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    ELY: This was a pretty dark book to read during troubled times
    
  
  
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				 Well it certainly wasn't happy, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't in some way hopeful. (view spoiler)
      Well it certainly wasn't happy, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't in some way hopeful. (view spoiler)
     Matthew wrote: "Not trying to make Tom feel bad or anything, but did anyone else just get a bit more depression from this story?"
      Matthew wrote: "Not trying to make Tom feel bad or anything, but did anyone else just get a bit more depression from this story?"I didn’t, but then I’m not exactly against an apocalypse to cleanse the world.
Plus, I’ve read so many apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic stories that one more doesn’t shock me. Books like A Canticle for Leibowitz posit that we are horribly flawed people (due to our original sin) and are thus doomed to cycles of self-destruction, each more horrible than the last. And that one is like the least of the unpleasant fates of humanity I’ve encountered in SF, so Elysium didn’t bother me in that regard.
 Seth wrote: "Well it certainly wasn't happy, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't in some way hopeful. [spoilers removed]"
      Seth wrote: "Well it certainly wasn't happy, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't in some way hopeful. [spoilers removed]"See, I didn't take that way from the novel. I found our narrator to be so unreliable, that we truly have no idea what actually happened. Not only did humanity lose our home and likely our lives, but the one monument that we built to our legacy was corrupted and therefore can't even tell our story.
For all we know, the last story with the ships leaving, could have been completely fake, the computer telling almost to itself that it happened simply to make itself feel better.
 Matthew wrote: "Seth wrote: "Well it certainly wasn't happy, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't in some way hopeful. [spoilers removed]"
      Matthew wrote: "Seth wrote: "Well it certainly wasn't happy, but that doesn't mean that it wasn't in some way hopeful. [spoilers removed]"See, I didn't take that way from the novel. I found our narrator to be so..."
Careful because quite a bit of what you're saying ventures into potential spoiler territory.
That said, (view spoiler)
 As far as Matthew’s take, (view spoiler). And yes, even though I appreciated this story, it did make me feel rather depressed during the reading.
      As far as Matthew’s take, (view spoiler). And yes, even though I appreciated this story, it did make me feel rather depressed during the reading.
    

 
The whole broader story arc of humanity clearly losing and either dying out or leaving earth entirely just sort of circles above the stories in this book. In many of the corrupted stories our two main characters didn't even have a happy ending.
Not trying to make Tom feel bad or anything, but did anyone else just get a bit more depression from this story?