What's the Name of That Book??? discussion

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► UNSOLVED: One specific book > MG/ YA SciFi. Computer AI (artificial intelligence) connects to boy in immersive computer game (avatar) & changes his life. Computer gets easier to use, then becomes his friend. AI can access money & hack Child Protection Services. Read early 2000s.

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message 1: by Ryan (last edited Aug 15, 2020 01:16AM) (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments I read this book probably between 15-20 years ago; it was probably published not long before I read it. I think it was a paperback.

In the book there is a boy (a teenager, if memory serves) who frequently uses a computer for homework, gaming, web browsing. He starts to notice the computer getting easier to use: forms fill themselves out, options that he wanted are preselected, etc. Eventually the AI that has been doing this reveals itself (or herself, she displays herself as a female avatar). They become friends.

The AI somehow has access to a lot of money (some kind of illegal hacking, maybe) and gets food delivered to the boy to get him to spend more time with her. When the boy's mother starts urging him to spend less time on his computer, the AI is able to hack into Child Protection Services and create false reports that lead to the mother getting taken away. I don't remember the aftermath.

Thank you.


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Rainbowheart | 28682 comments Is the boy a teenager or a younger child?


message 3: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments A teenager, I think. Probably in middle or high school, though I don't specifically remember him going to school.


message 4: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Still looking.


message 5: by Smiley (new)

Smiley C | 0 comments Sorry I don't know anything but this sounds like a good story! I'd like to read it too!
Is the genre sci-fi? When is it set?


message 6: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Yes, SF. Setting was either the present or the near future. The only differences from the present day were things like no smartphones (which became popular after this book was published) and the existence of a real self-aware AI.


message 7: by Kris (last edited Dec 18, 2020 07:00PM) (new)

Kris | 54955 comments Mod
What's the mood - e.g., funny, thriller, scary, adventure?

Is the boy a skilled hacker?

Does the story feature a specific computer game?

I added a few details to the header/topic title. You can update it by clicking the small "edit" link after the header. This only works on the full Desktop website - not the Mobile website or app. (On the Mobile website, click the "Desktop version" link at the bottom of the page.)


message 8: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments I can't recall the mood exactly, but I would guess it was more of an adventure than anything, with perhaps some thrill moments. I don't think the boy was a hacker. There was a computer game, yes, some sort of immersive Second Life type game IIRC.


message 9: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Still looking!


message 10: by Rainbowheart (new)

Rainbowheart | 28682 comments Might want to look through the Friendship Between Human(s) And Robot(s) thread.


message 11: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Thanks for the lead, but none of those were it.


message 12: by Kris (last edited Nov 17, 2021 02:02PM) (new)

Kris | 54955 comments Mod
Does the AI communicate with the boy using an avatar in the immersive computer game? What does he do in this game?

Does the boy have many friends? Does his time on the computer negatively impact his school work, friendships, etc.? Who and where is his father?

I added a few details to the header/ topic title. Feel free to edit it.


message 13: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Yes, the AI communicates through the avatar, just a pictoral representation of an innocent girl or young woman. I don't remember anything about the game.

I think there was a friend or friends that he kind of fell away from as he spent more time on the computer. His schoolwork also suffered. I don't remember a father; I suspect he was absent.

Do these kind of details often help people identify books? I think at this point I've provided enough details that people are likely to recognize it immediately or not at all.


message 14: by Kris (last edited Nov 18, 2021 07:22AM) (new)

Kris | 54955 comments Mod
Ryan wrote: "... Do these kind of details often help people identify books? ..."

Yes, we ask people to provide as many details about their book as possible. Most of the searches are based on book reviewers' and publishers' descriptions. Sometimes it's one keyword (often a concrete noun or adjective) which is critical to finding a book - and that keyword might not be obvious, but it's specific to the book.


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message 21: by Capn (new)

Capn | 3506 comments If it was published 1999 or earlier, it might have been caught on this (newly created) list:

Computers in 20th Century Juvenile Fiction
https://www.goodreads.com/list/show/1...


message 22: by David (last edited Feb 16, 2024 08:15PM) (new)

David Añez | 418 comments I don't think it is the same as one that I read long ago, but who knows.

Did the boy printed like all the interactions it had through the computer with the AI? The AI wasn't in this computer, it was somewhere else, and the kid (somehow) printed the data exchange through the modem.


message 23: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Thanks for the list! I checked, but it doesn't seem like any of those are it.

David, I'm not sure about your question. It could have been the case. I do remember some printing being involved, though I'm not sure if it was for data exchange/communication. What's the name of the book you read?


message 24: by David (new)

David Añez | 418 comments Don't remember it, but I have been thinking about it for a while and your post reminded me about it.

I have posted what I remember about my book here


message 25: by Becca (new)

Becca (beccalikesbooks) | 5545 comments A long-shot guess - A Very Personal Computer by Justine Rendal? It wasn't on the Computers in 20th Century Juvenile Fiction list that you checked, but I've just added it.


message 26: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments It's close! I looked it up and it does have similar themes as the one I'm looking for. But that wasn't it. Thanks for the suggestion.


message 27: by Capn (new)

Capn | 3506 comments Becca wrote: "A long-shot guess - A Very Personal Computer by Justine Rendal? It wasn't on the Computers in 20th Century Juvenile Fiction list that you checked, but I've just added it."

Bless you, Becca. :)


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Kris | 54955 comments Mod
Does anything in this Listopia sound familiar: Artificial Intelligence - A Trend in Young Adult Science Fiction?


message 30: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments Thanks for the link. At a glance it doesn't look promising; most of the entries are too recent. I'll check exhaustively later.


message 31: by Ryan (new)

Ryan Dash (ryandash) | 29 comments I checked all the books on the YA AI list, no dice.

I guess the book I'm looking for is one of those middle grade slash young adult books published in the early 2000's or earlier that is long out of print and wasn't popular even when it was in print, so nobody really knows about it now.


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