lmao)1) Liz was roped in as an accomplice to Topher (or Eva if she's actually alive and doing this) and did steel the key to help him.
2) someone else is the killer and planted the key on Liz.
3) Liz stole the key for other reasons (maybe searching in people's rooms?)
Those are the only I can legit think of. But I'm often wrong in thrillers and I'm so hoping that there is a twist I don't see coming. I will say, even if the answer is obvious, I do tend to enjoy Ware's books, especially her newer ones from The Death of Mrs. Westaway and on. This book is also catered exactly to a trope I love, closed circle mysteries. I need more books with this trope so badly. I absolutely love "An Unwanted Guest" by Shari Lapena for the same reason.
I think I may end up rewatching Clue tonight because of this book. I just love spooky mysteries in hotels and resorts disconnected from society.
Theories. Was wrong with my first two assumptions. So, now I think we are left with Liz or Eva. I'm not entirely sure Eva is dead. I feel like Liz is too obvious at this point for it to be her. 4 people were dead according to the news article, we are already up to 4 unless Eva truly isn't. I'm thinking that the killer will actually be the one that gets killed. Rating. It's stronger than I thought it would be given all of the mixed reviews I've seen. I'm sitting at about a 4 right now.
For me it was obvious from the start that Liz went there with some sort of a plan unrelated to the buyout - it sounded like she didn`t know about it. It is so obvious that she`s the most suspicious person that it became too obvious. Could it be that in the last third we get a surprise twist? Eva not being dead? Maybe - or we just get a motive finaly revealed and the big rescue. I said it before and stand by it - either Eva will pop up alive, or we`ll see her corpse. Anyway - I`m quite certain that Liz was the one Ani saw in Eva`s red jacket (she bought it for her, so she could get similar/same one and wear it under her oversized suit).
Honestly I would take any twist to make this more complicated, but preferably something that is satisfying and make sense. Not that I hate this book, I still enjoy it, but it irritates me how obvious the answer is. The Guest List was also predictable and I loved that. This book annoys me.
So far 4/5 stars and depending on the ending it will fall or rise.
Love it 5 stars! So happy that it wasn’t Topher!!
Okay, well... all I can say is if Liz isn't the psycho killer then I'll be very confused as to how things shape out in the final third. I already picked up on some weird vibes (Norman Bates-like lol) from her inner thoughts in the first third, and this section just confirmed that I think she's definitely the one killing every one. At the same time though, it seems too obvious if that's what is actually happening.I still think Eva is alive. I'm always suspicious of deaths in thrillers with no body. Maybe she's the killer? I'm pretty sure Inigo is dead, but we'll see.
Very curious about Liz's sole "Snoopscriber" as well. Hard to rate at the moment, probably a 3.5? Thriller ratings really depend on the plot twists for me, and how realistically believable they are.
I mean, I’ve felt really confident for a while now that the culprit is Liz. And honestly if it does turn out to be her, I don’t think I’ll mind? I’ve been entertained thus far :) this is still a solid read for me.
Michelle wrote: "Love it 5 stars! So happy that it wasn’t Topher!!"I'm guessing that's a spoiler?
Ok by this point, the book really reminded me of The Guest List. Similar short chapters, multi characters with questionable past.Do you have any theories to share?
I still think Liz is pregnant because I haven’t seen anything that contradicts it in this part. Also, I’m guessing Liz is the killer by this point, because of a few indications:
1. When everyone heard Ani told Innigo she saw Eva skiing down the slope, she could’ve realised that it wouldn’t take long before Ani realised it wasn’t Eva that she saw, so she did have opportunity to steal the keys and when Ani said she realised she saw something not right, she could use the keys. I reckon it was Liz who skied down, not Eva.
2. She went down in the bubble lift, but it didn’t seem to be questioned by people. Did people really see her or they just assumed?
3. As Erin said about Miranda, it would be easy to fake inability to ski.
4. When Erin said the guilt of causing people’s death changed her, she almost agreed with her but refrained because ‘it would be crazy’. I took it as it would be crazy to admit her crime.
5. I’m guessing she faked the fall to injure her knees on purpose so she wouldn’t have to walk outside in the snow. Perhaps because she wanted to be seen less in the snow (to fake her skill), or perhaps because she was pregnant and wouldn’t be able to walk for 6 hours, or perhaps she wanted to be alone in the resort to do something.
6. She definitely could be the one dropping the keys between the cushions.
What do you hope happens in the final third?
If my guess was right and the whodunnit would be revealed soon (rather than on the last page), I’m hoping to see thrilling action scenes in the third part so that even though it’s no longer a mystery, it can still be a thriller.
If you had to rate this right now, what does it get?
3.5 stars, but can still change to 4 depending on what happens in the third part.
I actually still enjoyed this. I had to stop myself reading to write this now, but I can’t wait to continue. It’s such a fast read!
I think the killer is pretty obvious at this. I want a very shocking unbelievable ending that will have me at the edge of my seat. I would rate this book 3.5 stars right now, hopefully the ending will get at least 4 stars
It’s hard for me to go back and try to remember my theories. I actually forgot to add comments at 250 and now I’m at 307. Don’t want to reveal any spoilers so I’ll just say I was kind of surprised but I’m still enjoying the book. Wondering if Eva is alive, which would be kind of a interesting turn. And where the heck is I I go? Super dumb if he is just a human popsicle somewhere. I’ll finish It tonight I think. I’d give it 3.5/5
ok, so is it Liz? I don't think Eva is dead any still think someone else was skiing down the hill. And if Eva and Inigo are not dead, then 2 more people will die. ok so Liz got one Snoopsscriber suddenly. who sings the truth Elliot, because the next morning is when I found something out on his computer.
And has anybody notice that in between Erin has five snoopers than zero than five. Hopefully, there is some sort of explanation to this, otherwise I will be very annoyed.
I don't think it's Liz, maybe someone planted the key on her but also I think she bought herself an identical red jacket as to Eva because she was underprivileged and wanted something classy like her boss. I don't think Eva is dead and maybe she is an accomplice with Ingio. I am very intrigued and can't stop reading. I will rate it 5/5 till now.
okay so i was thinking that it was Liz up until Erin found the key where Liz was sitting. In my head, that threw a wrench in the works. i’m still sus of Liz but i’m not 100% it’s her, although there’s no one else i really suspect, unless we get a plot twist where it’s Erin, that could be dope haha.my favorite thing about reading thrillers is im so bad at predicting what happens next that 95% of the time, im surprised haha.
if i had to rate it right now, id say a solid 3, maybe 3.25. it’s not a bad book by any means, im just not fully vibing with it
i also still don’t believe eva is dead. she’s going to come back
Discussion 2 of 3.
Pages 125 - 250
Prior chapter ends with "zero"
Upcoming chapter begins with "ERIN"
Do you have any theories to share?
What do you hope happens in the final third?
If you had to rate this right now, what does it get?