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message 1: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments Just a random thought but is there ever infidelity in PNR? Certainly there is the triangle thing and misunderstanding's but can anyone think of a story about a case of infidelity between the main characters - similar to what is in contemporary romance?


message 2: by Alisa (new)

Alisa I can't think of any examples except for Rhage in BDB. It's been years since I read it but isn't he with another woman at one point? Other than that I don't remember ever seeing it in pnr.


Lanie (Lanies Book Thoughts) (lanieadamsk) | 28 comments Z cheated on Bella as well in BDB.


message 4: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments Not a fan of the BDB so I cannot comment there. I just think it is so interesting that it plays a role in other romance books just not PNR.


Nichole ~Bookaholic~ (nicholebookaholic) | 672 comments Alisa wrote: "I can't think of any examples except for Rhage in BDB. It's been years since I read it but isn't he with another woman at one point? Other than that I don't remember ever seeing it in pnr."

I don't recall that he cheated just that he went to one of the priestesses to feed but she thought he was with her.....or something along those lines


message 6: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) Dawn wrote: "Not a fan of the BDB so I cannot comment there. I just think it is so interesting that it plays a role in other romance books just not PNR."

There is so much of the fated mate trope going on in PNR and I think that cheating would kind of go against that so authors avoid it.

Personally, I don't read books with cheating and if there is even a hint of it going on, the book ends up on the DNF pile.


message 7: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments Lauren wrote: "...There is so much of the fated mate trope going on in PNR and I think that cheating would kind of go against that so authors avoid it.

Personally, I don't read books with cheating and if there is even a hint of it going on, the book ends up on the DNF pile. "


The fated plot ...good point ...
Sometimes we will see a side character who has had to mate for political reasons or they just gave up on finding their true mate. But this is never the main character who meets their true mate with a different mate and they have to figure out what to do. Stick to their promise or follow their heart.

Not sure I have ever read a book with cheating...I am not a contemporary romance fan but I have seen them in the blurbs...just found it interesting it seems to be noticeably absent in PNR and Fantasy now that I think about it.


message 8: by Sandra, Need more time to Read!! (new)

Sandra | 4734 comments Maybe there is too much adventure happening in fantasy that the author doesn't need to manufacture conflict, so leaves out infidelity.


message 9: by LastBreath (new)

LastBreath (last_breath) | 242 comments Gaw this is killing me!

I've read a book where a recently Mated Alpha openly committed infidelity while he forced his mate to listen from an adjoining room. His intention was dominance & a need to assuage his delicate male ego. Needless to say she tore each & every female that came out.

He did it because their Union was an agreed upon political arrangement & he wanted his female childhood friend, who had moved on and found her HEA.

But when his mate is almost killed he realises they are truly fated and begs her forgiveness. Being the consummate idiot, she accepts him back and they play happy families with a HEA.

Yea was so not a fan of this story. I think I ended up deleting this one.


message 10: by Sandra J (new)

Sandra J Weaver (sandraweaver) | 147 comments It wouldn't fly with me either. I'm afraid I'm of the opinion that once a cheater, always a cheater. Besides it sounds like he was intent on punishing his mate for being his mate. Nasty. Abusive tendencies, too. The heroine had to be TSTL to accept that crap.


message 11: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments LastBreath wrote: "Gaw this is killing me!

I've read a book where a recently Mated Alpha openly committed infidelity while he forced his mate to listen from an adjoining room. His intention was dominance & a need to..."


That does not sound like something I would want to read.


Nichole ~Bookaholic~ (nicholebookaholic) | 672 comments LastBreath wrote: "Gaw this is killing me!

I've read a book where a recently Mated Alpha openly committed infidelity while he forced his mate to listen from an adjoining room. His intention was dominance & a need to..."


Do you remember the book title....want to add it to my "stay far away from" shelf....


message 13: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments Sandra wrote: "Maybe there is too much adventure happening in fantasy that the author doesn't need to manufacture conflict, so leaves out infidelity."

Perhaps...in classic stories like The End of The Affair or in Anna Karenina it seems to dominate the story


message 14: by Sandra, Need more time to Read!! (new)

Sandra | 4734 comments Hmm, I wouldn't call those Fantasy though.

And I totally agree LastBreath, Sandra J, Dawn & Nichole - that sounds like a horrible book and I certainly don't want to read it either.

LastBreath can you remember what it was called or who wrote it - so we can all stay away from it.


message 15: by LastBreath (new)

LastBreath (last_breath) | 242 comments I had also warned another friend away from it. But he's a curious person so he tried it. Like many of us here he was pretty irate with it - and that's saying it mildly.

I've been raking my brain over this one and it's frustrating the jellies out of me because all I can see is the female - a Mediterranean shifter - and the love interest of another character.

I vow to keep putting keywords into Google until I find it.


message 16: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments Sandra wrote: "Hmm, I wouldn't call those Fantasy though.
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Totally right I was just thinking of books with infidelity issues that I enjoyed.


message 17: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (last edited Jan 14, 2015 10:15PM) (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments LastBreath wrote: " ...I vow to keep putting keywords into Google until I find it. "

Lols that is the worst feeling trying to recall the title of the book and google does no justice!


message 18: by Sandra, Need more time to Read!! (new)

Sandra | 4734 comments Dawn wrote: "Sandra wrote: "Hmm, I wouldn't call those Fantasy though.
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Totally right I was just thinking of books with infidelity issues that I enjoyed."



No worries :)


message 19: by Sandra, Need more time to Read!! (new)

Sandra | 4734 comments Dawn wrote: "LastBreath wrote: " ...I vow to keep putting keywords into Google until I find it. "

Lols that is the worst feeling trying to recall the title of the book and google does no justice!"



LastBreath, what about your friend? He might remember.


message 20: by LastBreath (new)

LastBreath (last_breath) | 242 comments He's the same as me Sandra. But the only thing he can remember is a disturbing non consent scene and the car the lead male drove.


message 21: by Andrea (new)

Andrea Jackson (paperbackdiva) LastBreath wrote: "I had also warned another friend away from it. But he's a curious person so he tried it. Like many of us here he was pretty irate with it - and that's saying it mildly.
I've been raking my brain ..."


There's a group called What's the Name of That Book which is exactly for this purpose. Try that and give us the warning. I hate cheating in a romance too. It makes me despise the character doing it which will get the book thrown across the room.

Dawn, what romance genre do you find these plots in? To me, that plot puts it outside the romance label.


message 22: by Lauren (new)

Lauren (laurenjberman) LastBreath wrote: "He's the same as me Sandra. But the only thing he can remember is a disturbing non consent scene and the car the lead male drove."

Sounds like the book was so bad your brain is refusing to access the title, lol!


message 23: by Sandra, Need more time to Read!! (new)

Sandra | 4734 comments LOL


message 24: by Dawn, Desperately seeking new worlds (new)

Dawn (dawnv) | 4058 comments Andrea wrote: "...Dawn, what romance genre do you find these plots in? To me, that plot puts it outside the romance label. "

I am so busted lol not a big romance fan but here is what happened... I was in my local bookstore browsing and there was a book with a cool cover - sorry don't know the name - but on the back there was a blurb about a woman who was trying to get over the hurt of her husbands cheating and should she stay or go kind of thing. No idea if there was more to the story or not because I rolled my eyes like ugg who wants to read that. However it got me thinking, hence my question.

Oh wait I think one of Molly Harper's books tackles infidelity...wonder which one it was.


Nichole ~Bookaholic~ (nicholebookaholic) | 672 comments Dawn wrote: "Andrea wrote: "...Dawn, what romance genre do you find these plots in? To me, that plot puts it outside the romance label. "

I am so busted lol not a big romance fan but here is what happened... I..."


And One Last Thing ... by Molly Harper although I have to say her revenge was AWESOME


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