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I'm a little skeptical but go in. She's doing something so asks me to pull it up. I go to Paramount Plus, head to Lower Decks, and as I thought, the ep isn't out yet. She finishes what she's doing and I tell her. She asks me to check again. I show her Ep 3 will be out Thursday. She then wants me to prove that there will be two episodes Thursday. Well, there ain't, there's only going to be one.
That's right, my wife loves this show so much she convinced herself it would be out two days early, and that the "two eps at a time" schedule would continue. That show and SNW are really hitting well.

The combo of LD and SNW is the best Trek has ever been.
Edit: semi-related - I’m continuing my deep dive into Trek ships for my spaceship names list. I’ve got most of them except for the non-hero ships from novels and comics and boy-howdy are there gobs of ships in that franchise. I currently have about 1,300 names. Star Trek: Picard alone has 96 named ships, and that entire series is barely longer than a single season of TNG. If I’d known there’d be so many I’m not sure I would’ve started adding them.

Amazon actually removed season three in Sweden so I only have (legal) streaming access to seasons one and two at the moment with no word on where or when season four will show up.


I recently got a 60 day free trial of Apple TV so I could watch a baseball game. I don't plan on renewing, but I still have a few weeks left of the free trial. What movies or TV shows would you recommend on this streaming service that I should check out while I still have access?

For all mankind gets a lot of love around here. I think Silo was more mixed.
As I start going through the list, they really have filled out the number of offerings

I recently got a 60 day free trial of Apple TV so I could watch a baseball game. I don't plan on renewing, but I still have a few weeks lef..."
Definitely For All Mankind. The more you watch the more you’ll want to watch.
You’ll probably like Ted Lasso.
If you like musicals, Schmigadoon! and the sequel series Schmicago! are terrific. Similarly, the Christmas musical Spirited is great fun.
Tetris the movie is great. Highly recommended.
I enjoyed both Tom Hanks movies, the WWII Greyhound and the sci-fi Finch.
Definitely "For All Mankind"
Ted Lasso, Severance, Silo, Invasion, Slow Horses & Foundation are all worth watching.
Servant & See were good early then got annoying.
Ted Lasso, Severance, Silo, Invasion, Slow Horses & Foundation are all worth watching.
Servant & See were good early then got annoying.

I much preferred the "What If..." of the first season, rather than the increasingly distracting personal dynamics of the following seasons.

Blood Gnat
Death Dagger
Giant Killer

Death Dagger
Giant Killer"
What are these from?"
From the LA Times Syndicate Star Trek newspaper strip, "The Wristwatch Plantation" 3/1/1982-7/17/1982 by Larry Niven and Sharman DiVono
They are the three Kzinti ships that tangled with Kirk and the Enterprise.

They are the three Kzinti ships that tangled with Kirk and the Enterprise."
Awesome! On to the list they go!
I added the video games ST: Armada and ST: Shattered Universe last night. Mirror Universe Terran Empire ship names are always hilariously on the nose: Carnage, Malicious, Punisher, Malevolent. 😈

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I recently got a 60 day free trial of Apple TV..."
Thanks John, Trike, Dave, Jennifer and Steve for your help. Sounds like everyone loves Ted Lasso so I think that should be at the top of my list.
I had forgotten about the Tom Hanks films and Spirited. I'll have to give those a look.
These will also go on the list:
- For All Mankind
- Tetris (?) - although I'm not big on video game films, I'm trusting you here Trike
- Silo - I thought the book was just OK but I do think the idea could make a good series
- Severance
- Invasion
- Schmigadoon? Really? Okay...
Slow Horses and Foundation will probably have to wait until I get around to reading the source material, but I'm glad to hear good things about them.

OK, I looked up the trailer. Anything with Martin Short is worth a look. Also, the line: "We're smart; we found our way out of Ikea."

OK, I looked up the trailer. Anything with Martin Short is worth a look. Also, the line: "We're smart; we found our way out of Ikea.""
I’m a fan of musicals anyway, and when they’re expertly parodied as in Schmigadoon it adds to the fun.

So it definitely gets my endorsement.


Yeah, I didn’t like that show, either. I made it through a couple episodes then bailed.

RJ - Slayer of Trolls wrote: "Slow Horses and Foundation will probably have to wait until I get around to reading the source material"
Foundation is more a story in the Foundation universe. It doesn't really require more than a passing knowledge of the source material.
It doesn't stick very close to any single book(s) of that series. just the overarching themes.
Foundation is more a story in the Foundation universe. It doesn't really require more than a passing knowledge of the source material.
It doesn't stick very close to any single book(s) of that series. just the overarching themes.

Invasion is really good in S2.
I liked S1 as well, but it got criticism in S1 for having very few aliens.
That has been addressed in S2. Lot of aliens and they are evolving into a more aggressive species. Fun times ahead.
I liked S1 as well, but it got criticism in S1 for having very few aliens.
That has been addressed in S2. Lot of aliens and they are evolving into a more aggressive species. Fun times ahead.

I liked S1 as well, but it got criticism in S1 for having very few aliens.
That has been addressed in S2. Lot of aliens and they are evolving into a more aggressiv..."
I am enjoying this as well. Things are going to get ugly for sure !

For All Mankind has devolved into soap opera where everything happens to the same 5 people (despite apparently involving huge multi-national projects spanning multiple decades), and always with suspiciously synchronized timing - and wtf is the storyline about the (view spoiler) ?!
Foundation is so far from the original source material that it is basically an entirely different story. Just taking one small but fundamental difference as an example, in the original the Vault is just a theatre; in the series it is apparently (view spoiler) . And you have Hari Seldon (view spoiler) , which feels almost sacrilegious. Foundation feels like it was written by someone who had heard the main plot points of the original book and then wrote their own version.
Sorry, feeling a bit grumpy about it all...
Jennifer wrote: "Tassie Dave wrote: "Invasion is really good in S2.
I liked S1 as well, but it got criticism in S1 for having very few aliens.
That has been addressed in S2. Lot of aliens and they are evolving i..."
I think this would be a great series to binge.
The only gripe I have with the series is that with 4 different storylines that are being followed we can go weeks without seeing certain characters.
The most recent episode was rare in that we only had a single storyline. We usually swap between 2 of the storylines.
I hope we catch up with the other 3 this week
A binge watch would take away that wait to see what happens.
I liked S1 as well, but it got criticism in S1 for having very few aliens.
That has been addressed in S2. Lot of aliens and they are evolving i..."
I think this would be a great series to binge.
The only gripe I have with the series is that with 4 different storylines that are being followed we can go weeks without seeing certain characters.
The most recent episode was rare in that we only had a single storyline. We usually swap between 2 of the storylines.
I hope we catch up with the other 3 this week
A binge watch would take away that wait to see what happens.

I liked S1 as well, but it got criticism in S1 for having very few aliens.
That has been addressed in S2. Lot of aliens and th..."
I agree this would be best binged and I agree about the story lines. But I will check back in next week . Got to see what happens now. I am committed.
I keep meaning to watch Silo.

Well, those plans may be delayed. I know I saw Top Gun decades back. Not sure if it was theaters or video, but I enjoyed it okay. This time I found it dull as dishwater. Obvious plot points, happening right on time. Zzzzzz. A few decent points made about leadership and fellowship, but too little story along the way. Plus, Tom Cruise super-grinning the entire movie really turned me off.
I suppose I'll get around to seeing Maverick before the rewatch fades. But I'm in no hurry.

Trailer: https://youtu.be/Iu03KHs4_EE?si=n9xmP...

Can’t disagree with your points, but for me it has that comforting nostalgia feel that allows me to enjoy it. Watched it dozens of times as a kid in the 80’s. Last watch was probably about 5 years ago. I do remember realizing about 15 years ago that you really could see the “bones” of the movie. The breaks for the 3 act structure are very hard breaks, and extremely obvious.
I will say that I think Maverick is probably a better movie overall, but the things that turned you off of the original are still present in it. Well, I think Tom is a bit more brooding, and so doesn’t smile quite as much. Bout the rest is still there.

I may have to check out both. I was getting Christopher Moore vibes from the descriptions.



If you like Invasion, then definitely check out Falling Skies. It stars Noah Wyle, Moon Bloodgood, and Will Patton, with a who’s-who of SFF character actors like Doug Jones, Peter Shinkoda and Matt Frewer. https://youtu.be/JIx8EvxqPug?si=UKm-F...

Also watched the short film by Wes Anderson on Netflix, The Wonderful Story of Henry Sugar, and it is absolutely terrific. At just 39 minutes it is the perfect distillation of Anderson’s quirky style. Highly recommended. https://youtu.be/4RdncisZ_QA?si=EDMSN...

Also still following the Wheel of Time. I think the series has finally grown on me.

Anyhoo, silly fun abounds. A Nobel-Prize-winning scientist tries to feed the world with a protein-rich fungus. He's kinda like a younger, human version of the Doctor. So of course Jo Grant falls in love and runs off with him. My wife pointed out how much the end here matches Tennant's run and his Doctor's conclusion with Rose.
A poignant ending. The Doctor slips out as the group celebrates the engagement. As they toast, he quietly goes out the door, with only Jo giving him a sad glance. For all that Jo Grant was the overacting loud equivalent of Susan, her character had a good run. The Doctor is once again alone, a demigod among humans, knowing that it always must end.

This flick was pretty much Luke MavWalker doing the Death Star run with a side of escape from Hoth. And the "where you're supposed to be" bit straight out of Star Trek IV where Kirk is made permanently Captain. For all that it was completely derivative it was well done.
EDIT: Oh, and how could I forget? Han(g) SoloMan to the rescue in a way that belies his "self interested" persona.

I did continually find it humorous how they kept trying to make these dinky little Renaults, Peugeots and Fiats seem badass. They just don’t have any oomph, y’know? I feel like an F-150 or even a Nissan Sentra could squish them all. XD


The wait is finally over! The new season of Slow Horses has been announced, coming to Apple TV+ on 1st December 2023.
Season 3 will be based on the third novel in the Slough House series, Real Tigers, and follows the slow horses as they navigate a criminal conspiracy within MI5.

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There were so many nostalgia-bait moments which had no purpose other than to remind the audience of the high points of the DC movies that it’s difficult to enumerate them all. And they’re all there simply for the nostalgia kick as they never do anything with them.
Tonally it’s all over the place, and part of that must be due to the edit. It feels like there are important scenes left out, which is weird because it’s a 2-1/2 hour movie. I have to assume the original cut is near 3 hours. It certainly *feels* like a 3-hour movie.
On the positive side I will say that the heart of the movie is really compelling. If they had cut everything else out and just focused on Barry’s attempt to undo his mom’s murder, it would’ve been a terrific film. All the Batman/Supergirl stuff just gets in the way. It still would’ve been a hard sell because the Flash TV series already did this story recently, and they had the room to explore the nuances of meddling with the timestream.
Another positive thing is that I did watch it all the way through. Something I can’t say about Black Adam, which was so dull that I fell asleep somewhere around the halfway mark and have never felt compelled to finish it.
But yeah, The Flash is pretty cynical corporate product and should’ve been either an hour shorter or 45 minutes longer.